Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 6:50 am
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Oversoul
Le't do this.
VOTE: Oversoul
Le't do this.
VOTE: OversoulIn post 2375, Kublai Khan wrote:Le't do this.
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VOTE: OversoulIn post 2375, Kublai Khan wrote:Le't do this.
In post 2325, mastin2 wrote:mastin2, the mod, is sick.
Actually, that was yesterday.In post 2368, Slandaar wrote: Thors day is today
When you said that you saw something that made Nacho town unless it was multiball, I was expecting something more substantial, not "Nacho has a similar scumread as me.". That's just weak.In post 2368, Slandaar wrote: Nothing anyone else will be able to use for their benefit; the way he views Mac/thez is exactly how I have. And yes that makes him town unless its multiball.
The thing with Desperado: I normally want to think the best of players, so when I see someone do something like he did, it's better to think scum than town who refuses to listen, discuss, or learn. I don't get that mindset coming from a town player. It bewilders me. However, Desperado has just started doing something which he has staunchly refused to do when defending himself: scumhunt.In post 2350, Desperado wrote:Bulb, you aren't trying to teach me anything, that's the problem. You've never approached this situation from the perspective of "I'm town, Desp might be town, let me teach him why he's wrong and I'm right." You started with the premise that I had scumslipped and attacked me, repeatedly. So if your intent was to show me the error of my ways, you failed...if it was to provoke a reaction from me that you could use to paint me as scummy, then you succeeded.
And the best part is, let's say you had approached it that way...I don't have to agree with you! You are not the arbiter of what things mean. The site meta regarding what it means when someone says confirmation bias vs. scummily tunneling someone is irrelevant when we are only considering this individual case, in which I was 100% transparent by what I meant when I said Nacho was resorting to confirmation bias, and was not unwittingly admitting that I knew he was town.
I am allowed to believe that scum can use confirmation bias (a logical fallacy, which I'm sure you're aware, and thus not a valuable scumhunting tool for a town player that hopes to actually lynch scum) in the process of securing the MLs necessary for them to win. The notion that only town players are capable of exhibiting confirmation biasbaffles me.
With that said, you are allowed to (wrongly) lynch me for thinking that because of whatever experience you have that says that I slipped. When I flip town maybe you'll recalibrate your tells.
Nothing to say about one of your major suspects starting and coalescing a wagon on one of your other major suspects?
It's a two way street man. The only disposition I ever got from your posts was hostility and authority...you're right, and I'm so wrong that the only logical conclusion is that I scumslipped. Despite my best efforts to explain my position (which is what this is...a disagreement, not a school lesson), you continued to talk down to me, which, as I've said, is just about the least effective way to teach anyone anything.In post 2381, Bulbazak wrote:The thing with Desperado: I normally want to think the best of players, so when I see someone do something like he did, it's better to think scum than town who refuses to listen, discuss, or learn. I don't get that mindset coming from a town player. It bewilders me. However, Desperado has just started doing something which he has staunchly refused to do when defending himself: scumhunt.
Link?In post 2381, Bulbazak wrote:Given the recent posts, that was the one thing I needed to see to even consider him remotely being town. I'll have to reread him later, but I'm starting to fear that this will be Metal Overlord all over again...
I'm happy to see a wagon going on one of my half dozen scum reads. I frankly don't give a damn who started it.In post 2382, Desperado wrote:Nothing to say about one of your major suspects starting and coalescing a wagon on one of your other major suspects?
Seems like something a townie would point out as he hopped from one to the other.
Guess I have some research to do.In post 2384, Syryana wrote:Oh, and Bulb can't link it; it's an ongoing. At least if it's the game I'm thinking of.
It was strange that they'd argue for the same points, but then slightly disagree when asked. Cephrir, however, did offer some original insights in the discussion, and explained somethings better than I could. Thez really didn't offer anything new to the table. The only reason I'm not more suspicious is because he was doing other things at the time. I probably need to remind myself who he replaced...In post 2382, Desperado wrote:What do you think of the thez/Ceph echo chamber?
Soon.In post 2382, Desperado wrote:Link?In post 2381, Bulbazak wrote:Given the recent posts, that was the one thing I needed to see to even consider him remotely being town. I'll have to reread him later, but I'm starting to fear that this will be Metal Overlord all over again...
He was answering a question I had just asked him.In post 2388, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:yeah no talking about ongoing games I mean that rule is pretty clear
Said I had interest in the read, and the fuzzy/Haylen lynch will get me nowhere, so I will oblige.In post 1831, thezmon221 wrote:If I didn't want a fuzzy lynch as badly as I do, I'd totally be game for this lynch. I think fuzzy's the way to go, though, and everyone should vote for him.
I replaced Mac, who did hardly anything. As for Cephrir, I really can't help that Despo seemingly argued just because he wanted to argue with someone. He argued with you, Bulb, and then with Cephrir, and then me. All on the same general topic, but each person had a slightly different stance and argument. I can't help that he's also close minded in such an affair.Bulbazak wrote:It was strange that they'd argue for the same points, but then slightly disagree when asked. Cephrir, however, did offer some original insights in the discussion, and explained somethings better than I could. Thez really didn't offer anything new to the table. The only reason I'm not more suspicious is because he was doing other things at the time. I probably need to remind myself who he replaced...In post 2382, Desperado wrote:What do you think of the thez/Ceph echo chamber?
You replaced Mac? I think I remember having a weak townread on him. I'll reread later.In post 2390, thezmon221 wrote:I replaced Mac, who did hardly anything. As for Cephrir, I really can't help that Despo seemingly argued just because he wanted to argue with someone. He argued with you, Bulb, and then with Cephrir, and then me. All on the same general topic, but each person had a slightly different stance and argument. I can't help that he's also close minded in such an affair.Bulbazak wrote:It was strange that they'd argue for the same points, but then slightly disagree when asked. Cephrir, however, did offer some original insights in the discussion, and explained somethings better than I could. Thez really didn't offer anything new to the table. The only reason I'm not more suspicious is because he was doing other things at the time. I probably need to remind myself who he replaced...In post 2382, Desperado wrote:What do you think of the thez/Ceph echo chamber?
What if it was a scumhammer?In post 2394, Haylen wrote:What if we hit scum?