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Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:32 am
by Regfan
If I'm right and blue don't have a kill Klazams daykill makes some sense as their replacement.
MME, is there a way to phrase your question to ask if scum have the ability to kill someone during the day?
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:34 am
by My Milked Eek
Would the kill be attributed to his role or to his faction?
We know there's one non-factional kill role in this game, that's klaz. I don't think I could specify that as town or scum.
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:35 am
by Regfan
Think the kill would be role-based and not faction based.
Trying to think if there's a question that can confirm my theory that blue don't have a kill.
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:37 am
by Regfan
Also thinking back, Gaiden-zMuffin interaction is probably not the same scum-team so removing Gaidens vote was probably a mistake.
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:43 am
by Regfan
Heading to bed now, will do a big interaction reread tomorrow, hopefully something clicks then.
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:46 am
by My Milked Eek
At this stage it's klaz or tso.
I'll reread a bit.
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 6:05 am
by Regfan
Trying to sleep but just thought of something that makes it super likely to be klazam, will explain it in detail tomorrow but has to do with sts pregame usage claim
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 6:07 am
by My Milked Eek
It wouldn't be that obvious?
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 6:10 am
by Regfan
I think st might have slipped with it - f16 outted it was used on klazam because he shot scum which is an understand able usage if post shot, st probsbly didn't know what to do with explaining the real useage and thus just said the truthful pregame one.
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 6:11 am
by Regfan
Would explain both f16s and sts actions and hesitance when claimg / putting that info really well.
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 6:24 am
by Regfan
Few other things that point to klazam scum;
- lack of reaction to who's post hammer stuff
- his large fencesittty while slightly leaning me thing during me v f16
- his 'sorry regfan ur town for sure' reaxtion to f16s slots 'slip' and flip changing to 'don't buy how you're not partners with him' yesterday looking like him needing blue scum options open now.
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 6:50 am
by My Milked Eek
I propose klaz claims and then a massclaim (of those who hadn't claimed yet). Afterwards, we'll look into using my ability to the fullest.
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:00 am
by Feirei
Assuming Who is telling the truth, klazam is the last scum.
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:22 am
by My Milked Eek
↑ Regfan wrote:Also thinking back, Gaiden-zMuffin interaction is probably not the same scum-team so removing Gaidens vote was probably a mistake.
I'd like to add that the role interactions who and gaiden had would also indicate that gaiden isn't scum. Can't see blue scum messing about with a red/naive cop in the way he did.
For me it's between klaz and tso.
Both have had role interactions with f16/muffin/constantine that are dubious: klaz being protected pregame and tso being rb'd/forgetting to switch post N1.
From a pure setup spec pov, tso's role is more townsided than klaz' and I'd like him to claim his full role and not the tidbits he claimed in this thread and through messages.
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:24 am
by My Milked Eek
As for klaz, I need to double check whether he claimed to have taken the bus item _before_ or _after_ me telling him I could see which item he took. (not when, but which)
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:53 am
by Klazam
I took it bfore, also, i busdrove sm and tso thinking tso was most likely scum.
I didnt post anything posthammer be ause i was busy and i didnt disagree witht he hammer at all.
Good catch about the hermit slip. If blue doesnt have a nightkill, it means i can finally full claim. (Next post, gonna have to dig in all my pms for that lol, bp 1shot dayvig, basically.) I took bus drive planning to switch sm and me, but the mod said no bcause of rule 10. I also pesudoclaimed to mme/gaiden. Tso has to be scum here.
vote:tso
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:00 am
by Klazam
Nikanor wrote:Hello Klazam, and welcome to Mini 1605! Today you will be playing the part of a man who, despite what his given name might suggest, is unfortunately not a bear. You've recently found an ancient bowl that you suspect is quite dangerous; indeed, it says right on there that its function is to wipe the world clean. But surely it can't be that bad, I mean, it was just sitting in a block of ice. Perhaps now would be a good time to test it.
You are
. For the purposes of this game, you've decided to limit yourself to being a
Post-Shot Bulletproof One-Shot Anytime Vigilante
.
Active Abilities
-The Super Bowl (1, Anytime):
You have in your possession the Golgothian Sylex. You may use it to kill a player. Doing so will activate your passive ability. You may only use this action once. This action resolves in the day, twilight or night phases.
Passive Abilities
-Talking Head (Inactive):
Using the Sylex has made you incredibly hard to kill. You are now immune to kills. You can still be lynched.
Factional Abilities
You win when your team is the only team remaining.
Also, another point in tso-scum's favor- he knew that who was lying hence him tryint to keep who alive.
Doesnt matter anyway, if blue actually doesnt have a kill/cant get a kill, this game is unloseable.
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:01 am
by Klazam
Mme, tso fullclaimed earlier when you asked for it, or did you forget?
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:40 am
by T S O
vote: klazam
vote: klazam
oh just die
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:41 am
by Feirei
it doesnt matter which fucking order the two die.
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:52 am
by Riddleton
It's Klazam, yes. Blue scum not having any NKs is balanced out by the 1X dayvig
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:52 am
by Riddleton
Or alternatively, it's 3 vs 2 and it's like Jungel Republic
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:53 am
by Riddleton
Nah, not likely. Definitely Klazam IMO
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:29 am
by My Milked Eek
wait until gaiden tells us about his night action
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:00 pm
by My Milked Eek
↑ Klazam wrote:Mme, tso fullclaimed earlier when you asked for it, or did you forget?
I'm not asking about his claim. More like regfan's. And not sure if gaiden claimed his role pm yet.