In post 2362, Galron wrote:I don't remember if that was mod confirmed, but that could be it. It would've helped if Zefiend saidhe jailed N1
Jailkept players cannot be acted upon.
That's standard mechanics.
What I'm saying is that zefiend should have told us who he blocked N1. I just found it -- he jailed because he TR Taly the most N1. So If a roleblocker blocked Cheeky, she wouldn't have been able to use her hider, and then the maf shooter would've been able to shoot her. But I think you're saying that because Taly was Jailed, Cheeky's hider was unable to be used, so she was the direct kill.
That's what Occam's Razor leads me to.
Occam's led me to the other thing, but okay then.
Lol.
Occam's Razor seriously led you to believe that scum was so worried about Cheeky that they both blocked & NK'ed her?
Yeah, nah.
Cheeky getting blocked by a jailkept target and scum shooting is far simpler than scum rallying all that power against her on n-fucking-1.
In post 2362, Galron wrote:I don't remember if that was mod confirmed, but that could be it. It would've helped if Zefiend saidhe jailed N1
Jailkept players cannot be acted upon.
That's standard mechanics.
What I'm saying is that zefiend should have told us who he blocked N1. I just found it -- he jailed because he TR Taly the most N1. So If a roleblocker blocked Cheeky, she wouldn't have been able to use her hider, and then the maf shooter would've been able to shoot her. But I think you're saying that because Taly was Jailed, Cheeky's hider was unable to be used, so she was the direct kill.
That's what Occam's Razor leads me to.
Occam's led me to the other thing, but okay then.
You're right. I'm loopy right now.
Good night.
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:42 pm
by Galron
I'm about done with this mech talk. I don't think it's leading anywhere. But
The weird thing is that in his post 1588 where he claims, he says he jailed Scorpious not because he thought Scrop may be a shooter but because Scorp was a claimed PR, and Zefiend thought he was a possible target despite listing all the bad stuff Scorp had done. I think zefiend deserves an emmy for this because I don't think he believed that Scorp was town at all, and Zefiend was setting himself up to last a bit longer.
Spoiler:
In post 1586, ɀefiend wrote:I jailed Scorpious. Isn't there a discrepancy between what Scorpious claimed to submit and what he claimed?
In post 60, Scorpious wrote:Man, I am so lame. Everyone asked for all these exotic roles and I’m here, like yeah! Role blocker!!
In post 1505, Enchant wrote:7+ days passed and no one decapitated, wtf stale game.
VOTE: Scorpious
I agree, watching house feed his ego is getting old.
I’m a 1-shot Neapolitan and I was blocked last night looking at Zefiend..
I jailed him on the off-chance that he was somehow telling the truth, and is another town PR, because I figured that scum might be inclined to shoot claimed PRs. However, they might be afraid of myself being protected.
So is it more likely that there is a discrepancy in Scorpious' claims and was the NK target last night,
or is it more likely that Scorpious was chosen to perform the NK?
Given how bad most of Scorpious' votes have been all game, then IF he is scum, I would think that the scum team would judge him to be on shakiest ground, and therefore least risk in performing the NK.
Meg vote --> bad
Cheeky vote --> bad
Another Meg vote --> bad again
Enchant vote --> lazy but fine
Dwlee vote --> I don't understand it, maybe fine
zefiend vote --> bad
flea vote --> bad
In my opinion Scorpious is not a prime NK target, since if he were actually telling the truth, his powers are used up and now from scum's perspective he would just be a Named VT. I think even if you toss out Taly and I from NK pool because scum is scared of protection, there are better targets than Scorpious.
So I am inclined to believe Scorpious was sent to perform the kill and would be willing to vote there.
Taly
, I find it discouraging that you feel a lack of teamwork. I am here and can work with you. If you can help me flesh out some town-reads that would be great because right now nobody else is screaming town to me.
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:43 pm
by Galron
G'nite
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:48 pm
by Galron
In post 105, Yume wrote:Submitted roles: Roleblocker, Role Cop, Neighbour
Town preference.
Yume/Dwlee
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:57 pm
by Enchant
Oh. I see.
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:00 am
by Enchant
As told before, mafia blocking and killing same person first night is meeh...
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:55 am
by Galron
Cheeky Day 1 moves her vote around (I need to do more of that actually). From House to Scorpious to Galron and finally to Meg. In between you can see her solving; In 221 she has a POE of {Galron, mastina,
Taly
,
Greeting
,
zefiiend
and
Scorpious
} She bumps zefiend out to a TR not long after that.
Then way at the end she makes a bit a hero solve I guess {
Scorpious
, House,
Greeting
} that she admits is weak.
But before jumping on House, there's this from Scorpious, which may spew House town, the last sentence in particular.
Spoiler:
In post 757, Scorpious wrote:I was fine with what house had said about not sweating the small stuff until this. Cheeky keeps defaulting to me, and I still have no idea why. Like I have ZERO to go off of,except a 3 sentence case that made no sense.
So far these 2 have been the only ones to really push me, I guess meg, but that's so weak that's not even worth worrying about.
Plus the extra comments like "He's not going to respond to pressure anyway..." What is that?
Why are you constantly Goading me?
How can someone that says they intentionally ignored a question audacious enough to want to wagon someone else when they have not given any semblance of reasoning to why?
I think House and Cheeky are connected.
VOTE: Cheeky
I was hoping to find some dis-associatives in Cheeky's ISO, but really she made several good pushes on Scorpious, House and mastina. So if I'm reading Cheeky's mind, she's going after House, Galron or mastina today. Likely not mastina because of the mason claim. So probably House and me, and maybe not even me.
I want to do a couple more of thsese.
*Cheeky flipped hider
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:57 am
by Galron
In post 2390, Enchant wrote:As told before, mafia blocking and killing same person first night is meeh...
Yeah, and I didn't see anything in Cheeky's ISO that would look blockable unless they caught her crumbs w/ Taly at the end.
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:05 am
by Galron
In post 754, CheekyTeeky wrote:Maybe I was wrong on greeting idk. Anyone who does meta would receive my adoration for the rest of the game if they could look into them.
{Scorpious, House, Greeting} seems warmer.
In post 755, CheekyTeeky wrote:Does house unvote a potential mislim though? Like I can see what enchant is saying with the claim fishing but as scum do you give up the non-buddy flip for a potential PR lim? Something something bird in the hand.
In post 2390, Enchant wrote:As told before, mafia blocking and killing same person first night is meeh...
Yeah, and I didn't see anything in Cheeky's ISO that would look blockable unless they caught her crumbs w/ Taly at the end.
Enchant's post somehow bugs me here, even though I kinda give in to his invitation to brush it off. It's like I'm being told "Yeah well you know that's how it goes," and I play right into it.
It seems there's a fairly even split over whether enchant is town right?
And if someone goes out of their way to make a response to you, who brought the subject up, then there's a thing that exists. So here, Enchant is making something he says is not a thing, a thing.
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:07 pm
by Galron
I got there by reading Scorpious's ISO, and there really wasn't much there. Just interactions with the now-dead, House and Enchant. The spats with House I think would meet the criteria, whatever you define that as, of not S/S. So seeing as Scorp flipped red, House almost has to be town. As far as Enchant, there weren't any arguments I don't think, and it was all perfunctory, no solving. So in looking at Scorp's ISO, I'd +town House and +scum enchant.
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:09 pm
by Enchant
So you think mafia roleblocked and killed same target, because i say it's unlikely?
