Mastin, I get some of your points here, but others are just ridiculous.In post 2397, mastin2 wrote:Again, major gripe of the setup. Nobody.
NOBODY.
Is going to consider a hider claim to come from scum.
Hider is NOT a ggodlike scum claim. you are going to be accountable for clears, you are going to be questioned every day you live.
Having a Hider role as scum does NOT make it statistically THAT much mire like to be a safe claim in a mini normal. I mean my god, your rant sounds like we should all just claim Hider D1 as mafia and just coast to endgame around the claim. CDB fake claimed hider in a mini normal and got lynched on D2 in a game I was in for being scummy.
Your points about the hider role being investigation immune are correct, which is why this setup EXPLICITLY HAD NO COPS OR TRACKERS OR WATCHERS OR GUNSMITHS IN IT. All the town power could neither confirm nor deny the claim so the fact that its immune to things is irrelevant. AND it can also be caught by an investigative PR investigating the TARGET of the hider since they should get a result on BOTH players in that case.
The hider role's use was purely to try and dodge SKs here but had the side effect of being able to suicide on one if misused. The claim itself is manageable from ANY mafia role, the hider being in the game is a fairly minor factor on whether or not its SAFE. And it was ODD NIGHT on top of that, meaning hed have to either open himself to investigations on even nights OR lie about his role anyways which could come back to bite it.
I'll agree the game was a little scum-sided (I think 1:3:9 is in general) but I think town had enough going for it to be not too much so. The RB getting lynched on D1 was pretty irrevocably bad for the town here.