In post 246, insomnia wrote:Glitch - what makes 159 and 160 anti-town and why is that wolfy as opposed to not just...anti-town??
I don't see the difference. Your lazy attitude toward game mechanics is very off when we're playing a game where the best hunting to be done is through game mechanics. Sheeping. Lazy. Not interested in doing the work of a townie. That's scum indicative to me.
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:11 am
by Tayl0r Swift
In post 249, Almost50 wrote:@T-Swift: Please don't make me second guess my TR on you. bard claim + No CC + morning announcement = Elements is confirmed Bard.
im not after elements as scum. im after elements for hardclaiming.
In post 50, WeyounsLastClone wrote:But with not all roles in the game, and as far as I understood with no reveal upon death, it might be better to wait at first to get some more nights of information.
This is not pro-village. There is no motivation at all for town to try and keep WWs behind the curtain of the C/NC. C/NC is a great way to pressure them and out them without having to reveal
any
town PRs except the corrupt ones, which need to be outed anyway. Advocating not to reveal that information is anti-town. Scum points.
But doesn't follow up. never mentions WLC again, and doesn't include him on the ballot candidacy!
He also is fence-sitting the read on Galron on that same post. Galron has now probably blown his cover, so that is why Glitch decided to include him on his lost of candidates on the ballot, but we know both "main" Wolf team members know the others; including the Defector, so they probably won't vote him off.
I am calling for the Town now to put Glitch and WLC on the ballot, as I am confident enough that's the correct solve. We need to collectively make sure to not vote outside these two, so if the Wolf team all vote someone else we still have one of them at least.
Note that Wolves do NOT have daytalk, so it's gonna be a shot in the dark for them to collectively vote the same person. Add to that the Jester. I am willing to strike a bargain with Italiano here: Join us.. making it possible for us to go 4 on Glitch and 4 on WLC, thus guarateeing both are on the ballot. 6-2-1 tomorrow and we do Galron, thus 5-1-1 on D3, at which point we can eliminate Italiano and have it at 3-1-0 on D4.
P.S. This is your best option, Italiano. Scum won't shoot you because they want to hunt down the TPRs. If you don't accept, then we can still try to eliminate WLC/Glitch is succession to win the game without you.
Please announce your decision ASAP.
@Town: Now who is nomibating WLC and who is nominating Glitch?
You are my top TR right now so I put a lot of weight into your reads. I'm willing to roll with Galron on ballot and wouldn't oppose WLC but WLC literally just doesn't have enough content yet to sort him. He's got four posts, only one after my catchup post. While he scored some scum points off the bat, the lineup of others with more scumpoints is still greater. ISO WLC and see how little there is to go on.
Re: Elements proving themselves tomorrow --> This is an interesting take. If someone else is going to CC bard we need them to come out ASAP. If not then I am willing to wait on Elements another day. My primary focus would then shift to Italiano because I don't really believe the whole jester gambit. Releasing a ballot on elements I would prefer Italiano and insomnia, but I would compromise and move my vote to either of them or Galron too.
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:26 am
by TheFuzzylogic99
I think the highest wolf make the kill...which doesn't really matter bc we dont have a tracker
I dont like Ele claim as it makes the cop easier to find however , I am tending to believe him. We dont have a cc and there is no reason not to cc as we have the inn keeper and the cop . Bard is a secondary important role IMHO given theInnkeeper is in play. I do not think the Innkeeper of the cop should crumb and give the ww a clue to their ID..but they are free to do what they want.
I think the cop should investigate Italian. If he does ping corrupt then we lynch him if not then he prob the jester and we can make a better decision what we do with him tomorrow.
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:30 am
by Tayl0r Swift
In post 253, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:I think the highest wolf make the kill...which doesn't really matter bc we dont have a tracker
I dont like Ele claim as it makes the cop easier to find however , I am tending to believe him. We dont have a cc and there is no reason not to cc as we have the inn keeper and the cop . Bard is a secondary important role IMHO given theInnkeeper is in play. I do not think the Innkeeper of the cop should crumb and give the ww a clue to their ID..but they are free to do what they want.
I think the cop should investigate Italian. If he does ping corrupt then we lynch him if not then he prob the jester and we can make a better decision what we do with him tomorrow.
i kinda feel like its a waste to investigate italiano. on the other hand, we do need to sort that slot for sure, and early investigations are less likely to hit scum, so i guess if we are gonna do it better now than later. like the odds of actual scum there are pretty low.
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:12 pm
by Galron
I'm sticking with Italiano. I doubt we have a defector if we have a jester, and Italiano is acting all kinds of jester.
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:13 pm
by Galron
Elements should be off limits today.
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:16 pm
by Galron
But I'm not completely caught up, and we're about out of time, so if I need to vote elsewhere, that's fine.
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:25 pm
by CreativeMod1
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:25 pm
by Almost50
OK.. let's do this:
1- Put WLC + Glitch on the ballot
2- Eliminate WLC of the two
3- Clairvoyant checks Italiano
Also remember: IF the bard is dead there will be no announcement if the Clairvoyant checked a NON-CORRUPT. However, if the Clairvoyant dies, the announcement of C/NC still is public.
Glitch: Tayl0r Swift
WLC: Almost50
I urge everyone to confirm which they submitted (and urge everyone to submit one of these two precisely, so we can tell if someone lied about their vote)
Galron it is then (that's whom I'm voting and I won't reconsider)
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:35 pm
by brighteningskies
It's not confirmed there's a bard in the game (whereas there is a confirmation of an innkeeper being in) so Elements could theoretically be corrupt still but I still wouldn't have voted him if I'd seen his claim in time to change my vote before deadline, but thankfully he's not on the ballot.
Had a sleepy thought: Italino could be a wolf pretending to be Jester-like, but either way I'm not sure who to vote out of who is on the ballot just yet. Will think on this more in the morning.
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:47 pm
by Pine
In post 261, Almost50 wrote:Galron it is then (that's whom I'm voting and I won't reconsider)
Yup, Galron.
I do like your Glitch analysis though.
Hi DK! It’s a shame you’re probably scum here.
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:09 pm
by Galron
In post 261, Almost50 wrote:Galron it is then (that's whom I'm voting and I won't reconsider)
Because you think I'm the traitor or because IVD may be the jester?
so on the one hand im all for voting galron. that slot is scummy as hell. on the other hand, id like people to claim who voted for whom. i dont trust that it was townies who balloted galron and italiano. the scum are a large enough voting bloc that they should be able to get at least one person on the ballot unless town coordinates, which we didnt.
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:26 pm
by ItalianoVD
In post 269, Tayl0r Swift wrote:so on the one hand im all for voting galron. that slot is scummy as hell. on the other hand, id like people to claim who voted for whom. i dont trust that it was townies who balloted galron and italiano. the scum are a large enough voting bloc that they should be able to get at least one person on the ballot unless town coordinates,
In post 269, Tayl0r Swift wrote:so on the one hand im all for voting galron. that slot is scummy as hell. on the other hand, id like people to claim who voted for whom. i dont trust that it was townies who balloted galron and italiano. the scum are a large enough voting bloc that they should be able to get at least one person on the ballot unless town coordinates,
which we didnt.
And you would know this...how?
well because the only way for town to coordinate is to do it in thread. we were trying to coordinate to ballot two people who didnt make it onto the ballot. it seems apparent that our attempt to coordinate failed.
have you considered our offer to work with town for a few days and then get killed?
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:43 pm
by TheFuzzylogic99
I balloted Garon bc he seem like he is the defector and with little info it seem like the best choice. I am prob wrong...my first few days usually dont have good reads