Newbie 1351: Hyrule's Under Attack.. Interesting..-GAME OVER

goodmorning · Post Post #2525 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 3:06 am

I was literally typing WHAT IN THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

But then I realized this is 1351 and there was in fact

already a scumflip

.

i am such an idiot
i could not manufacture stupidity that stupid if i tried
Besides that, it's page 101. That's long past the time when derpy "townslips" have any kind of credibility at all.

Yeah, Z, disregard that shit, but new question:
Why do you think I am Scum?

In fact, everyone can answer that if they think I'm Scum.
I have been looking for a good case to refute but all anyone seems to have is WIFOM. That's no fun.

Mac · Post Post #2526 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 4:20 am

In post 2515, fferyllt wrote:
In post 2291, Mac wrote:Yeah like every post is WIFOM now and I don't like it.

I know I was a top partner-read for alot of people but that doesn't mean I won't be killed. I was an easy lynch d2 when at L-1 but I managed to get away from it (
although not on my own terms.
.) but yeah, if I was the target last night, it would've thrown a spanner in the works had I not been protected.
What would your own terms have been?

well my wagon de-railed itself, I would've preferred that people realised I was town because of what I was saying rather than leaving a spec of

what if?

doubt.

does that make sense?

Mac · Post Post #2527 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 4:22 am

In post 2519, goodmorning wrote:Well this game is dying. Z desperately needs prodding unless he's V/LA and there have only been two players posting within the last 2 days.

Someone should explain why Mac hasn't been lynched yet.

maybe people realise I'm town?

fferyllt · Post Post #2528 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 4:23 am

2526 and 2527 are hilariously dissonant.

Which is it? Is there doubt left or not?

Mac · Post Post #2529 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 4:28 am

In post 2528, fferyllt wrote:2526 and 2527 are hilariously dissonant.

Which is it? Is there doubt left or not?

#2526 is talking retrospectively. I don't know if people genuinely think

what if?

about the wagon, or what could've been. but it always there. It's like the whole 'cannot be unseen' meme type shit.

#2527 is talking about now. maybe I should've added or "or maybe people see the holes in your claim?" as well rather than just people realised I'm being setup here but the point still stands.

Mac · Post Post #2530 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 4:32 am

why do I think you are scum GM?

> you seemingly needed to be pressured into voting me, rather than coming straight out of the blocks attacking me. if you jailkept and there was no kill then you would probably be highly suspicious, no? instead, now a wagon has formed on you, you are constantly preaching "WHY ARE WE NOT LYNCHING MAC" like this is what you've been campaigning all of day three for. it isn't.
> because of the above, it looked like you were trying to coast through with whichever mislynch suited you best rather than your real 'suspect'
> fferylt digging up the quote from that QT which seems to fit in with this game
> weak 'crumbing'

fferyllt · Post Post #2531 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 4:47 am

Mac's first two points are actually what is weighing most heavily for me.

On the other side of that scale is my bias about PRs.

If I vote to lynch Mac, it will be driven by that bias and by pure PoE. If his lynch doesn't end the game I'll want to lynch GM if I am alive tomorrow.

goodmorning · Post Post #2532 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 6:06 am

In post 2530, Mac wrote:> you seemingly needed to be pressured into voting me, rather than coming straight out of the blocks attacking me. if you jailkept and there was no kill then you would probably be highly suspicious, no?

There are many other reasons there could have been no kill, and I had very strong scumreads on people who weren't you previously. So no, you wouldn't necessarily be highly suspicious just for being jailed on a no-kill night.

instead, now a wagon has formed on you, you are constantly preaching "WHY ARE WE NOT LYNCHING MAC" like this is what you've been campaigning all of day three for. it isn't.

Have I advocated for any other wagons D3?

> because of the above, it looked like you were trying to coast through with whichever mislynch suited you best rather than your real 'suspect'

See above.

> fferylt digging up the quote from that QT which seems to fit in with this game

Confirmation bias.

> weak 'crumbing'

Is there a stronger way to crumb jailkeeper? I'm sorry now I didn't go with the stupid "first-letter" chestnut.

Mac · Post Post #2533 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 6:26 am

In post 2532, goodmorning wrote:
In post 2530, Mac wrote:> you seemingly needed to be pressured into voting me, rather than coming straight out of the blocks attacking me. if you jailkept and there was no kill then you would probably be highly suspicious, no?
There are many other reasons there could have been no kill, and I had very strong scumreads on people who weren't you previously. So no, you wouldn't necessarily be highly suspicious just for being jailed on a no-kill night.

ok... so what happened to those scumreads & why am I suddenly number one?

instead, now a wagon has formed on you, you are constantly preaching "WHY ARE WE NOT LYNCHING MAC" like this is what you've been campaigning all of day three for. it isn't.
Have I advocated for any other wagons D3?

no. thank you for proving my point

> because of the above, it looked like you were trying to coast through with whichever mislynch suited you best rather than your real 'suspect'
See above.

see above also

> fferylt digging up the quote from that QT which seems to fit in with this game
Confirmation bias.

if you say so? it's not.

> weak 'crumbing'
Is there a stronger way to crumb jailkeeper? I'm sorry now I didn't go with the stupid "first-letter" chestnut.

do you think keep is a telling way? keep that's a word used in every day sort of sentences? do you see what I am getting at?

answered.I hate bolding but couldn't be arsed tearing it apart.

Mac · Post Post #2534 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 6:30 am

In post 2531, fferyllt wrote:Mac's first two points are actually what is weighing most heavily for me.

On the other side of that scale is my bias about PRs.

If I vote to lynch Mac, it will be driven by that bias and by pure PoE. If his lynch doesn't end the game I'll want to lynch GM if I am alive tomorrow.

like FMPOV this is... bad.

goodmorning · Post Post #2535 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 6:48 am

In post 2533, Mac wrote:
In post 2532, goodmorning wrote:There are many other reasons there could have been no kill, and I had very strong scumreads on people who weren't you previously. So no, you wouldn't necessarily be highly suspicious just for being jailed on a no-kill night.

ok... so what happened to those scumreads & why am I suddenly number one?

They don't really make sense paired with GIF. You do.

instead, now a wagon has formed on you, you are constantly preaching "WHY ARE WE NOT LYNCHING MAC" like this is what you've been campaigning all of day three for. it isn't.
Have I advocated for any other wagons D3?

no. thank you for proving my point

You seem to be saying that I have been advocating for other than your lynch toDay. Now you're agreeing that I haven't. What, pray tell, is your point?

> weak 'crumbing'
Is there a stronger way to crumb jailkeeper? I'm sorry now I didn't go with the stupid "first-letter" chestnut.

do you think keep is a telling way? keep that's a word used in every day sort of sentences? do you see what I am getting at?

It's at least slightly more original than Jack And Irma Left Keith Every Excellent Point Except Reality.

fferyllt · Post Post #2536 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 6:52 am

In post 2534, Mac wrote:
In post 2531, fferyllt wrote:Mac's first two points are actually what is weighing most heavily for me.

On the other side of that scale is my bias about PRs.

If I vote to lynch Mac, it will be driven by that bias and by pure PoE. If his lynch doesn't end the game I'll want to lynch GM if I am alive tomorrow.
like FMPOV this is... bad.

Why?

Mac · Post Post #2537 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 6:54 am

In post 2535, goodmorning wrote:
In post 2533, Mac wrote:
In post 2532, goodmorning wrote:There are many other reasons there could have been no kill, and I had very strong scumreads on people who weren't you previously. So no, you wouldn't necessarily be highly suspicious just for being jailed on a no-kill night.

ok... so what happened to those scumreads & why am I suddenly number one?
They don't really make sense paired with GIF. You do.

instead, now a wagon has formed on you, you are constantly preaching "WHY ARE WE NOT LYNCHING MAC" like this is what you've been campaigning all of day three for. it isn't.
Have I advocated for any other wagons D3?

no. thank you for proving my point
You seem to be saying that I have been advocating for other than your lynch toDay. Now you're agreeing that I haven't. What, pray tell, is your point?

> weak 'crumbing'
Is there a stronger way to crumb jailkeeper? I'm sorry now I didn't go with the stupid "first-letter" chestnut.

do you think keep is a telling way? keep that's a word used in every day sort of sentences? do you see what I am getting at?
It's at least slightly more original than Jack And Irma Left Keith Every Excellent Point Except Reality.

Remind me why I made sense as GIF's partner?

no I'm not, you haven't been campaigning for anything day three until it started turning on you and you needed someone to accuse. your case on me is that I make sense as GIF's partner rather than me being a scumread.

that crumb would make your claim more believable. sadly, you opted for keep which seems exactly like you ctrl+f'd yourself and hoped you had crumbed it.

Mac · Post Post #2538 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 6:55 am

EBWOP: top scumread.

Mac · Post Post #2539 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 6:58 am

In post 2536, fferyllt wrote:
In post 2534, Mac wrote:
In post 2531, fferyllt wrote:Mac's first two points are actually what is weighing most heavily for me.

On the other side of that scale is my bias about PRs.

If I vote to lynch Mac, it will be driven by that bias and by pure PoE. If his lynch doesn't end the game I'll want to lynch GM if I am alive tomorrow.
like FMPOV this is... bad.
Why?

1) I am town, for a start.
2) my lynch won't end the game, only put the town in MyLo
3) PoE? is that PoE that I am the only scum or what? either way it's weak imo.
4) Bias against PRs isn't a great thing to have by any means.

goodmorning · Post Post #2540 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 7:01 am

Sometimes things change. You were a townread, now I think you're scum. I'll go back and look through the interactions if you really want a case as to why you plus GIF makes sense.

Mac · Post Post #2541 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 7:04 am

well I wouldn't mind it cos I don't think you have?

goodmorning · Post Post #2542 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 7:06 am

But I want to be lazyyyyyy

Plus like everyone else already hassssss

Mac · Post Post #2543 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 7:08 am

so are you sheeping everyone else even though they aren't pushing it?

goodmorning · Post Post #2544 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 7:34 am

Not what I'm saying.

fferyllt · Post Post #2545 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 7:38 am

In post 2539, Mac wrote:
In post 2536, fferyllt wrote:
In post 2534, Mac wrote:
In post 2531, fferyllt wrote:Mac's first two points are actually what is weighing most heavily for me.

On the other side of that scale is my bias about PRs.

If I vote to lynch Mac, it will be driven by that bias and by pure PoE. If his lynch doesn't end the game I'll want to lynch GM if I am alive tomorrow.
like FMPOV this is... bad.
Why?
1) I am town, for a start.
2) my lynch won't end the game, only put the town in MyLo
3) PoE? is that PoE that I am the only scum or what? either way it's weak imo.
4) Bias against PRs isn't a great thing to have by any means.

1. Nobody else knows that.

2. If the next lynch is your top scum read, it's not a terrible thing, though, right? It's a fine line, looking survival-driven, especially before hitting MYLO.

3. PoE that you're one of two scum reads I currently have.

4. My bias is toward protecting/preserving PR claims that go uncountered, which is the main thing weighting your lynch above GM's at the moment. but I can't begin to describe how close this all is in my mind atm.

Mac · Post Post #2546 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 8:41 am

In post 2544, goodmorning wrote:Not what I'm saying.

what are you saying then?

Mac · Post Post #2547 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 8:50 am

In post 2545, fferyllt wrote:
In post 2539, Mac wrote:
In post 2536, fferyllt wrote:
In post 2534, Mac wrote:
In post 2531, fferyllt wrote:Mac's first two points are actually what is weighing most heavily for me.

On the other side of that scale is my bias about PRs.

If I vote to lynch Mac, it will be driven by that bias and by pure PoE. If his lynch doesn't end the game I'll want to lynch GM if I am alive tomorrow.
like FMPOV this is... bad.
Why?
1) I am town, for a start.
2) my lynch won't end the game, only put the town in MyLo
3) PoE? is that PoE that I am the only scum or what? either way it's weak imo.
4) Bias against PRs isn't a great thing to have by any means.
1. Nobody else knows that.

2. If the next lynch is your top scum read, it's not a terrible thing, though, right? It's a fine line, looking survival-driven, especially before hitting MYLO.

3. PoE that you're one of two scum reads I currently have.

4. My bias is toward protecting/preserving PR claims that go uncountered, which is the main thing weighting your lynch above GM's at the moment. but I can't begin to describe how close this all is in my mind atm.

1. that's why it's FMPOV

2. it's not survivalistic from, but I think GM is scum. I've outlined why several times: there is nothing survivalistic about this.

3. I see

4. okay, but I simply don't get it. I understand the edginess with regards to PRs but this claim has loads of holes that simply can't be ignored.

goodmorning · Post Post #2548 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 11:34 am

In post 2546, Mac wrote:
In post 2544, goodmorning wrote:Not what I'm saying.
what are you saying then?

I'm saying that I came to the conclusion independently (I think I was the second to post a pair list?) but for many of the same reasons everyone else did.
I am also saying that I'm lazy and I don't want to make a case right now. I'll get to it eventually though.

Ineffective · Post Post #2549 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 5:51 pm

In post 2523, goodmorning wrote:Z, I will point out that it is very very unlikely that both of the PR claims are Scum. So I have a few questions for you:
If I am Town and VE is Scum, who is the other Scum?
If I am Scum and VE is Town, who is the other Scum?
If I am Town and VE is Town, who is the other Scum?

What the actual fuck...