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Why? Do you really think a Mantis flashwagon was viable?In post 2568, serrapaladin wrote:I don't think that was the time to distance, to be honest.
Impossible. Mantis had already claimed neighbor.In post 2571, waynegg wrote:My big deal with Desp's tracker claim is this
"The Tracker is an informative role that can target a player at Night and learn who, if anybody, that player targeted the same night (but not the action the player performed).
Trackers have been seen as each alignment.
This version of Tracker, and only this version of Tracker, is considered Normal on mafiascum.net."
He wouldn't know what night action Mantis took, only who he hypothetically targeted. Wisdom was such a turd, I'm sure he would have had all kinds of targeting N2. The way Desp came in with the go!go!go! Kind of tone reeks of scum. That's undeniable.
Are you fucking shitting me. We already had a BG flip. The odds of a 3rd visiting town role are extremely low. And Mantis had already claimed not to have an action, so...In post 2571, waynegg wrote:He wouldn't know what night action Mantis took, only who he hypothetically targeted. Wisdom was such a turd, I'm sure he would have had all kinds of targeting N2. The way Desp came in with the go!go!go! Kind of tone reeks of scum. That's undeniable.
Totally. Peng did have intent to hammer on her not much later...In post 2575, Desperado wrote:Why? Do you really think a Mantis flashwagon was viable?In post 2568, serrapaladin wrote:I don't think that was the time to distance, to be honest.
And the totally dropped it on the next page with no prompting, even though you voted with her.
I could see any of you, FakeGod, or Desp bringing that idea up.In post 2566, serrapaladin wrote:Nati, if desp is scum, do you think he came up with leaving you alive and claim a guilty?
Sup, "what I did next"? Like, you know, run up my supposed scumbuddy to L-1 with intent to hammer on the table?Given what she did next I have no idea why you think that can't be distancing
@ Nat: You're basically saying "crumbing = town, no crumbing = scum" when you crumbed and I didn't. It isn't even subtle.
Perpetual mylo with 2 more (most likely in my mind) to flip isn't a favorable condition for town to win. That gives scum 2 chances for a blind town to mislynch and lose. I guarantee they would take out the town eyes next, Nati if you will.In post 2565, FakeGod wrote:If mantis flips town, then desp gets lynched tomorrow and flip scum.In post 2558, waynegg wrote:I've already answered this twice. This is the last time and I'll make it big and bold so you can't miss it this time.In post 2543, FakeGod wrote:wayne, if Desp is scum, he just killed himself with that claim.
Why would he do that? Especially since according to you, he wasn't in really in danger of getting lynched for d1 or d2.
Mantis lynch is the correct lynch for today.
BECAUSE IT WOULD TAKE THE GAME TO MYLO WITH NO FLIPPED SCUM. FROM THERE IT'S STATISTICALLY HIGHLY IMPROBABLE FOR TOWN TO WIN. THE PROPER QUESTION IS WHY WOULDN'T HE. IT HAS ALL THE SCUMOTIVATION IN THE WORLD TO DO SO.
Then, town would be in MyLo with a flipped scum.
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In post 2580, serrapaladin wrote:Totally. Peng did have intent to hammer on her not much later...In post 2575, Desperado wrote:Why? Do you really think a Mantis flashwagon was viable?In post 2568, serrapaladin wrote:I don't think that was the time to distance, to be honest.
And the totally dropped it on the next page with no prompting, even though you voted with her.
That was a hypothetical. I even said hypothetical. That's to illustrate the Desp would have no clue what his target did, just who he targeted. Now don't twist my words or I might think you're trying to trick me.In post 2573, serrapaladin wrote:Then stop sounding so fake, mantis! :/
@wayne: mantis claimed not to have a night-action. Stop being stupid.
Yes, I deny it. Anyone who is swayed to believe a claim because the claimer crumbed their role is setting themselves up for failure.In post 2581, Natirasha wrote:Crumbing has nothing to do with scumminess-you brought your own grave on that--but it does give credence to claims. I was crumbing from day one. Yes, scum can crumb too, but do you deny that it makes you believe a claim any more?
Usually, no. They just get to talk to each other at night
Your hypothetical doesn't mean jack shit because Mantis had already claimed not to have an action, and the possibility of a 3rd visiting town role is low enough that it isn't worth consideration. For all intents and purposes, I know Mantis killed Wisdom.In post 2585, waynegg wrote:That was a hypothetical. I even said hypothetical. That's to illustrate the Desp would have no clue what his target did, just who he targeted. Now don't twist my words or I might think you're trying to trick me.In post 2573, serrapaladin wrote:Then stop sounding so fake, mantis! :/
@wayne: mantis claimed not to have a night-action. Stop being stupid.
There's nothing which precludes neighbor from having an addition role other than the fact that Mala told me this is a normal game. By your own statement, Mantis couldn't target anybody for anything and Wisdom did flip neighbor, ergo Mantis is also neighbor. Mantis could be scum, yes but if he's neighbor he probably doesn't get to input the kill. That would most likely be some other team scum member.In post 2576, FakeGod wrote:Impossible. Mantis had already claimed neighbor.In post 2571, waynegg wrote:My big deal with Desp's tracker claim is this
"The Tracker is an informative role that can target a player at Night and learn who, if anybody, that player targeted the same night (but not the action the player performed).
Trackers have been seen as each alignment.
This version of Tracker, and only this version of Tracker, is considered Normal on mafiascum.net."
He wouldn't know what night action Mantis took, only who he hypothetically targeted. Wisdom was such a turd, I'm sure he would have had all kinds of targeting N2. The way Desp came in with the go!go!go! Kind of tone reeks of scum. That's undeniable.
Desp knew that mantis cannot possibly visit anyone if Mantis was telling the truth about his role.
Therefore, Desp knew that he had a guilty coming into d3.
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Sorry, what?In post 2594, waynegg wrote:Mala told me this is a normal game
Neighbor isn't an active ability and would have no relevance to who can perform the kill.In post 2594, waynegg wrote:There's nothing which precludes neighbor from having an addition role other than the fact that Mala told me this is a normal game. By your own statement, Mantis couldn't target anybody for anything and Wisdom did flip neighbor, ergo Mantis is also neighbor. Mantis could be scum, yes but if he's neighbor he probably doesn't get to input the kill. That would most likely be some other team scum member.In post 2576, FakeGod wrote:Impossible. Mantis had already claimed neighbor.In post 2571, waynegg wrote:My big deal with Desp's tracker claim is this
"The Tracker is an informative role that can target a player at Night and learn who, if anybody, that player targeted the same night (but not the action the player performed).
Trackers have been seen as each alignment.
This version of Tracker, and only this version of Tracker, is considered Normal on mafiascum.net."
He wouldn't know what night action Mantis took, only who he hypothetically targeted. Wisdom was such a turd, I'm sure he would have had all kinds of targeting N2. The way Desp came in with the go!go!go! Kind of tone reeks of scum. That's undeniable.
Desp knew that mantis cannot possibly visit anyone if Mantis was telling the truth about his role.
Therefore, Desp knew that he had a guilty coming into d3.
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