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You and mom are masons or soemthing? Or are you soemthing else that invites others?

In post 2571, Vaxkiller wrote:

In post 2568, MathBlade wrote:So the simple answer whatever your alignment is that Flea never visited Vax the answer becomes why.

Pedit: Look at who died Vax.

The person I asked to target you.

You said Flea didn’t visit you and you had no messages at day start which you’d have if Flea died by visiting you,

So whatever your alignment Flea didn’t visit you it becomes a matter of why

Why did you ask flea to target me? Was it in your neighborhood? Why would you do that?

Is DGB in your neighborhood?

I did that for manh reasons

1) If you’re scum and not PGO then scum have to fix the kill around you.
This enables a secret protective (if any) and any masons to live another day.

2) If you’re scum and PGO investigatives know not to target you and you can be sorted.

3) If you’re town and PGO then we trade a fruit vendor for an unkillable Townie at night.

It forces this day play.

With you not receiving any messages number 2 is out.
This means you’re either town and unkillable except by ninja or BP or you’re scum and I bought an extra day for conf town win win.

In post 2575, Vaxkiller wrote:You and mom are masons or soemthing? Or are you soemthing else that invites others?

We’re mason+

In post 2560, Vaxkiller wrote:

In post 2557, Infinity 324 wrote:Scum!you can just check the wiki anyway

Huh?

I was just saying that if you were scum you could've just checked the wiki to confirm whether PGOs get notified if they are targeted.

Vax being an ascetic would make a lot of sense I think, but they could still be scum PGO? Idk, I just think they're scum.

Btw math, I think you may be overestimating how much power town has. Roleblocker isn't a super strong PR, and neither is 1-shot vig. Most of town's power is in the masons. I think if vax flips ascetic guillo could still be goon, depending on exactly what the masons are.

If vax is town, I don't see a reason for scum to block flea.

So no we can’t invite people.

So if you’re town then DGB almost certainly becomes scum.

And because G likely isn’t the killer (must as I hate his mechanics stupidity) then DGB likely didn’t stop the kill unless there’s four scum.

However getting town to take that leap of faith is really hard.

In post 2569, Vaxkiller wrote:

In post 2566, Guillotina wrote:Why risk*

Lol coming from you. Im Sry dude.

Stop deflecting. Answer the question

VOTE: Vaxkiller

i like dgb, wahts the likely hood of that?

not likely in a 13 player game?

In post 2578, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 2560, Vaxkiller wrote:

In post 2557, Infinity 324 wrote:Scum!you can just check the wiki anyway

Huh?

I was just saying that if you were scum you could've just checked the wiki to confirm whether PGOs get notified if they are targeted.

Vax being an ascetic would make a lot of sense I think, but they could still be scum PGO? Idk, I just think they're scum.

Btw math, I think you may be overestimating how much power town has. Roleblocker isn't a super strong PR, and neither is 1-shot vig. Most of town's power is in the masons. I think if vax flips ascetic guillo could still be goon, depending on exactly what the masons are.

If vax is town, I don't see a reason for scum to block flea.

They can’t.

There’s something special about Flea’s target.

If Vax claims it I would ask.

I think Vax is being set up but I understand if Vax is elimmed today as it seems like moon logic

But I think if we elim Vax the next elims should be DGB/Nora then the other and if we still have a game G.

In post 2576, MathBlade wrote:

In post 2571, Vaxkiller wrote:

In post 2568, MathBlade wrote:So the simple answer whatever your alignment is that Flea never visited Vax the answer becomes why.

Pedit: Look at who died Vax.

The person I asked to target you.

You said Flea didn’t visit you and you had no messages at day start which you’d have if Flea died by visiting you,

So whatever your alignment Flea didn’t visit you it becomes a matter of why

Why did you ask flea to target me? Was it in your neighborhood? Why would you do that?

Is DGB in your neighborhood?

I did that for manh reasons

1) If you’re scum and not PGO then scum have to fix the kill around you.
This enables a secret protective (if any) and any masons to live another day.

2) If you’re scum and PGO investigatives know not to target you and you can be sorted.

3) If you’re town and PGO then we trade a fruit vendor for an unkillable Townie at night.

It forces this day play.

With you not receiving any messages number 2 is out.
This means you’re either town and unkillable except by ninja or BP or you’re scum and I bought an extra day for conf town win win.

Why PGO can be killed by ninja?

Ninja is untrackable or unwatchable, that’s it.

Scum Vax here if PGO and visited claims it here almost always. There’d be no downside.

So if Vax is town or scum he almost certainly didn’t get visited by Flea. That I believe.

In post 2579, MathBlade wrote:So no we can’t invite people.

So if you’re town then DGB almost certainly becomes scum.

And because G likely isn’t the killer (must as I hate his mechanics stupidity) then DGB likely didn’t stop the kill unless there’s four scum.

However getting town to take that leap of faith is really hard.

I am town. So somewhere your calculations are wrong.

In post 2584, Guillotina wrote:

In post 2576, MathBlade wrote:

In post 2571, Vaxkiller wrote:

In post 2568, MathBlade wrote:So the simple answer whatever your alignment is that Flea never visited Vax the answer becomes why.

Pedit: Look at who died Vax.

The person I asked to target you.

You said Flea didn’t visit you and you had no messages at day start which you’d have if Flea died by visiting you,

So whatever your alignment Flea didn’t visit you it becomes a matter of why

Why did you ask flea to target me? Was it in your neighborhood? Why would you do that?

Is DGB in your neighborhood?

I did that for manh reasons

1) If you’re scum and not PGO then scum have to fix the kill around you.
This enables a secret protective (if any) and any masons to live another day.

2) If you’re scum and PGO investigatives know not to target you and you can be sorted.

3) If you’re town and PGO then we trade a fruit vendor for an unkillable Townie at night.

It forces this day play.

With you not receiving any messages number 2 is out.
This means you’re either town and unkillable except by ninja or BP or you’re scum and I bought an extra day for conf town win win.

Why PGO can be killed by ninja?

Ninja is untrackable or unwatchable, that’s it.

Depends on how the ninja would be worded but it could be possible town!Vax would be killed by Ninja. Yeah.

In post 2585, MathBlade wrote:Scum Vax here if PGO and visited claims it here almost always. There’d be no downside.

So if Vax is town or scum he almost certainly didn’t get visited by Flea. That I believe.

Maybe Flea didn't send a night action? Fae was not feeling well.

In post 2586, DrippingGoofball wrote:

In post 2579, MathBlade wrote:So no we can’t invite people.

So if you’re town then DGB almost certainly becomes scum.

And because G likely isn’t the killer (must as I hate his mechanics stupidity) then DGB likely didn’t stop the kill unless there’s four scum.

However getting town to take that leap of faith is really hard.

I am town. So somewhere your calculations are wrong.

Assume Vax is town.

How does he not get Flea’s notification (and don’t say mod error)?

If someone got a fruit or w/e from flea they should claim it

Otherwise I don't see how vax is town. Scum would've had to block and kill flea right?

In post 2590, Infinity 324 wrote:If someone got a fruit or w/e from flea they should claim it

Otherwise I don't see how vax is town. Scum would've had to block and kill flea right?

That makes sense.

In post 2588, DrippingGoofball wrote:

In post 2585, MathBlade wrote:Scum Vax here if PGO and visited claims it here almost always. There’d be no downside.

So if Vax is town or scum he almost certainly didn’t get visited by Flea. That I believe.

Maybe Flea didn't send a night action? Fae was not feeling well.

Possible but even with the extra time it’s unlikely.

In this case it acts the same as if Vax wasn’t PGO though, scum had to kill Flea so not taking this one into consideration. Scum Vax would have to be ascetic or Flea would be roleblocked.

Or as DGB said it he didnt send it.

In post 2592, MathBlade wrote:

In post 2588, DrippingGoofball wrote:

In post 2585, MathBlade wrote:Scum Vax here if PGO and visited claims it here almost always. There’d be no downside.

So if Vax is town or scum he almost certainly didn’t get visited by Flea. That I believe.

Maybe Flea didn't send a night action? Fae was not feeling well.

Possible but even with the extra time it’s unlikely.

In this case it acts the same as if Vax wasn’t PGO though, scum had to kill Flea so not taking this one into consideration. Scum Vax would have to be ascetic or Flea would be roleblocked.

Di you tell flea to target me in the game tho?

In post 2590, Infinity 324 wrote:If someone got a fruit or w/e from flea they should claim it

Otherwise I don't see how vax is town. Scum would've had to block and kill flea right?

Exactly my point.

Scum Vax would 100% claim visited here. Even if he wasn’t because he’d be the elim either way he has nothing to lose.

The fact he claimed not visited means it’s probably a setup with DGB blocking flea. It probably took it a step too far.

In post 2594, Vaxkiller wrote:

In post 2592, MathBlade wrote:

In post 2588, DrippingGoofball wrote:

In post 2585, MathBlade wrote:Scum Vax here if PGO and visited claims it here almost always. There’d be no downside.

So if Vax is town or scum he almost certainly didn’t get visited by Flea. That I believe.

Maybe Flea didn't send a night action? Fae was not feeling well.

Possible but even with the extra time it’s unlikely.

In this case it acts the same as if Vax wasn’t PGO though, scum had to kill Flea so not taking this one into consideration. Scum Vax would have to be ascetic or Flea would be roleblocked.

Di you tell flea to target me in the game tho?

I did

In post 2589, MathBlade wrote:

In post 2586, DrippingGoofball wrote:

In post 2579, MathBlade wrote:So no we can’t invite people.

So if you’re town then DGB almost certainly becomes scum.

And because G likely isn’t the killer (must as I hate his mechanics stupidity) then DGB likely didn’t stop the kill unless there’s four scum.

However getting town to take that leap of faith is really hard.

I am town. So somewhere your calculations are wrong.

Assume Vax is town.

How does he not get Flea’s notification (and don’t say mod error)?

A) DGB roleblocked and killed them. Where’s the point in this though
B) Vax is not in communication with other mafia (offline etc) and didn’t know if they should claim that or not.
C) Flea targeted someone else or didn’t target at all.
D) Vax wants to make them seem aligned with DGB as a suicidal attempt to kill a Town PR
E) PGO stops the vendor ability
There’s probably more

In post 2589, MathBlade wrote:

In post 2586, DrippingGoofball wrote:

In post 2579, MathBlade wrote:So no we can’t invite people.

So if you’re town then DGB almost certainly becomes scum.

And because G likely isn’t the killer (must as I hate his mechanics stupidity) then DGB likely didn’t stop the kill unless there’s four scum.

However getting town to take that leap of faith is really hard.

I am town. So somewhere your calculations are wrong.

Assume Vax is town.

How does he not get Flea’s notification (and don’t say mod error)?

(1) Flea may not have sent a night action. Fae was feeling very poorly.
(2) Flea might have chosen another target. Has everyone checked in?
(3) Flea might have targeted scum, and they're not telling.

It’s possible that Vax is scum and ascetic but that would still require DGB blocking Vax and I don’t see two scum busses back to back by DGB. I don’t see it being that bold.