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Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:22 am**

In post 2697, Servant Caster wrote:like would roleblocks work on you?

I asked, it does not. It only counters effects like post restriction or an effect that has dome sort of permanence or duration.

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:50 am**

In post 2699, Servant Alter Ego wrote:Obviously I was being dumb.

I didn't think so actually. Those last posts from caster were paranoia inducing. But its a relief she isn't scum (or else is overly cautious of lancer's role).

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:15 am**

ugh you can call me an idiot in the postgame if this is wrong but I'm very vulnerable to AtE and Alter Ego just wants it so much more

VOTE: Assassin

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:16 am**

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:17 am**

I think I've lost a year of my life thinking about this game

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:18 am**

@Lancer I'm fine if you want to deadlock this vote 2-2 and punt for lylo tomm

one of us is going to get nightkilled and maybe that information is useful somehow

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:21 am**

In post 2702, Servant Caster wrote:ugh you can call me an idiot in the postgame if this is wrong but I'm very vulnerable to AtE and Alter Ego just wants it so much more

VOTE: Assassin

So you want Alter to win as scum more than every other town player in the game that is either living or dead? Say what you want about me, but plenty of other people over the course of this game have put in effort.

Please try to play to win.

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:59 am**

Of course I want town to win

I just have trouble believing Alter is the last scum : (

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:09 am**

but you roleblocked assassin on a night that he would have had to make the kill and you confirmed that your ability works on factional kills and abilities and NPs

shouldn't that trump play every time?

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:10 am**

In post 2641, Servant Caster wrote:I don't think I can get to a place where Assassin is some kind of selective ascetic/strongman who just happened to activate his ability on night two when I roleblocked him.

If I'm wrong I'm sorry but it's just one of those flukey results that you don't really expect to show up in games.

In post 2654, Servant Caster wrote:If you're town then we got screwed by mech at some point along the way and that's not really anyone's fault.

I kind of doubt there is mech that would explicitly screw up the town in a game where the role distribution is 4 v 10 because that's kind of nuts?

I've re-read my role PM and asked cabd about whether I roleblock factional kills and double checked everything so it's just a locked mech win unless Avenger somehow misread the PM and I'm never in a million years going to believe that a Friendly Neighbor is fake or someone misread their friendly message notification. In that scenario the fault is Avenger's alone and I won't really care because such a thing is unwinnable.

you said this yourself

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:11 am**

I'm going to cite rider here and say that we probably shouldn't no-elim in case there's an extra kill ability floating out there. it would be awful to lose today but it would be even worse if we lost at night because we didn't eliminate someone.

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:12 am**

In post 2708, Servant Lancer wrote:but you roleblocked assassin on a night that he would have had to make the kill and you confirmed that your ability works on factional kills and abilities and NPs

shouldn't that trump play every time?

yes but if he has some kind of anti-roleblock mech it wouldn't actually work on him.

I know what I said but im getting cold feet after thinking about it for a week :<

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:13 am**

like I didn't actually get a * for successfully roleblocking anything

so either he didn't do anything, or my roleblock failed for some reason and I'm really scared of "some reason"

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:15 am**

Foreigner flipped with a self-ascetizing ability and moon cancer flipped with a strongman ability though

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:18 am**

ok so why wouldn't the last scum also have some kind of ability to help pierce roleblocks?

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:21 am**

I mean we have no way of knowing one way or the other

but the time to argue that assassin isn't actually clear was like four weeks ago when you announced you roleblocked him, not 30 minutes before ELO-deadline

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:23 am**

well now we have more information than we had 4 weeks ago.

do you think Alter Ego sounds like the last caught scum?

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:24 am**

alter would be close to winning/losing as either alignment, of course he doesn't want to be voted. I don't really think AtE should be considered that alignment-indicative at this point

you were scumreading alter yesterday, why did you change your mind today?

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:25 am**

In post 2617, Servant Caster wrote:
In post 2515, Servant Beast wrote:Received the invite Assassin.
^ so the PT thing is definitely real

I think it's just Alter Ego here?

Unless Assassin has some kind of day-neighborize NP-ability, a fruit vendor ability, a charm ability and a strongman ability?

That seems kind of far-fetched for me to believe :<

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:25 am**

I have obsessive compulsive tendency to think way too hard about games

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:43 am**

I could compile every post I've made about my role. Suffice it to say I have crumbed, hinted, or confirmed every part of it and have done so mostly before the roleblock on me. You have confirmed I'm not ascetic at night, which means to counter your roleblock I'd have either have to have an active ability that does that or a passive that allows me to bypass roleblocks. Foreigner's role is already dedicated to that precise scenario and no flipped scum has shared any ability or any utility.

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:57 am**

my head says just vote for AE but my heart says he's innocent : (

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:11 am**

I can hammer AE if you want me to but I really dont feel good about this ;_;

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:14 am**

I think you just have to judge us on dayplay at this point. I'm a little taken aback here because I didn't think assassin would play things this way as scum. Not sure how to process this information.

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:14 am**

I can try to scrape together a case but it'd be pretty bullshit and we're pressed for time already

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