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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:38 pm
by gelsomina
yeah, pretty sure we are looking for far left; here are some random algebra questions from an end of seventh grade test:
  • 12. simplify the expressions

    a. 7s + 2 + 8s - 12
    b. x · 5 · x · x · x
    c. 3(a + b - 2)
    d. 0.02x + x
    e. 1/3(6w - 12)
    f. -1.3a + 0.5 - 2.6a

    13. factor the expressions (write them as multiplications)

    a. 7x + 14
    b. 15 - 5y
    c. 21a + 24b - 9

    14. solve the equations

    a. 2x - 7 = -6
    b. 2 - 9 = -z + 4
    c. 120 = c/-10
    d. 2(x + 1/2) = -15
    e. (2/3)x = 266
    f. x + 1.5 = 3/8

    15. chris can run at a constant speed of 12 km/h. how long will it take him to run from his home to the park, a distance of 0.8 km?

    17. the perimeter of a rectangle is 254 cm. its length is 55 cm. represent the width of the rectangle with a variable and write an equation to solve for the width. then solve your equation.

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:50 pm
by Sirius9121
i'd guess 25

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:02 am
by Xalxe
It it specific enough that I assume it is not extreme, and looking at those problems I'm comfortable with left, sure.

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:17 am
by gelsomina
to alleviate some of the downtime for the team that is not active at any given time we could adjust the psychic to be like

both teams send a psychic for the same spectrum, each with their own number they are cluing for, they send clues to datisi

then datisi presents both clues without any indication as to which is which, as well as the wavelength spectrum

and then each team has to figure out which clue they believe was given by their teammate and where to place it on the spectrum

and then we can also eliminate the left/right and just give the point each round to whichever team was closest

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:31 am
by gelsomina
In post 278, gelsomina wrote:just give the point each round to whichever team was closest
actually i think maintaining the 1-4 point spectrum is best, but would still eliminate the left/right portion altogether

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 2:35 pm
by Datisi
bump?

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 2:52 pm
by gelsomina
i think it is okay for sirius to lock in left at will; xalxe probably correct in that it is not extreme (< 10) due to being specified as seventh grade as opposed to earlier but that probably moves it from 5 to 15 or maybe(?) even 25 as sirius suggested but the questions themselves seem too trivial for the intended target to possibly be to the right of 40

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:59 am
by gelsomina
i guess i will submit
guess: left

if i am allowed to?
due to deadline

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:09 pm
by Datisi
acknowledged, you are allowed to submit

i will process it in the morning, it's 1am currently and i am not feeling well right now

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 3:34 am
by Datisi
left has been locked in.

card:
low-efforthigh-effort

clue: Solving a few random questions from an American public school seventh grade algebra test

Spoiler: drum roll please...
Image


ermine rainfall's guess of
40
scores 0 points.

eight and a xalxe's guess of
left
scores 1 point!

team eight and a xalxe
[11 points]
  1. Xalxe (pyschic)
  2. Sirius9121
  3. gelsomina (current representative)
  4. northsidegal
  5. GuiltyLion
ermine rainfall
[12 points]
  1. lilith2013
  2. Menalque
  3. Farren
  4. Iconeum
  5. Morning Tweet
  6. lendunistus
sending a card to Xaxle, he may not post until the clue round is over.

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:06 am
by Morning Tweet
Sorry that was too vague!! I was thinking you would put it way too low so I raised the difficulty. I didn't want to get confused with math problems like "2+2" but i took it too far, oups

i was indeed thinking of questions along the lines of what gelsomina posted

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:46 am
by Menalque
is okay morning, I should have figured you maybe meant "difficulty for me in solving them" instead of "difficulty for average person" and didn't think you'd have like a clear idea of exactly what the questions would look like instead of cluing it in a more abstract sense

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:46 am
by Menalque
I feel so cursed in wavelength lmao

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:46 am
by Menalque
as in I enjoy it, but I absolutely suck at it most of the time

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:27 am
by gelsomina
In post 287, Menalque wrote:I feel so cursed in wavelength lmao
In post 288, Menalque wrote:as in I enjoy it, but I absolutely suck at it most of the time
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:40 am
by Datisi
here's the card for
eight and a xalxe
:

easy to killhard to kill


and the clue that your psychic, Xalxe, provided is:
A fly that keeps buzzing around and evading your grasp


your team has (expired on 2021-08-15 18:45:00) to guess where the target is. it’s now up to you to discuss and determine where
A fly that keeps buzzing around and evading your grasp
is on the spectrum from 0 to 100. 0 represents “easy to kill” and 100 represents “hard to kill".

gelsomina
is your team’s current representative. remember to provide your final answer in this format:
guess: x
where x is between 0 and 100.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:05 am
by Menalque
clearly a 10, easy af to hit those little bastards

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:13 am
by GuiltyLion
ooooh this is a fun one

my initial thought is, flies are quite kill-
able
, they are orders of magnitude easier for us to kill than the big bois like Bears, Hippos, Elephants, etc. But they can be hard to kill in the sense that they're quick little fuckers, and I think Xalxe is trying to point us towards that with the additional "evading your grasp" clause. I'd say this is left of 50, my gut instinct is in the upper 20s-30s range, but curious to hear what others think.

I could imagine worlds where this is like 40s-50s if he was focused on how annoying it can be trying to actually kill the damn things, but I wouldn't want to go any higher than 55 as I think by that point you'd be thinking of larger/deadlier things that are actually difficult to kill in a literal sense. You might be running around your kitchen for a bit with a flyswatter but usually you can kill the fly more often than not.

also any time killing flies comes up it makes me think of this throwback

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:08 am
by gelsomina
so step one seems to be to determine where

a fly

would be on the spectrum

and step two would then be to adjust it to be

a fly that does not stop flying and cannot be grasped

which is basically to say

how much harder to kill does a fly become if you need to buy one of those bugzapper things in order to kill it

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:16 am
by gelsomina
okay so

100 would be like, a rock
90 would be like water bears
80 would be like cockroaches (a single cockroach would probably be much lower, but cockroaches as a collective are like, known for surviving)
70 would be xenomorphs
60 would be something mobile that was also dangerous to you as cannot kill if dead
50 would be like something mobile and difficult to kill but not a threat to you
40 would be something immobile but large effort
30 this probably about where the fly would go
20 would be like a snail that is cute so the difficulty would be in never wanting to (though i guess for me that would apply to the entirety of the list so perhaps this is a bad example)
10 would be like mosquito
0 would be like something with extremely short lifespan

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:18 am
by gelsomina
In post 294, gelsomina wrote:30 this probably about where the fly would go
so now how much to adjust based on the effort required to acquire a bugzapper thing

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:19 am
by gelsomina
In post 295, gelsomina wrote:so now how much to adjust based on the effort required to acquire a bugzapper thing
well actually how do we keep the specific fly located while acquiring the bugzapper

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:53 am
by GuiltyLion
I think using your logic 35 feels like a pretty good spot - definitely not Super Low, but not too far either. I'd put a fly in a vacuum at like 20-30 so maybe adjust around 5-10 for evasiveness. I could go as far as 40 perhaps but that's definitely where it starts to feel high to me.

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:54 am
by GuiltyLion
actually eh I could see like 40

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:21 am
by gelsomina
i think 40 feels good-ish to me; i was starting to think about whether trapping the fly by any means would be considered 'grasping' it in order to be able to keep trap of it for long enough for a bugzapper to be shipped and looking into how long that might take and if that would be considered grasping it other means of keeping track of a fly when i realized i should probably take a few small steps back