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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:47 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
no i'm playing mtg with isis

ill solve the game after she blows me up again

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:51 pm
by MURDERCAT
I wanna play :(

I'm bad though, I just make mono white lifegain decks over and over

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:58 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
Image

You can see my scorched body somewhere in there.

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:59 pm
by Bell
I wish I could make rainbow decks.

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:00 pm
by Bell
Now I’m getting the itch but the ranked and box is already too late to climb until next one I think. Sigh

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:00 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
yea too bad the color fixing in ZNR is total trash :(

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:03 pm
by Bell
I just like pretending I can tarot card personality assemble a deck together that s9mehow also wins more than it loses.

I just run mono red in ranked tho because I am a practical human being with practical needs,

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:42 pm
by Fidget
In post 2868, Tayl0r Swift wrote:if i get voted off i wont be passing the scroll to pooky. pooky doesnt get the scroll second.
If you are so sure Pooky is scum, that is 100% what you should do. I find it weird that you wouldn't, because I don't think many other players would give Pooky the scroll for you.

I trust Pooky to be town here. I could see me being incorrect about my Tayl0r read potentially, as LLD's play was probably just going to be generally frustrating for Tayl0r regardless of alignment, I suppose. I almost want to say Noraa is town if Tayl0r is scum.
In post 2801, Noraa wrote:Holy fuck. If you think mush is scum, god you have trash reads. Legit saying im town the moment she repped in was a terrible move if scum cuz it started a huge case on town!me. Plus her play is 100% on point with her town play.
looks at your strongest SR
In post 2814, Noraa wrote:Fidget
Shellyc
Titus
Pooky
Lapsa

from top to bottom, greatest to least
I agree Mush is town for being aligned with her normal town play. The act of defending you itself is not a good argument to locktown someone, but I did like the way Mush did it specifically.

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:57 pm
by shellyc
In post 2785, shellyc wrote:Noraa
UNOwen
Bell
Lapsa
Vaxkiller

explanations when im off work
ok ive got time to type up an explanation
Noraa is a total scumbucket and I think I need say no more
UNO is pretty lacklustre with the only ever engagement each day on my adorable thing which I already explained 1000000 times, and there is really little proactivity ever in there, and trying to maximise cred for noraa bus is exactly whats happening atm
I reread parts of Bell and the ISO although having multiple emotional outbursts... there's not much. It's dominated by a shellyc scumread while being pretty null on much of the list, including pooky/noraa two slots which have a lot to go off with
Lapsa should be policyed asap with their play rn.
Vaxkiller has been really underwhelming and having pretty consensus-y takes when repping in and not injecting new opinions into the game is exactly what a scum repin would do

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:00 pm
by Fidget
In post 2777, Toogeloo wrote:To prepare you all in advance, when I get the first scroll, I'd like everyone's preferred Scroll #2 wielder listed by their top 5 choices, in order. Whether I use this information or not, you will not know.
I uh, see that we're killing Toogeloo, then. I'll get there when I get there.

Kinda wish we'd have killed shelly. Partly sheeping Bell, partly having lots of second thoughts around Noraa and I'm starting to read her confidence in Noraa scum as fake.
In post 2711, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:PEDIT: Noraa... god. Just as I start to townread you again you wreck it /why do you want to derail this wagon so badly just stop/ Toogaloo wants the scroll give 'em the scroll why is this up for debate with the deadline looming THIS CLOSE.
If toog is actively begging for the scroll, it makes me at least slightly inclined to believe he isn't scum. But if there was significant pressure before he became suicidal then fine, it can just be wifom too.
In post 2691, Noraa wrote:Mush agrees toog is town. Mush still thinks toog can have the scroll since he wants it. the plan is good. life is good.
Lol
In post 2684, Titus wrote:This gamestate, maybe this setup, is particularly frustrating. I win by finding and protecting my townreads (despite how tunnely I get, I know its not my best play). This setup makes it hard to do that.

For instance, I heavily lean town on Taylor. By necessity, that means I can only eliminate Pooky in the third position. That's problematic because I don't know Pooky is scum.

The other option is to accept my townread's eventual death but make her second, so she has agency to kill the scum.

Neither is a good option.

This whole setup feels like picking the less bad option.
I'm finding this a bit uncomfortable as well. I want to give Toog my top 5 players I'd elim, but I find it a lot easier to just say the ones I won't give it to.
In post 2649, Noraa wrote:Hey guys so I did a wee bit of pooky meta diving and according to the most recent finished games, scum!Pooky is full of fluff and extremely spammy whereas town!Pooky is only half full of fluff and actually ... rather quiet
I have not noticed this distinction.

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:03 pm
by shellyc
In post 2909, Fidget wrote:I'm starting to read her confidence in Noraa scum as fake.
Why do you think it's fake?

Noraa throwing reads out like candy and basically flailing under pressure of a fake townslip never comes from town, and derailing wagon when we have little time isn't townie at all?

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:09 pm
by Fidget
In post 2910, shellyc wrote:
In post 2909, Fidget wrote:I'm starting to read her confidence in Noraa scum as fake.
Why do you think it's fake?

Noraa throwing reads out like candy and basically flailing under pressure of a fake townslip never comes from town, and derailing wagon when we have little time isn't townie at all?
You of all people should probably be aware of Noraa's volatility. Many of reads are super flaily and poor, but can you really lockscum her for it?

Also, while responding to Noraa's reads, I did notice not all of them were terrible. Her LLD/Murdercat reads were bad, but I suppose that would only make sense for an emotional player such as her. I also found her Adorable/Flea reads unconvincing, but not in a way that makes Noraa obviously scum. I don't know. All of this trying to prove herself as town stuff with the extremely high WIM.. before, I was reading it as confirmation that she is scum, but now I am not so sure.

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:15 pm
by shellyc
In post 2911, Fidget wrote:
In post 2910, shellyc wrote:
In post 2909, Fidget wrote:I'm starting to read her confidence in Noraa scum as fake.
Why do you think it's fake?

Noraa throwing reads out like candy and basically flailing under pressure of a fake townslip never comes from town, and derailing wagon when we have little time isn't townie at all?
You of all people should probably be aware of Noraa's volatility. Many of reads are super flaily and poor, but can you really lockscum her for it?

Also, while responding to Noraa's reads, I did notice not all of them were terrible. Her LLD/Murdercat reads were bad, but I suppose that would only make sense for an emotional player such as her. I also found her Adorable/Flea reads unconvincing, but not in a way that makes Noraa obviously scum. I don't know. All of this trying to prove herself as town stuff with the extremely high WIM.. before, I was reading it as confirmation that she is scum, but now I am not so sure.
Town!noraa's reads are much less flaily and more fleshed out imo

You're probably overthinking this. Why do you now think it might be a towntell for her to prove self as town now, and why did you believe it was a scumtell before?

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:15 pm
by Bell
In post 2910, shellyc wrote:
In post 2909, Fidget wrote:I'm starting to read her confidence in Noraa scum as fake.
Why do you think it's fake?

Noraa throwing reads out like candy and basically flailing under pressure of a fake townslip never comes from town, and derailing wagon when we have little time isn't townie at all?
I dunno what to say about this flail stuff. It’s just not the truth in my opinion. If Noraa is scum it’s not because she flailed, it’s how she flailed.

I think i’ve made my positions if not clear, clear enough.

I’d prefer taylor to the panda bear tbh.
I’m fine with sheeping whatever reads pooky comes up with.

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:17 pm
by Bell
Her first sets of reads were crap as you stated her second sets of reads, less so.

I roughly speaking like where hopkirk’s head is at. But this might just be because i’m curious about the players that haven’t revealed much of themselves yet. Regardless I encourage it.

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:25 pm
by Bell
We are gunna have to solve around lapsa, zdenek and maybe a few others.

This is kind of why I think town hunting is going to be important and not just scum hunting.
without that clock that the town is gunna solve itself if left alone, scum have an excuse to lurk.

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:32 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 117, Noraa wrote:I think Pooky is actually probably town bc he truly thought he found something and I absolutely believe he believes in it
blast from the past

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:32 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 118, Noraa wrote:I think I can roll with a town block of {Noraa, Pooky, Taylor}
lol this is a wild post

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:39 pm
by shellyc
In post 2914, Bell wrote:I roughly speaking like where hopkirk’s head is at. But this might just be because i’m curious about the players that haven’t revealed much of themselves yet. Regardless I encourage it.
why are you. the only person. that sees hopkirk town.

the scumcase on hopkirk is that he's too active? and he can do this as scum? because of his "personality"? and you don't have meta on them?
Mush you'd make a great fanfic writer that's for sure
I'm townreading you but these reads are seriously frustrating

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:39 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
For MurderCatto:

ScumTeam:

Noraa
Taylor
Unowen
Theta Alpine
Vaxkiller

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:40 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I reserve the right to edit that guess in the next couple of days. I was going to do a longer re-read but I only spent like 10 minutes cuz I got distracted by other shit.

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:44 pm
by shellyc
In post 2919, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Noraa
Taylor
Unowen
Theta Alpine
Vaxkiller
pretty decent imo.

elaborate on your theta read? I can't get my head around that slot

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:45 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
his reaction to the initial noraa wagon was shady af

i only re-read like 5 pages of d1

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:07 pm
by Bell
K can we all vote Taylor now. I’m good with today.

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:14 pm
by Bell
In post 2918, shellyc wrote:
In post 2914, Bell wrote:I roughly speaking like where hopkirk’s head is at. But this might just be because i’m curious about the players that haven’t revealed much of themselves yet. Regardless I encourage it.
why are you. the only person. that sees hopkirk town.

the scumcase on hopkirk is that he's too active? and he can do this as scum? because of his "personality"? and you don't have meta on them?
Mush you'd make a great fanfic writer that's for sure
I'm townreading you but these reads are seriously frustrating
I feel like you quoted the wrong post when writing this. Since it sounds like you’re talking to mush.
Also, maybe step back a bit and relax your grip on the game.
Or don’t up to you.