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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:34 am
by DrDolittle
btw im here to engage for the next hour or so before flight takes off.
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:52 am
by Moongrass
In post 2999, DrDolittle wrote: In post 2997, Moongrass wrote:DDL, if Varsoon is a Voyeur, then he only sees actions performed on his target. Not the action the target took...and even then, Creature is a commuter, nothing can target him when he uses the action.
yeah I wonder whether creature is even commuter. Scum-commuter makes little sense imo
so I want to see whether varsoon gets a no result
Varsoon would only get a result if someone else targeted Creature. I will be dead and the only other claimed PR is ascetic. If either PR were lying, they wouldn't use an action on Creature, because Varsoon is targeting him.
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:00 am
by Creature
Varsoon would get no actions performed on Creature or something if I don't commute.
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:04 am
by Moongrass
What would that prove though?
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:04 am
by DrDolittle
no actioon vs no result is different.
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:05 am
by Varsoon
Kinda wish I got Watcher instead of Voyeur because then I could soft-protect Moongrass tonight and draw the kill to myself.
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:06 am
by DrDolittle
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=No_result
I think if creature is scum... he's not a commuter.
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:13 am
by DrDolittle
i really think this is the right play. L4feedback
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:15 am
by Moongrass
Yes, but if Varsoon checks Creature when he's not commuting, then what is he really checking? But, I think I get it. Varsoon can't target Creature when he's commuting, so he'll get "no-result" instead of "no action performed," or something.
@Varsoon: will you target creature tonight?
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:25 am
by Varsoon
Thought we were lynching Creature today.
But yeah if we hit scum today then I'll check Creature because then I should get no result and there should be a kill.
Scum'll have to kill you since you're follower and would clear someone as town to hit them so Creature can't gambit on a no-kill and only commute if he's scum.
So I'd be aight with that but we really need to hit scum.
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:26 am
by Moongrass
@DDL: why mbaki over Oka?
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:28 am
by Varsoon
I'd take Oka before Mbaki or DDL at this point.
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:30 am
by Moongrass
In post 3009, Varsoon wrote:Thought we were lynching Creature today.
But yeah if we hit scum today then I'll check Creature because then I should get no result and there should be a kill.
Scum'll have to kill you since you're follower and would clear someone as town to hit them so Creature can't gambit on a no-kill and only commute if he's scum.
So I'd be aight with that but we really need to hit scum.
I'm not sure what you mean. Why would Creature do the killing if there's two scum left? Why would a commuter be scum in this set-up?
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:30 am
by DrDolittle
force creature to commute today or get lynched tomorrow
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:32 am
by Moongrass
UNVOTE: I'll be away for a bit.
DDL, why not Oka?
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:52 am
by DrDolittle
I think oka creature can be solved partially tomorrow via varsoon checking creature. So I dont even want to touch these two for now. What we need to know is how mbaki dolittle plays out. Sets town up in a way better position.
Plus, I scumread creature a tad more than oka I think
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:53 am
by DrDolittle
Because oka could have hammered me easily when I'm l minus 1, and oka mbaki doesnt make sense. And I cant see oka scum making that manifesto on varsoon when there are easier lunches to push
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:28 am
by Creature
*tonight
Sure, I'll do.
I wouldn't want to be present in 3p LyLo anyway.
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:29 am
by Creature
In post 3015, DrDolittle wrote:I think oka creature can be solved partially tomorrow via varsoon checking creature. So I dont even want to touch these two for now.
Good luck lynching scum then
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:30 am
by Creature
At the risk of being outed tomorrow plus clear me?
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:31 am
by Creature
We're not lynching Moongrass. Varsoon and I should be left to resolve each other. Oka will be resolvable through my alignment.
That'd leave you (DDL), Kmd and mbaki.
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:32 am
by Creature
I don't think you're scum rn DDL, so today's lynch is between Kmd and mbaki.
Take your pick.
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:46 am
by mbaki
Marvelous.
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:03 am
by mbaki
There are 17 hours. I am fine with us doing Oka if a DDL lynch isn't happening.
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:05 am
by Creature
In post 3015, DrDolittle wrote:I think oka creature can be solved partially tomorrow via varsoon checking creature. So I dont even want to touch these two for now. brah brah brah brah brah brah. brah brah brah.
Plus, I scumread creature a tad more than oka I think