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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:40 pm
by House
In post 2998, Dannflor wrote:I'm not sure if House actually thinks this or if like this is scum doing an exaggerated impression of what they think town should think

probably doesn't help I'm nearly as lost as pooky

the assumption that there is ever a scenario where scum let gamma get results if they have a choice is just really weird?? when does scum ever just let an investigation go off?

now i will admit i am still weirded out by the lld kill and the worst's continued survival but I don't feel "there's a guilty on murdercat" is really the most obvious train of logic from that?
Yeah.

I left Gamma alive so he could be mislimmed today, and I'm calling for him to be left alive and Mcat limmed instead because... ?

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:43 pm
by Gorkington
i think kazyan's worldview rn is a lot more artificial and constructed to give me an answer i wanted whereas megazu felt like they outlined where their headspace was at in a way i liked.
unwnd has been uncompromising in a way that feels kind of genuine, though i'd be interested to see what the duck has to say about his paranoia on him,
gamma is hard to follow but being difficult in a way that consistently puts himself in more high pressure situations than he needs to be in.

im at a place where i wouldnt hate trying to push for a kazyan wagon even if im not incredibly confident about it.

p-edit: i feel like we're at the start of the game again reparsing house for weird comments and im hoping it eventually just swings back around into that place where it seemed like he was just town.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:44 pm
by House
In post 3001, Gorkington wrote:p-edit: i feel like we're at the start of the game again reparsing house for weird comments and im hoping it eventually just swings back around into that place where it seemed like he was just town.
I'm never "just town".

The only way to reliably read me is through familiarity with my weird ass ways.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:47 pm
by Dannflor
okay but like I can't keep thinking this with everyone in the game

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:48 pm
by Dannflor
it's not house that's bugging me specifically I think

it's just I've come to that conclusion for an uncomfortably high number of people this game it feels and some of it has to not be genuine I feel

house probably still is town but I feel like I can't just take it for granted

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:49 pm
by unwnd
I think if there was somewhere I wanted to be wrong I guess it would be on Kaz

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:50 pm
by unwnd
And if Kaz flips scum then like cool I'm cleared and I've been wrong on Gamma the whole time

I guess that begs the question why we didn't do this yesterday but

Whatever

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:51 pm
by House
I don't understand why Gork seems to be having trouble sorting me.

I'd think that he's seen enough of my town games to know that I'm loud, obnoxious, and abrasive as town, and a bit more congenial as scum (to avoid the very scrutiny I don't care about as town).

I mean, yeah, it's been years and all, but... yeah.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:53 pm
by Gorkington
House wrote:The only way to reliably read me is through familiarity with my weird ass ways.
what kind of stuff does your ass do that makes it easier to read you
Dannflor wrote:it's not house that's bugging me specifically I think

it's just I've come to that conclusion for an uncomfortably high number of people this game it feels and some of it has to not be genuine I feel

house probably still is town but I feel like I can't just take it for granted
its less taking it for granted and more going with your headspace.
who is most likely to be mafia in your eyes right now?
its probably easier to focus on that then getting stuck in a quagmire trying to parse all of the weirdness with any kind of confidence.

p-edit: i mean yeah the no lim sucked.
kind of wish i had this headspace during D2 but cant really control those kind of things i guess.

pp-edit: i dont think ive ever seen a scumgame of yours, my memory is terrible and i dont think ive been particularly direct about my read on you here?
do you think i should townread you for the way you opened today?

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:54 pm
by Dannflor
I mean Kazyan as scum makes an LLD kill make kinda sense?

it's like weirdly obvious and still kinda ???????? but like there has to be a *reason* for the kill and I think if you want a kill that's just not gonna shift the status quo without getting blocked there are better targets

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:55 pm
by the worst
In post 2878, Gamma Emerald wrote:I got no result
VOTE: gamm cya nerd

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:55 pm
by Gorkington
lol.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:55 pm
by the worst
i'm a rolestopper not a doc

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:56 pm
by House
In post 3008, Gorkington wrote:pp-edit: i dont think ive ever seen a scumgame of yours, my memory is terrible and i dont think ive been particularly direct about my read on you here?
do you think i should townread you for the way you opened today?
I think you've been around long enough to know that actions and appearances don't mean much, and motives are far more indicative of scum than a brash statement or 500.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:57 pm
by unwnd
Well shit

Duckie you scared me

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:57 pm
by House
In post 3010, the worst wrote:
In post 2878, Gamma Emerald wrote:I got no result
VOTE: gamm cya nerd
In post 3012, the worst wrote:i'm a rolestopper not a doc
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Rolestopper

Learn a little something.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:58 pm
by House
@TW you just made Gamma ascetic, you didn't stop HIS role.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:58 pm
by the worst
exactly. so what stopped his result? :P

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:59 pm
by Gorkington
i said im not townreading you right now.
you were gone for understandable reasons and my initial read faded as my reads tend to do when i dont have something to directly hold on to in front of me.

if i had said "wow house is a scumbutt" i would get the apprehension here but i dont really understand why youre making a big deal out of me not having found the one thing youve done today town.

p-edit: gamma cant have been blocked by a roleblocker if he was rolestopped.
heh.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:59 pm
by Dannflor
hey so wait if unwnd was rolestopped on the same night gamma investigated unwnd, shouldn't he have gotten no result? why wasn't this outted yesterday?

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:59 pm
by unwnd
In post 3019, Dannflor wrote:hey so wait if unwnd was rolestopped on the same night gamma investigated unwnd, shouldn't he have gotten no result? why wasn't this outted yesterday?
Oh nevermind you're scaring me again

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:59 pm
by the worst
rolestopper not roleblocker

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:59 pm
by House
In post 3018, Gorkington wrote:i said im not townreading you right now.
you were gone for understandable reasons and my initial read faded as my reads tend to do when i dont have something to directly hold on to in front of me.

if i had said "wow house is a scumbutt" i would get the apprehension here but i dont really understand why youre making a big deal out of me not having found the one thing youve done today town.

p-edit: gamma cant have been blocked by a roleblocker if he was rolestopped.
heh.
Doesn't mean Mcat can't be acetic, though.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:59 pm
by Dannflor
I guess it like doesn't really matter but I'm trying to get better at m e c h a n i c s here

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:00 pm
by unwnd
Worst why were you just afk all of yesterday and why are you not going 'hmm shit LLD was town' at the very least?