A Roccisi Winter - Game Over

[TDC]

Prodding tubby216

[tubby216]

cobalt

it may be worth it

[tubby216]

vote: cobalt

[Cobalt]

lol no

vote tubby

[Nicodemus]

Just went through Sopi in ISO:

First of all, it looks to me that about 90% of Sopi's activity D1 was trying to get Benmage lynched. She hardly mentions anyone else, unless they have some direct relation to the Benmage lynch.

Excerpts from her catchup post:

Neopi seems not to be doing anything himself, but repeatedly calls for more scumhunting. He doesn't even point any fingers as to who's responsible for the lack of scumhunting, he just deflects suspicion first off tate/DN, then Cobalt, all the while buddying up to Starbuck by mentioning how happy he is to play with her again. Post 292 is laughable as a defense. Post 312 is ridiculous logic (not to mention the annoying use of "scummeh" which makes me want to curb stomp a kitten).

There's a lot more room on this wagon, I'm sure more of you would be welcome.

Sop promises to jump on the Neopi wagon, but never does.

ortolan seems to be concentrating more on antagonizing Adel and Ecto, the main drives behind his wagon, than making a logical and clear counterargument to their points. Instead of calling Adel's logick crappy, why not show how it is crappy? Claiming that what Adel says is a contradiction is, in fact, not a contradiction isn't really a counterargument in the strictest sense.

Ortolan coaching? I can't believe that scum would have to do this in a game where they can day talk though.

Wow vanilla claim from tubby pre-reveals/actions.

Why hasn't his lynch happened?

Why hasn't his wagon restarted on Day 2? I'm a little bit shocked that no-one at all seems to have pursued that case as of yet,

not even opportunistic scum.

Am I the only one who is amused by this?

Tying up a town vote on a non-lynch wagon close to deadline -> poor play, allows scum votes to push wagons further than they should go. Someone shoot Korts.

It's not like you can't lynch me, we have unlimited lynches per day. You're the one trying to tie up the vig here kthx

Ahh...so you

know

that scum's kill didn't go through last night and you believe the killer of Anna was unlikely to be an SK even though a dead mafia turned up with a Vig role?

How does that even make sense?

And what do you want me to explain?

You're blaming the sole kill on a vig. How do you know scum didnt make the kill? how do you know, that if it wasnt scum, that it was a vig and not an SK?

Good catch by Ecto here.

Korts. Kortskortskorts.

You haven't had any real interaction with most players since Benmage was lynched. You've hopped on wagons when asked to and have been complacent, remaining active long enough to remind us that you've been inactive. Your suspicions, cases, and questions have been reactionary ("why aren't you voting for me, Nuwen?"), but I've yet to see you break down pieces of the game and pursue them unprovoked. You could be bored town, you could be lurking scum. You're a liability and are less connected to other players than any other slot in the game. You need to die before endgame.

I guess you're right, Nuwen. I've become terminally bored with mafia, and I'm just wasting a role slot. I refuse to sift through 94 pages of drivel, I have a dozen better uses for that kind of time.

I also find your accusation a bit ironic, since you have been relatively passive too.

Imma ask for replacement, although I'm sure the poor idiot who subs in for me will just be lynched.

Apologizes to known scum for wasting a slot. Seems more like Nuwen was pressuring Sopi into replacing out than anything. And, while I understand that Nuwen would be doing her best to look town, why would scumNuwen care if there was a wasted player slot? Lurking, disinterested town is always easier to lynch than active, involved town. I can really only see these words coming from scum if the recipient is scum as well.

Elvis' posts look fairly townish however, minus the confusion over the neighborhood-track/watch-of-ortolan-that-supposedly-convicted-him-but-then-didn't-but-then-ortolan-was-scum-anyway-so-it-doesn't-matter issue, which I still don't understand.

I don't know, I think I'd rather lynch Elvis over tubby, but if group consensus is tubby then I'll leave my vote there.

[Cobalt]

I don't know, I think I'd rather lynch Elvis over tubby, but if group consensus is tubby then I'll leave my vote there.

*twitch*

[Nicodemus]

I don't know, I think I'd rather lynch Elvis over tubby, but if group consensus is tubby then I'll leave my vote there.

*twitch*

Yeah, I know, but it's true. I think Elvis is more likely scum than tubby, but that doesn't make tubby town by any means. I have no problem with lynching tubby over elvis because there is enough going for tubbyscum to let me keep my vote there.

*WARNING: ANOTHER THING THAT COULD BE READ AS SCUMMY AHEAD*

If both tubby and elvis flip town then I have absolutely no problem with being lynched next.

Link to another game where I hammered someone who I felt less sure of being scum than another player, as town: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=13360

[elvis_knits]

I'm on board for tubby

[Ellibereth]

Vote: tubby

Vote: End Day

[Ectomancer]

vote end day

[Nicodemus]

Vote: End Day

[TDC]

Lynch Count #1

tubby216 (4): Ectomancer, Nicodemus, Cobalt, Ellibereth

Cobalt (1): tubby216

tubby216 has been lynched.
Deadline is in 33 hours and ten minutes.

[TDC]

Won't be around near deadline (4 hours from now). In fact, might take a day or so.
Sorry for the inconvenience.

[TDC]

Lynch

tubby216, Townie, Florence Street, Town

:

• Active Abilities:
  • none
• Passive Abilities:
  • none
• Groups:
  • Florence Street Neighbourhood:
    • classified
• Victory Condition: You win when all anti-town forces are eliminated.

Actions

Everybody still alive.

Status

Day 9. 5 alive,3 to lynch, Tuesday, March 16th 0:30 CET

[Ectomancer]

vote Cobalt

[Cobalt]

vote Cobalt

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we're lynching nico today

[Ellibereth]

Result?

[Cobalt]

eh? we gave you our watch again

[Ellibereth]

eh? we gave you our watch again

Right hehehe.
I'm slow, why is Nico scum?

[Cobalt]

nico, you implied suspicion of Ecto as SK yesterday, but not overtly and you didn't vote him. Why?
nico, you proposed that we do multiple lynches in one day when we have no kills occuring and several information sources working per night. Why?

[Cobalt]

eh? we gave you our watch again

Right hehehe.
I'm slow, why is Nico scum?

soc had some odd interactions with ortolan and plum
I don't like soc talking about going along with the tate case even though he thought tate flaking was a town tell
gut

[Cobalt]

vote nico

[Ectomancer]

Wow.

I've never played a game that has dragged out quite as uselessly as this one has. Would you people get off your ass and post something? I'm really getting tired of this.

[Nicodemus]

nico, you implied suspicion of Ecto as SK yesterday, but not overtly and you didn't vote him. Why?

Because I'm still not convinced that ecto is a vig, and I don't think that anything he says will convince me. However, I am almost completely positive that he is not mafia, so there is no point in lynching him now as he is still beneficial to the town.

nico, you proposed that we do multiple lynches in one day when we have no kills occuring and several information sources working per night. Why?

I was under the impression that all information sources have been tapped to their fullest. Also, I am not totally convinced either of the mafia's lack of kills or ecto's pro-townness, and lynching multiple people in one day would remove the risk of either of those situations resulting in bad things for town.

Anyway, I still think E_K is the best bet for scum, so I'm going to

Vote: elvis

[Cobalt]

Because I'm still not convinced that ecto is a vig, and I don't think that anything he says will convince me. However, I am almost completely positive that he is not mafia, so there is no point in lynching him now as he is still beneficial to the town.

If you think he isn't vig, you must think he's SK. And if he's SK, he is extremely likely to be bulletproof like he said- so as long as there's only 1 mafia left he wins in endgame. If there's 2 mafia left he has to shoot one of them, but otherwise no, he's not beneficial.

I was under the impression that all information sources have been tapped to their fullest. Also, I am not totally convinced either of the mafia's lack of kills or ecto's pro-townness, and lynching multiple people in one day would remove the risk of either of those situations resulting in bad things for town.

we have me and elvis's track and watch available, plus whatever elli's gang is doing.
If you think Ecto is a bulletproof SK, why are you voting Elvis?