In post 3059, thezmon221 wrote:What kind of posts are you reading? I never implied you're scum. I think you're delusional and useless town.
YES!
Town, I saved you. Thank me later. LOL! this is great
He just literally lied because he can't keep track of his opinions that are displayed in his posts. Lets look at this gem right here:
In post 3042, thezmon221 wrote:1) You know who doesn't have reads that change after flips (especially two flips)? Scum. Scum doesn't need to change their reads. Your case on Nacho is exactly the same as it was D1: Crap.
This is Thezmon's argument:
1) Bacde does A
2) Scum do A
3 (assumption) Town is much less likely to do A
4) (inference/implication) Bacde is scum
Yet he denies it.
Sheep Bacde. Scumhunting made easy.
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Possible Objections: But you inserted the assumption that town is much less likely to do A! Maybe thezmon doesn't actually think that!
Counter-argument: If thezmon actually doesn't have that assumption, then why did he even include the "You know who does A? Scum do A" part of his post? I can't imagine a town making that statement without the intention of implying that I am scum.
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:03 am
by Nero Cain
I agree with Bcade here. In some game I pegged JasonT for implying that some player was scum. I wasn't voting 'cause I was waiting to see something. (ongoing) Though KK is right, the amount of fail town posting on this site is high. But I can agree to this if we are gonna kill Haylen scum after.
vote:Thezmon
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:12 am
by PeregrineV
Monday post. No catching up during the night, so it will have to be this week.
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:44 am
by EddieFenix
Vote Thezmon
Ok Bacde, I'll bite on your case.
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:51 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 2916, Cephrir wrote:AA9: Big long readpost with no mention of RR into vote RR seems weirder now but she's still town.
No mention of RR? Are you kidding, RR is the first person I have voted after my catch up. I said she is SCUM, please ISO me again and tell if you don't find it. I was so sure on RR and she completely ignored my accusations. Infact I supported khan's read on RR to lynch RedRyu yesterday...
The worst part of this game is Bcade who don't stop posting fluff.... and i am not suprised not everone reading everyone's post here.
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:14 am
by Bacde
In post 3154, ArcAngel9 wrote:The worst part of this game is Bcade who don't stop posting fluff.... and i am not suprised not everone reading everyone's post here.
Lol AA9 is obviously scum
why else is she motivated to say that I'm posting fluff when I've got a rock-solid case?
lol this is a whole lot of words that can basically be summed up to say "oh shit I messed up"
I've gone through the whole "you suck you're useless look elsewhere for scum" song and dance before, it was when I was scum and absta101 was SURE that I was scum. And I said it to absta101
No, its never been debated that "useless town" is synonymous with scum. Also, I'm not useless. I have a scum in my grip and I'm about to squeeze
Firstly, my post has nothing to do with what you said in the first statement. Try again.
Secondly... umm... yeah. useless town and scum can be rather synonymous to one another.
In post 3076, Bacde wrote:
ok, what about my point of nacho tunneling on OS was shitty (it was objectively shitty, OS was town)
what about my point of nacho having shitty reads?
what about my point of nacho not believing in the pushes that he's been making?
what about my point of how you are clearly nacho's scumbuddy?
these are all in ADDITION to the meta I've got on nacho
and how about how you ADMITTED that I had two good points (see the spoiler appendix)? Why would you admit that I have two good points, and then reduce my case to meta and say that its shitty and that I have no points?
Now I have a question for you: What were the two good points that I made? Since they were obviously not meta if you thought they were good: you clearly think meta is bad.
1. Nacho didn't even really tunnel him after the fiasco at the beginning of the day. And sure you can make it seem worse now after you've seen the flip. Otherwise it's a poor point.
2. Just because you don't agree quite as much with his reads doesn't necessarily make them bad. However, I do know that I didn't like a lot of his reads.
3. But he did believe in the reads that he did push. Did you read his posts or submit to confirmation bias?
4. Go ahead and make that point. That's only speculation. The fact that I don't think he's scum, however, can't even prove that we are "obviously scumbuddies" without a flip.
When did I ever object that I didn't like those two points? I don't think you see the picture here. I said you had two good points, yes, but you have to look at the big picture. When your case is riddled with as much meta as yours was, it lacks that credibility in my eyes. I didn't vote for him because I read your meta read, and then I read his posts, and confirmed he was town. Notice when I voted OS, I supplied what another had as a summation of a case against him which had at least 5 pretty solid points.
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:22 am
by mastin2
Fifty-eighth Votecount
:
(Sixth Votecount Day Two,
AKA, the "Mastin compensates for lack of modding talent with flavor" votecount.
)
thezmon221 - 5 (Bacde, Desperado, Kublai Khan, Nero Cain, EddieFenix)
Haylen - 3 (Cephrir, Om the Destroyer, penguin_alien)
In post 3154, ArcAngel9 wrote:The worst part of this game is Bcade who don't stop posting fluff.... and i am not suprised not everone reading everyone's post here.
Lol AA9 is obviously scum
why else is she motivated to say that I'm posting fluff when I've got a rock-solid case?
ON Nacho? then why he hasn't got lynced yet?
see the problem, you're so blinded with yourself and you're not open to see that this is 21 player team games which makes at least 6-7 scum (alternatives).. And for the sake of god, just stop your obession. Nacho dies when the time comes... and everyone thinks he is scum. At this moment, they are better lynch candidates...
Why are not voting DESPO, after all you wanted to vote him yesterday too...
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:47 am
by thezmon221
No, AA9, he's referring to his "rock-solid" case on me.
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:52 am
by ArcAngel9
^ According to him even his case on me is "Rock Solid" which is practically "Nothing"
He just want to lynch people...
In post 3160, ArcAngel9 wrote:ON Nacho? then why he hasn't got lynced yet?
see the problem, you're so blinded with yourself and you're not open to see that this is 21 player team games which makes at least 6-7 scum (alternatives).. And for the sake of god, just stop your obession. Nacho dies when the time comes... and everyone thinks he is scum. At this moment, they are better lynch candidates...
Err no you should read the case on thezmon
sorry I'm super frustrated right now but thezmon is scum and I've got a good case on him
just read the new thezmon case and then vote for thezmon
I didn't realize that you were talking about my case on nacho, which is understandable that you don't want to follow it
SORRY SORRY SORRY!
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:51 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 3079, Thor665 wrote:6. This is also true. Except you should add 'with Mollie, as usual, twisting reality - and then claiming someone else is twisting reality.' Like we've been doing.
Why do scum lie? Because they can get away with it?
In post 3088, Bacde wrote:Seriously how is nacho capable of missing my case on thezmon?
Because you can be very mean to me sometimes and my feelings are very hurt.
In post 3089, Thor665 wrote:It's gut at the moment, he feels like he's legit working, not fake working.
How? What posts look the happiest to you?
In post 3089, Thor665 wrote:She lies about things she's done to avoid explaining them and fakes emotional breakdowns as town?
Links to any examples?
That's not at all what I work with because I form my reads differently. Mollie-scum v Nacho town: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=25914
Mollie-sympathetic to scum third party v Nacho town:
viewtopic.php?f=83&t=27515
And whereas I can't peg the head of Majiffy, I sure as hell can see and read scum fferyllt. Sometimes oh yeah she does refuse to explain emotional breakdowns, see Posh Mafia (the last one) when she gets insanely paranoid of me. She was like "yeah, never gonna get you lynched, we're done ".
But really, I want you to look at the difference between her scumgame and her towngame. And if you don't see it, I'm actually just going to lynch you because jesus fucking christ. Lying, refusing to explain emotional breakdowns, that's different in an audio game. My face to face game is not at all like these beautiful written words; my metas are not reflections.
So sell me that what you know of her is better than what I know of her. What happened in Mainstream Mafia? Did Mollie lie a lot? Was she aggressive as fuck? Did she take a hard lead as a cult leader? Or did Majiffy shut her up and control the game himself. You failed to accept Majiffy's reachouts, why?
In post 3089, Thor665 wrote:don't really have a legit town read on you.
I have a 'I don't think his bad play is proof he's scum' read on you.
But I'm willing to see the links you'll show me.
Welp if I'm good enough to be left alive for another day you'll work with me so we can avoid our retard fights in the future.
In post 3093, Desperado wrote:Yeah I can see that. What is the your #1 reason for AKscum?
the she feels more passive than usual even though we should've touched bases, we should've been getting scum together by now
her reads are janky as fuck; her reads on me and oversoul were fairly strange and she backed off, jumped on at a WEIRD time
Probably something like 20 times and I didn't really like any of them.
In post 3112, Nero Cain wrote:I also want to chime in about the Mollie slot. Mollie gets constantly read as scum and Jiffy knows it. In this game (link below) Ma Jiffy put a leash on Mollie to avoid suspicion. Bacde already brought up the fact that they could be switching their meta around to fool us.
that's not how meta works nero
In post 3165, Bacde wrote:I didn't realize that you were talking about my case on nacho, which is understandable that you don't want to follow it
Vote: thezmon
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:11 am
by Seanald
In post 2900, Bulbazak wrote:Who do you think is scum based off of Syryana's reads?
sorry for taking so long to get back to this, or even in the game. real life is kicking my ass.
anyway, Cephir would be the top one, I didn't notice too much interaction between him and red ryu day 1, but coming into the beginning of day 2, Cephir exclusively focuses on who Red Ryu's partners would be, I think this is an obvious and easy tactic for scum to try and use, and inadvertently or oppositely gives all the "red Ryu interaction" one needs to form a read on who his partner could be. So with Syrana scum reading Red hard, as well as Cephir hard and no one scum reading Syr, I think we got another member of blue here.
VOTE: Cephrir
catching up now, still got a few pages to go.
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:14 am
by Bacde
lol thor plz sheep nacho kthx
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:15 am
by Bacde
In post 3166, Nachomamma8 wrote:Because you can be very mean to me sometimes and my feelings are very hurt.
No thats true
sorry man
I'd rather be friends with you but its tough when you ignore me
it hurts my feelings more than words ever could
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:16 am
by Bacde
I've made some of my best friends on this website while they were stabbing me in the back man
you don't have to ignore people just because they are onto you
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:23 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 3170, Bacde wrote:I've made some of my best friends on this website while they were stabbing me in the back man
you don't have to ignore people just because they are onto you
Game is Game
and friends are friends.. Please dont mix things up. I personally like you very much. and you know that already..don't you?
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:23 am
by ArcAngel9
and btw. I will check on your case about Thez!! will post my opinion in a bit.
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