↑Aneninen wrote:If Vertigo's telling the truth (and I can't see a reason for not doing so), Marshawn is scum as f-ck.
Vertigo. Read back. I simply chose between you and Willow because of the Deadline. I examined both of you to find out who's scummier. I posted in a separate post that it was an L–1 so as to prevent a derphammer.
If your claim is real and Crab's not lying there must be a scum Roleblocker or something like that or else there'd be a "Follow the Cop" gamebreak.
What the fuck did you want me to do?
Intent to hammer? Tell Vertigo to claim? Set up a pigeon loft? Whatever but derphammering.
↑Whomping Willow wrote:Others ( ):
The Light, Aneninen, Kagamine,
Not true.
That was about our votes. We were on vanity wagons.
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:16 am
by Aneninen
↑Vertigo wrote:so explain to me how you decided to vote ME. she has done nothing protown at all, and I have, and have not done something bad. basically based your vote on the thought that he is pine.
He IS Pine. He slipped. And yes, my vote was based upon that info.
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:34 am
by shos
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Vertigo was a
TOWN
???.
Night 1 has started. Night deadline is in (expired on 2015-02-14 19:35:33).
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:56 am
by shos
Night is over by scum decision. any actions not taken so far will be no-action.
I will open the day in a few hours.
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:11 am
by shos
Night 1 has ended.
TheLight
, the
TOWN
Role Blocker, has been killed.
MarshanLynch24
, the
TOWN
VT, has been killed.
It is now Day 2.
There are 10 people alive. 6 votes are needed for a lynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2015-03-01 00:11:11)
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:17 am
by HeadsAndTails
VOTE: Whomping Willow
Also probably an SK this game, because of the two kills.
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:19 am
by Crabalocker
VOTE: Whomping Willow
There's probably a Scum RB, or else there'd be a follow the cop game break thing.
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:20 am
by Whomping Willow
Marshawn looks like a vig shot, why do you assume SK
VOTE: HeadsAndTails
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:20 am
by Whomping Willow
Marshawn looks like a vig shot, why do you assume SK
VOTE: HeadsAndTails
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:20 am
by Whomping Willow
↑Crabalocker wrote:VOTE: Whomping Willow
There's probably a Scum RB, or else there'd be a follow the cop game break thing.
That Marshawn kill could mean anything.
Could be a Vig kill.
Could be an SK kill.
Could be a scum kill if there are more scum factions – and the name of the game suggests this version.
HeadsAndTails: why do you think it was an SK shot?
Crabalocker: I don't think we have enough information for speculating about a Setup, especially since it's a bastard.
Willow: why do you think it was a Vig shot?
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:16 pm
by HeadsAndTails
↑Whomping Willow wrote:Marshawn looks like a vig shot, why do you assume SK
VOTE: HeadsAndTails
didn't think about vig. and why the vote on me? want to keep your successful mislynch streak up?
↑Aneninen wrote:
Could be a scum kill if there are more scum factions – and the name of the game suggests this version.
HeadsAndTails: why do you think it was an SK shot?
I don't think so; the rules say:
Nights will last as long as scum want them to. This means that nights might end before they started, or within 1 hour, or within 6 days.
So if this was multiple factions, it would be impossible. so I think there's only one scum faction; so probably either vig or SK.
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:44 pm
by Gutenberg
Thoughts:
I wouldn't be comfortable speculating as to where either shot came from - in fact, neither makes much sense from an actual scumteam, as either could pretty easily have been run up today.
I wonder if this is one of those bastard games where there is no informed minority.
Personally I'd speculate that the name of the game is more due to the fact that this is shos' second alts-only game, but idk.
I really don't think shos would court the danger of 2 RBs, even in a bastard setup.
Given that this is a bastard game, and given the ?? in the D1 flip, I'll repeat that I'm taking every mod-spoken word with a grain of salt.
Vote: Mr Unlucky
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:46 pm
by Gutenberg
INAUFTA worries me with how below the radar he is also, but Mr Unlucky has held his counsel for far too long.
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:42 pm
by INAUFTA
Can someone give evidence pointing to WW being Pine, or everyone can drop that thing.
Pine was Not Mastin (emails match), and whatever else doesn't matter.
[vpte]Aneninen[/vote]
I'm still suspicious of that post last time, and the vote can therefore sit back there until I figure out stuff people that will get actually work with other people.
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 7:40 pm
by Kagamine
VOTE: willow
So, it was surprising that Marshawn wasn't scum.
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 7:41 pm
by Kagamine
What is a ???
I thought that Vertigo was a cop. Psh, bastard games
I thought that Vertigo was a cop. Psh, bastard games
Fake
VOTE: Kagamine
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:11 am
by Aneninen
↑INAUFTA wrote:Can someone give evidence pointing to WW being Pine, or everyone can drop that thing.
Pine was Not Mastin (emails match), and whatever else doesn't matter.
[vpte]Aneninen[/vote]
I'm still suspicious of that post last time, and the vote can therefore sit back there until I figure out stuff people that will get actually work with other people.
I thought that 43 and 44 belonged together. While I was catching up with the game I saw that someone had been mentioned that Pine = Willow.
If I'm wrong about this, please, point it out, why. Because if so, my Pine-read is worth pigeon poop.
Also, fix your vote tag. ^_^
For those who're voting for Willow: can you summarize your case against him? (Regardless of whether he's Pine or not.)
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:07 am
by Cursive
Well Re-evaluing
based on today alone HT and Gutenburg look towny for trying to figure out the game/setup
My bruised ego wants Vertigo to be scum and the ?? flip to be some sort of death miller role
But I was more likey just dumb
Gonna assume Vertigo was town And figure out if WillowCompetingWagon was on scum or if Both wagons were on town
Unlucky and Kagamine are good places to start to figure out
↑HeadsAndTails wrote:So, anyone on the wagon on crabalocker wants to explain how and why that wagon happened, and why we practically made the town doctor claim still in RVS?
↑HeadsAndTails wrote:So, anyone on the wagon on crabalocker wants to explain how and why that wagon happened, and why we practically made the town doctor claim still in RVS?
↑Vertigo wrote:WW, you have 23 posts, all are one-liners, the longest is 11 words, and the only mention of me is "N0 guilty on vertigo" when there wasn't even a N0.
↑Vertigo wrote:WW, you have 23 posts, all are one-liners, the longest is 11 words, and the only mention of me is "N0 guilty on vertigo" when there wasn't even a N0.
↑Cursive wrote:Anyway Marshawn showed a tiny tiny bit of re-evalution on Crabalocker
going from Claim = ConfirmedScum to MaybeClaimTooBad MaybeUnvote
Which is decent Shows doubt in your read
So does this make you think he's town or scum? this can be taken either way.
↑Aneninen wrote:Knowing about Whomping Willow's main, I can tell this: I've already seen his scumplay and it was very different. Contentless, yes, but with less frequent posts and more content-looking objects.
mark to self: if WW is scum, lynch aneninen. This is an unrefutable and unprovable claim in this game, and well really that ISO is really bad.
I'll join this one actually. WW doesn't look like he's trying to do anything but piss vertigo, and it's 2 days to deadline. Town wouldn't do that.
↑HeadsAndTails wrote:@Cursive 240: yes I'm backing him up. As far as I can tell, he is the most townie persona in the game, and his push on willow is completely legitimate, ISO willow.
@Aneninen 245: why would you be dead?
@Gutenbeeg 249: how can you ask me for content when a person like WW exists, AND vote neutger of us nearing deadline, in favor of a nonexistent wagon?
why am I town, and why am I the "most townie persona in the game"? and 100% agreed for the last line.
I find it suspicious that Kagamine did not cast a vote.
{Kagamine, Fault, Whomping Willow} for scumteam, remember I called it first
Scum scum interaction
↑Whomping Willow wrote:I just said why. And it wasn't omgus, I was already scumreading him, I already explained this.
↑Whomping Willow wrote:Vertigo and Whomping Willow are the only viable lynches, anyone not voting one of them should be.
Hint: Vote Vertigo he's scum
Sure, I can even not-summarize my case against willow.
Basically, it is the same case as Vertigo had said.
Take a look at Willow's ISO. there's 42 posts in there; you'd expect there to also be content, right?
wrong.
Just go through the ISO. I was going to say something like 'in his first X posts, he basically does nothing', but then the ISO ends, you see?
post 78, the 7th in the ISO, is the first post that one may actually claim that is not just a heap of nothing. Don't make the mistake of thinking that this post is NOT a one-liner - it IS - but it also has two quotes, so it looks like a post with some volume. his RVS post was a crab vote, which in that post he just quoted him and said 'omg real scum'.
then there's four posts with "good" "bad" "!" and "." (literally!), and a blantant refusal to actually talk. up until now - all one liners, yea? yea.
post 182 (his 17th(!!!) post) is the first post that actually has content, saying that he doesn't believe the doc claim. another 'no' post. Then there's the first time someone says that WW is doing nothing, and the first time WW answers with 'nana banana'.
AND THEN, FINALLY....vertigo starts attacking him, in post 216. It doesn't make any sense, I really don't get it, how of all this *VERTIGO* was the one who got lynched. I mean FFS, guys, there's precisely one person who actually does any scumhunting and you lynch him. This *HAS* to be because scum pushed that wagon. can anyone even tell me why they were voting vertigo?
by post 217, voth INAUFTA, Crabalocker, and vertigo have called WW for his active lurking.
in post 220, immediately after being voted by vertigo, he omgus's and starts calling vertigo scum with the excusation that "I was already scumreading you"(this is another one liner, post 223).
in his 28th post, post 243, comes his first not-one-liner post!!! WOAH! this has three quotes and three one-line answers to them. one is a response to me, explicitly admitting that he was just trying to piss vertigo, and not looking for scum; the next is to vertigo "im not scum u are", and the last is to vertigo, saying the equal to 'lalala'.
by the time he next posted, I've already voted him, so I've turned to scum too. then, there's this:
↑Whomping Willow wrote:I just said why. And it wasn't omgus, I was already scumreading him, I already explained this.
This could actually be an actual post by an actual town player, if not for the fact that he did not say why, he did omgus, only said he was scumreading vertigo AFTER the attack of vertigo on him, and did not explain anything.