In post 164, skitter30 wrote:
i mean i read it again and i can see the narrative that you're pushing (ie that he wanted to form wagons and when you weren't interested in reck he switched to pushing who you were pushing) but i don't feel like it explains everything, namely his random read change on reck
In post 224, skitter30 wrote:the fact that reck didn't post anything in between so i don't know why he suddenly changed his mind from 'reck has no ai content' to 'nm reck's changing vote like that is townie'
I thought it was a change from casual read into looking at things more closely when prompted.
Gave him a townpoint for it.
@Enter At no point was my read on NMSA a joke, or rvs read. I came into this game fairly confident that I could read NMSA off of his opening posts, and I believe I have done so.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:54 pm
by u r a person 2
@Enter What were you going to ask me earlier? I'm talking about the thing that came out wrong or w/e
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:57 pm
by u r a person 2
In post 310, tris wrote:Anyone have any questions they want to ask me?
Are you still town reading enter?
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:04 pm
by Enter
In post 326, u r a person 2 wrote:@Enter What were you going to ask me earlier? I'm talking about the thing that came out wrong or w/e
I mean to say I think the majority of scum is probably on NMSA wagon/not voting at the time of that post. You said you think it's mostly town except me. What I mean to ask is what do you think of the other wagons/votes in that case?
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:04 pm
by u r a person 2
In post 312, Enter wrote:I highly doubt you will actually be lynched at this point. Very rarely have I seen a highly active game (which I very much intend for this to be) result in the Lynch of a player who got bandwagons coming out of RVS
I don't understand. You think he's scum, but you don't think he will be the lynch.
Do you want today's lynch to be NMSA?
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:07 pm
by Enter
Yes. I do.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:08 pm
by Enter
In post 325, u r a person 2 wrote:@Enter At no point was my read on NMSA a joke, or rvs read. I came into this game fairly confident that I could read NMSA off of his opening posts, and I believe I have done so.
In post 326, u r a person 2 wrote:@Enter What were you going to ask me earlier? I'm talking about the thing that came out wrong or w/e
I mean to say I think the majority of scum is probably on NMSA wagon/not voting at the time of that post. You said you think it's mostly town except me. What I mean to ask is what do you think of the other wagons/votes in that case?
I'm not discounting the possibility that there is scum on NMSA's wagon. I'm inclined to think that scum is you, but I'm not solid enough on my read of TicTac or Triss to discount them as possibilities.
I think it's just as likely that scum ignores the wagon as long as possible hoping it will die out, or is in the pool of players that has expressed a scum read on NMSA but has failed to vote (though not skitter. Skitter is a town read).
Basically, scum is somewhere in this game and I don't have enough information to start piecing together where they're at. I do think the fact that 8 players are scum reading NMSA probably means I'm right about him being scum.
In post 325, u r a person 2 wrote:@Enter At no point was my read on NMSA a joke, or rvs read. I came into this game fairly confident that I could read NMSA off of his opening posts, and I believe I have done so.
This just makes it worse for me, IMO
Why?
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:10 pm
by Enter
I want NMSA to be lynched today, I don't think he will be lynched right now. Based on experience the wagon on him will dismantle before reforming again if he will be lynched, though. Very very rarely do I see a wagon coming out of RVS resulting in a Lynch.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:10 pm
by Chara
hello again, i didn't expect to be unavailable for the opening of this game. i hate when that happens.
u2's posts on this game feel kind of wooden. i misread him in the only other game we have together so i'll take that with a grain of salt, but yes.
pedit: oh, you're both online.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:12 pm
by u r a person 2
In post 334, Enter wrote:I want NMSA to be lynched today, I don't think he will be lynched right now. Based on experience the wagon on him will dismantle before reforming again if he will be lynched, though. Very very rarely do I see a wagon coming out of RVS resulting in a Lynch.
@urap2 idk why but this vote feels scummy
if nmsa is town it's bandwagon-y
and if he's scum it basically feels like scum trying to get on the wagon for the towncred
and none of the posts you pulled feel particularly ai to me
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:15 pm
by u r a person 2
In post 337, tris wrote:I've seen nothing to change my mind there.
In post 325, u r a person 2 wrote:@Enter At no point was my read on NMSA a joke, or rvs read. I came into this game fairly confident that I could read NMSA off of his opening posts, and I believe I have done so.
This just makes it worse for me, IMO
Why?
Because it looks more like you're bussing on preexisting knowledge and a lack of faith in his ability.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:19 pm
by tris
I don't see why tictac would look like he's busing. He's in basically the same situation as me as relates to that wagon. We both voted for nmsa before he started posting, and stayed because we thought he looked scummy when he did. What in particular about tictac looks like it could be a bus?
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:19 pm
by skitter30
In post 332, u r a person 2 wrote:I do think the fact that 8 players are scum reading NMSA probably means I'm right about him being scum.
actually this starts to make me worry that he may be lynch bait tbh, the complete, mass agreement on scum!nsa
the gamestate is explained either by scum deciding to just hard bus or riding an easy mislynch
figuring out which is it is tho is the tricky part, of course
have you had a scumgame since i asked you in the newbie?
@urap2 idk why but this vote feels scummy
if nmsa is town it's bandwagon-y
and if he's scum it basically feels like scum trying to get on the wagon for the towncred
and none of the posts you pulled feel particularly ai to me
I hear what you're saying.
But it comes after I have asked for an RVS wagon on NMSA
and before NMSA actually posts
So I don't think that scum motivation really holds weight with me.
I think the posts show a solving thought process, but this isn't the cross I'm dying on.
In post 332, u r a person 2 wrote:I do think the fact that 8 players are scum reading NMSA probably means I'm right about him being scum.
actually this starts to make me worry that he may be lynch bait tbh, the complete, mass agreement on scum!nsa
the gamestate is explained either by scum deciding to just hard bus or riding an easy mislynch
figuring out which is it is tho is the tricky part, of course
have you had a scumgame since i asked you in the newbie?
In post 335, Chara wrote:hello again, i didn't expect to be unavailable for the opening of this game. i hate when that happens.
u2's posts on this game feel kind of wooden.
i misread him in the only other game we have together so i'll take that with a grain of salt, but yes.
pedit: oh, you're both online.
which way did you misread him? (ie he was town and you thought he was scum or the other way around)
i don't really feel like he's being wooden tbh
does this make you scumread him? if yes what do you think that says about nmsa's alignment?
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:22 pm
by u r a person 2
In post 342, skitter30 wrote:the gamestate is explained either by scum deciding to just hard bus or riding an easy mislynch
figuring out which is it is tho is the tricky part, of course
I understand the dichotomy, but I have a strong scum!read on NMSA, and that goes into my read on the situation as a whole, you know?
In post 337, tris wrote:I've seen nothing to change my mind there.
What are you basing the read on?
I might be just giving him town points for his play style which I've liked. It's not a very strong town read.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:23 pm
by skitter30
In post 341, tris wrote:I don't see why tictac would look like he's busing. He's in basically the same situation as me as relates to that wagon. We both voted for nmsa before he started posting, and stayed because we thought he looked scummy when he did. What in particular about tictac looks like it could be a bus?
i don't know.
i remember thinking when it happened that it felt like it could be a bussing vote, and iirc there was another post later that reinforced that impression but i'd have to go back and find it
i'll go back and look at the first couple of pages again later tonight to try to answer this better
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:24 pm
by u r a person 2
In post 340, Enter wrote:
Because it looks more like you're bussing on preexisting knowledge and a lack of faith in his ability.
See, I feel like you're already playing towards the D2 mislynch right here
