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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 3:35 am
by clidd
In post 292, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:"
Scum in 1-1-1 would specifically want groups 1 > 3 > 2 to be lynched in that order.
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Why ?
Lynching group 1 would instantly win scum the game
I guess the difference between groups 2 and 3 aren't
that
big, but group 3 would mean eliminating an extra townie compared to group 2.
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Forget the specific partition for a second, I've noticed that you've basically explained away scum!Albert in every configuration and it doesn't make sense to me. For instance, in the case where the groups are 2-1-0, you say this configuration is too risky for scum in group 2 because group 3 players don't seem "weak verbally." The players in group 3 aren't any stronger/townier than the players in group 2. In fact, I would say the players in group 3 are probably the least known players in the list and have already been attracting a lot of scrutiny
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Do you consider Albert to be a verbally strong player ?
I haven't played with him, but based on what I've seen so far, I think he's lynchbaity than the players in group 3 if that's what you mean. He has proposed that we lynch group 1 and at least two people are townreading him for it
Ok, thanks.
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 3:37 am
by clidd
In post 289, Hoctac wrote: In post 284, Morning Tweet wrote:clidd, the detective
he takes a sip of his tea
it’s quite delicious
im not sure if the last line is cheating or not
That's beautiful. Change "his tea" to "coffee" and it'd be perfect (clidd's a huge fan).
VOTE: Group 2
You have earned my vote.
I had a flash back from Hectic with a sheep on Doctor Drew's vote months ago.
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 3:39 am
by clidd
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 3:43 am
by Ame
^Scum theatre
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 3:50 am
by Albert B. Rampage
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 3:50 am
by Albert B. Rampage
all 3 scum are in group 1 and will fight tooth and nail to avoid instantly losing.
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 3:53 am
by clidd
In post 300, Hoctac wrote:Hang on a minute, I just realised why there's probably 2 or 3 scum in group 1. Everyone (as far as I'm aware) in group 1 are good at looking like town and don't get lynched very often.
In group 3, Mohab has said he gets scumread a lot. Doro is usually scumread (even though he's obvtown), and enomis I have a feeling is made of the same cut, given how he's entered strangely with this whole demotivated thing. Should metacheck him.
clidd doesn't really get lynched however. And Albert is a wildcard I guess, but definitely wouldn't call him lynchbait. BUT, they are exactly the sort of players that would have the confidence to put themselves in a smaller group and pull that off as scum. In fact, I think scum have done their homework and have put them both in group 2 so that we fall into the trap of thinking that.
Conclusion: Either, there's 2 scum in G1 with 1 being in G2. Or they're all in G1.
This narrative has no cohesion, in my opinion. Scum!Clidd would have placed himself in the larger group, for valuing his life more expressively than all the others in the mafia. Group 2 was probably shaped to make my elimination from the game possible, while group 3 is a bottomless wifom pit.
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 4:00 am
by clidd
I haven't seen you provide an argumentative particle to your vote. I'm not townreading your debauchery.
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 4:01 am
by clidd
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 4:17 am
by clidd
I found the progression in the last pages strange, especially after the post
299. I still have a higher scumread on group 3, but I believe scenario (3)(0)(0) is possible, although my reads point to either (2)(0)(1) or (1)(0)(2).
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 4:21 am
by Albert B. Rampage
1-0-2 makes zero sense.
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 4:22 am
by Albert B. Rampage
its 2-0-1 or 3-0-0.
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 4:34 am
by Hoctac
In post 324, Ame wrote:Hoc, who haven't you played with or "read up on?" on your main account. Ongoing games are irrelevant to this question.
Pregame, I did research on everyone but Daenerys and Dragons, enomis, and Mohab.
This is my main account. Would be a little silly to have an alt not even a month into the site!
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 4:36 am
by Hoctac
Let's nuke ourselves together...
I'm going to gather my reads on everyone in Group 1 first actually.
UNVOTE: Group 2(?)
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 4:39 am
by Cat Scratch Fever
In post 299, Adorable wrote:I start to wonder why did mafia put 8 players in group 1, 2 players in group 2, and 3 players in group 3. It takes 7 to hammer and there's no way group 1 will get hammered by the other groups for not having enough players. Mafia want to avoid getting lynched which will be more likely there is definitely scum in group 1.
VOTE: Group 1
How many scum do you think are in group 1 and why?
Do you have any reads
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 4:39 am
by Cat Scratch Fever
I think Adorable is scum
But I’m still not endorsing a lynch on group 1
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 4:42 am
by Raya36
What makes you think Adorable is scum?
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 4:49 am
by Cat Scratch Fever
Just read her ISO
It doesn’t have anything besides bad justification for voting group 1 (yes there’s almost certainly scum in group 1 but the real question is how many?) and an OMGUS on MT that was reachy and unjustified
I think she’d be doing a lot more as town
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 4:52 am
by Daenerys and Dragons
@ABR, are you townreading clidd and why?
- Daenerys
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 4:55 am
by Cat Scratch Fever
The context for what I said was,
“If scum put 1 scum into each group, then lynching group 1 would be an instant win for scum.”
Why is this a scummy thing to say?
You can’t instantly lose as town if all 3 scum are in group 1, no matter which group you lynch
Conversely you can instantly lose as town if you lynch group 1 and the partitions are 1-1-1
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 4:58 am
by Albert B. Rampage
You're not reading what I'm writing!
SCUM INSTANTLY LOSES IF WE LYNCH GROUP 1
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 4:59 am
by Cat Scratch Fever
I misread that mb
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 4:59 am
by Cat Scratch Fever
Who’s scum in group 1?
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 5:01 am
by Albert B. Rampage
1/1/1 is absolutely terrible for scum. Not being in group 1 is terrible. Being in group 2 is terrible. That dont leave many choices!!!
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 5:01 am
by Albert B. Rampage