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In post 320, votato wrote: which is it? are you 65% sure that I'm scum, or were you just trying to generate discussion? i dont think it can be both in terms of the reasoning in your head. if you think im scum then you wouldnt need to try to generate discussion, because the discussion would come naturally from your genuine push on me.

I love how you answered your own question with your following sentence

I mean, I don't normally want to speak for someone else, but I think they literally meant that their push on you would generate the more focused day that they wanted, as you have expertly noted

I think votato is Town this game. There, I said it.

but isnt the increasing quality of the wagons (maybe) and the increasing information resulting (definitely) a natural result of moving out of RVS?

nauci, i feel like the two somewhat contradict in terms of internal reasoning. i think both are valid reasons. i just dont think one mind could think both of those things at once.

In post 324, VP Baltar wrote:And my reasoning was him accusing Blair of jumping on a Puppy "wagon"...which was just my RVS vote (see above). It wasn't a wagon. Felt like a scummy way to characterize it at the time, so I moved my vote. Since then, I've gained some good reads by continuing push people and votato to take more concrete positions.

Hmm I like both this original action and train of thought now that you've fully explained it. Previously I was puzzled by both your vote and his in that moment.

In post 326, Quick wrote:I think votato is Town this game. There, I said it.

that makes me think you're scum. but i actually think youre town too

In post 327, votato wrote:but isnt the increasing quality of the wagons (maybe) and the increasing information resulting (definitely) a natural result of moving out of RVS?

nauci, i feel like the two somewhat contradict in terms of internal reasoning. i think both are valid reasons. i just dont think one mind could think both of those things at once.

I don't understand why you think that's contradictory?

If he thinks that a genuine push to lynch you will also genuinely generate better discussion, which is what you stated to be true two posts ago, then wouldn't he have been achieving both by doing the former?

Okay, Effort for donkey just means he is Town. That is all I am saying.

They?

In post 331, Quick wrote:Okay, Effort for donkey just means he is Town. That is all I am saying.

I burned myself out completely 2 years ago by being the queen of meta-diving and wall posts, so dangit don't prompt me down that rabbit hole again

In post 328, Nauci wrote:Previously I was puzzled by both your vote and his in that moment.

I mean, there were like 10 pages of pointlessness at the time. I don't blame anyone for not being able to follow all the threads. I certainly couldn't.

In post 333, Nauci wrote:

In post 331, Quick wrote:Okay, Effort for donkey just means he is Town. That is all I am saying.

I burned myself out completely 2 years ago by being the queen of meta-diving and wall posts, so dangit don't prompt me down that rabbit hole again

Just read one of my responses to VP about votato.

In post 331, Quick wrote:Okay, Effort for donkey just means he is Town. That is all I am saying.

I'll bite. Give me the case on Blair.

@Quick: most of my reasoning was how you plucked out a post from the past when justifying a vote vs voting at the time of the post. And now you just plucked my post haha.

@Puppy: you have a series of posts 229-231 that was the inception of the Votato interaction (231). Your 229 had a question posed to NPOM. I think the votato read only started cause votato responded first and that’s naturally where the conversation went. Since the 229 post, NPOM has gone quiet and hasn’t actually responded. Wouldn’t this be more suspicious and possibly be seen as NPOM letting another read develop while staying away? Basically what I’m saying is that I think town!votato is more likely to respond where scum would stay back and let something pass.

@NPOM: your Nauci read has developed quite a bit. It goes from RVS with a double down in 92. And still (what I believe is throwing shade) Nauci in 185 to having her as top town read in 253. In those 70 posts, what strikes you as town?

In post 335, Quick wrote:

In post 333, Nauci wrote:

In post 331, Quick wrote:Okay, Effort for donkey just means he is Town. That is all I am saying.

I burned myself out completely 2 years ago by being the queen of meta-diving and wall posts, so dangit don't prompt me down that rabbit hole again

Just read one of my responses to VP about votato.

I only see 2 finished games, both of which he was town in and roughly middle of the pack activity wise

In post 336, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 331, Quick wrote:Okay, Effort for donkey just means he is Town. That is all I am saying.

I'll bite. Give me the case on Blair.

Read my ISO, that's all I have. Or you are just Scum with Blair. That could work here.

In post 330, Nauci wrote:

In post 327, votato wrote:but isnt the increasing quality of the wagons (maybe) and the increasing information resulting (definitely) a natural result of moving out of RVS?

nauci, i feel like the two somewhat contradict in terms of internal reasoning. i think both are valid reasons. i just dont think one mind could think both of those things at once.

I don't understand why you think that's contradictory?

If he thinks that a genuine push to lynch you will also genuinely generate better discussion, which is what you stated to be true two posts ago, then wouldn't he have been achieving both by doing the former?

no.

In post 331, Quick wrote:Okay, Effort for donkey just means he is Town. That is all I am saying.

please stop mis-speciesing me. i am a beautiful unicorn. thats so xenophobic

In post 332, Quick wrote:They?

no.

pedit: in one of them im not really middle of the pack activity-wise. im very near the top. i think second most? if you just checked that, why would you report wrong? both are town games though, so i dont think its necessarily AI. my activity level fluctuates based on the activity level of the game overall and based on interest in the game. some games are boring or slow or both.

In post 337, mavsfan41 wrote:And now you just plucked my post haha.

do what now

what are you referring to here?

In post 340, votato wrote:pedit: in one of them im not really middle of the pack activity-wise. im very near the top.

I wasn't comparing it to other people in the game, more to the range of quiet to spammers post counts on the site that I've experienced through many games

In post 341, Nauci wrote:

In post 337, mavsfan41 wrote:And now you just plucked my post haha.

do what now

what are you referring to here?

Quick’s 229. Initially I had a vote cause I believed he pushed an alternate read to himself that you have mentioned and justified it by picking out content well in the past with the premise of, if Quick was scumreading Atarashi from 139, why was he then pulling it out after already having read it and posted it without being up any Atarashi posts prior your post.

In response to my post voting him, he quoted that 80 posts later and plucked my post from the past vs just commenting on it at the time.

In post 208, Quick wrote:

In post 207, Nauci wrote:

In post 189, NoPowerOverMe wrote:

unvote

Vote: Blair

In post 191, Quick wrote:VOTE: Blair

I would love to see Blair Tunnel this about now.

In post 190, votato wrote:

In post 189, NoPowerOverMe wrote:

unvote

Vote: Blair

eggs, plain

Both of you: what votato said

Mine had a double meaning.

In post 288, Quick wrote:

In post 286, CantHateAPuppy wrote:

In post 278, Quick wrote:

In post 275, CantHateAPuppy wrote:

In post 273, Quick wrote:Disagree?

yep!

Okay, well Blair seems LAMIST to me this game so far.

See! U could have started with this instead of being coy and mysterious about it

i think u want to be all tough and macho and gruff and cool. it's ok, we're having fun too!

I've been coy and mysterious from the beginning boo.

In post 292, Quick wrote:

In post 285, Blair wrote:Feel free to explain how they were all terrible any time the motivation grips you.

Secret and shadow are my worlds.

In post 307, Quick wrote:I am not trying to be cryptic

VOTE: Quick

I was null reading it as an intentional playstyle thing until you claimed it wasn't.

In post 344, Blair wrote:

In post 208, Quick wrote:

In post 207, Nauci wrote:

In post 189, NoPowerOverMe wrote:

unvote

Vote: Blair

In post 191, Quick wrote:VOTE: Blair

I would love to see Blair Tunnel this about now.

In post 190, votato wrote:

In post 189, NoPowerOverMe wrote:

unvote

Vote: Blair

eggs, plain

Both of you: what votato said

Mine had a double meaning.

In post 288, Quick wrote:

In post 286, CantHateAPuppy wrote:

In post 278, Quick wrote:

In post 275, CantHateAPuppy wrote:

In post 273, Quick wrote:Disagree?

yep!

Okay, well Blair seems LAMIST to me this game so far.

See! U could have started with this instead of being coy and mysterious about it

i think u want to be all tough and macho and gruff and cool. it's ok, we're having fun too!

I've been coy and mysterious from the beginning boo.

In post 292, Quick wrote:

In post 285, Blair wrote:Feel free to explain how they were all terrible any time the motivation grips you.

Secret and shadow are my worlds.

In post 307, Quick wrote:I am not trying to be cryptic

VOTE: Quick

I was null reading it as an intentional playstyle thing until you claimed it wasn't.

I say votato is Town and you vot me? Is this for real?

In post 324, VP Baltar wrote: And my reasoning was him accusing Blair of jumping on a Puppy "wagon"...which was just my RVS vote (see above). It wasn't a wagon. Felt like a scummy way to characterize it at the time, so I moved my vote. Since then, I've gained some good reads by continuing push people and votato to take more concrete positions.

All right, thanks. Think i forgot the reason u voted and got the wrong impression from that one post out of context.

However, if i don't have u as scum i don't have u as town either. i think u're being a little passive, not in a scummie sense, but i think u are a bigger blank to me than some other posters. Help me out. Do u have a second strong scumread besides votato?

In post 326, Quick wrote:I think votato is Town this game. There, I said it.

See! That wasn't so hard. U can speak in clear sentences just like the rest of us

In post 337, mavsfan41 wrote: @Puppy: you have a series of posts 229-231 that was the inception of the Votato interaction (231). Your 229 had a question posed to NPOM. I think the votato read only started cause votato responded first and that’s naturally where the conversation went. Since the 229 post, NPOM has gone quiet and hasn’t actually responded. Wouldn’t this be more suspicious and possibly be seen as NPOM letting another read develop while staying away? Basically what I’m saying is that I think town!votato is more likely to respond where scum would stay back and let something pass.

No, this is a good point, i had thought about this earlier, i think NPOM is "skimming" a little to invent a term, idk. But i think right now i have hands full looking into votato and all that came from that. Help me out here and develop this like of thought please

In post 345, Quick wrote:I say votato is Town and you vot me? Is this for real?

Your reading comprehension is definitely better than this.

In post 347, Blair wrote:

In post 345, Quick wrote:I say votato is Town and you vot me? Is this for real?

Your reading comprehension is definitely better than this.

Just stating FACTS, Blair. FACTS.

In post 344, Blair wrote:VOTE: Quick

I was null reading it as an intentional playstyle thing until you claimed it wasn't.

That was enough to override your vote on votato? How come?