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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:52 pm
by Raven Branwen
In post 3435, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i think theres a decent chance you are deathtunneled town in this game so if we make it to lylo together the scum will win. its better for me to exit today and get rid of this distraction. good luck dats
I’ll say what I said to djstr. if you’re town, this is gamethrowing.

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:56 pm
by Raven Branwen
In post 3441, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I am helping you out here by telling you to remove me from the lylo. it would be a liability at this point to include me since you don't even believe my role would exist in this game.
How is this helping us out if you’re town? Do you think dsjtr is town then?

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:58 pm
by Raven Branwen
In post 3347, dsjstr wrote:
In post 3345, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3343, dsjstr wrote:The v/la wasn't the problem
then i don't understand what you're trying to say and can you just answer the question plz?
I believe you are asleep now so you can see what I saw tomorrow morning, I have no idea what you were trying to say.

If I was right about the 3 PR's then you can see how clearly fmpov it is raven/dats, I don't see how
koba
could have been scum.
I can’t believe anyone is tr this.

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:00 pm
by Datisi
In post 3412, dsjstr wrote:
In post 3397, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3305, dsjstr wrote:If I'm wrong then I'd like to be the hammer today.
can you explain why you want to be hammer today?
I have many many many town games where I am the elim in ELO, I'd like to avoid that.
note that dsjstr, who currently thinks it's datisi/raven (i think at least...?) saw me somewhat successfully convincing skitter to vote for pooky and this is like the only thing he had to say about the whole thing

though am i insane for wanting to execute him tomorrow after pooky flip?

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:19 pm
by Raven Branwen
In post 3453, Datisi wrote:
In post 3412, dsjstr wrote:
In post 3397, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3305, dsjstr wrote:If I'm wrong then I'd like to be the hammer today.
can you explain why you want to be hammer today?
I have many many many town games where I am the elim in ELO, I'd like to avoid that.
note that dsjstr, who currently thinks it's datisi/raven (i think at least...?) saw me somewhat successfully convincing skitter to vote for pooky and this is like the only thing he had to say about the whole thing

though am i insane for wanting to execute him tomorrow after pooky flip?
I think there’s a chance Pooky could be town, I see don’t see how dsjtr can be. How is Pooky scummier thzn dsjstr? Which do you think is scummier, being caught lying about a vig role or repeatedly contradicting what you’re saying about A) wanting to be the hammer. B) Flipfloppng on his you/me scumteam read based on whether or not I vote for Pooky. C) continuing to push this narrative while still insisting not only that Skitter needs to be confirmed but that he is the most logical person to do it, when by the sheer fact that Pooky is the one slot guaranteed not to die tonight, it would logically be him not dsjtr?

I also can’t see how anything dsjstr is doing is coming from a townie mindset and unless anyone can convince me I’m wrong about that, I’m not unvoting him.

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:26 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 3450, Raven Branwen wrote:I’ll say what I said to djstr. if you’re town, this is gamethrowing.
datisi said he will vote me d3 no questions asked - if we miss today and datisi is town, scum just keep him alive and easy win at lylo. if i leave now at least he gets his head screwed on right and starts looking fot bad guys instead of death tunneling me

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:30 pm
by the worst
In post 3453, Datisi wrote:
In post 3412, dsjstr wrote:
In post 3397, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3305, dsjstr wrote:If I'm wrong then I'd like to be the hammer today.
can you explain why you want to be hammer today?
I have many many many town games where I am the elim in ELO, I'd like to avoid that.
note that dsjstr, who currently thinks it's datisi/raven (i think at least...?) saw me somewhat successfully convincing skitter to vote for pooky and this is like the only thing he had to say about the whole thing

though am i insane for wanting to execute him tomorrow after pooky flip?
maybe slightly :#
i feel like pooky could be scum with dsj
in a worst case scenario tho i also feel like pooky is easier to solve than dsj in f5. pooky's claim also means he's like guaranteed to be alive tomorrow so there's some microscopic utility add in having him confirm skitter

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:33 pm
by skitter30
In post 3446, the worst wrote:Food for thought, does a dsj/Pooky scumteam mutually beg to be eliminated before Xylo or am I wrong about someone?
yeah this is what i'm wondering too :/

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:34 pm
by skitter30
In post 3449, Raven Branwen wrote:Why is this scummy? This is why dsjstr’s argument makes no sense right?
i feel like pooky is picking arguments over things that don't actually matter to make dats look bad

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:35 pm
by Datisi
In post 3454, Raven Branwen wrote:being caught lying about a vig
ok but like
i've been thinking pooky is scum waaaaaay before that vig/bomb fiasco

like if you read that huge wallpost i made two pages ago you'd know that

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:35 pm
by Raven Branwen
I think dsjstr is very likely scum for a couple of reasons. He was trying to get me to vote Pooky while still pushing a Dats/Skitter scumteam.

A) This is something I did as scum - tried to push a wagon I had no intention of voting. 2) pushing multiple scumreads that clearly contradict each other:

B) Too many PRs/Dats/me scumteam/Skitter still needs to be confirmed etc.

C). Claiming to want to be the hammer, yet still doing everything possible and in an extremely scummy way to avoid it.

Whether or not dsjtr is just individually scummy or is actually partners with Pooky, he is by far my more confident sr of the two, because while I can see some possible town motivation for what Pooky is doing, I can see none in dsjstr.

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:36 pm
by Datisi
In post 3456, the worst wrote:in a worst case scenario tho i also feel like pooky is easier to solve than dsj in f5. pooky's claim also means he's like guaranteed to be alive tomorrow so there's some microscopic utility add in having him confirm skitter
how
literally how

also is anyone actually doubing skitt's alignment at this point

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:38 pm
by skitter30
kinda want a vc
but dsjstr and pooky competing wagons sounds like fun

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:39 pm
by skitter30
im scum with u dats, don'tcha know?

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:40 pm
by Datisi
deadass my biggest fear rn is us executing dsjstr, him flipping scum, pooky making up some arguments about "oh i was right on the game state dsj was actually scum" and y'all believe him and town ends up losing

pedit: skitt no this isn't the scum PT

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:42 pm
by Raven Branwen
In post 3456, the worst wrote:
In post 3453, Datisi wrote:
In post 3412, dsjstr wrote:
In post 3397, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3305, dsjstr wrote:If I'm wrong then I'd like to be the hammer today.
can you explain why you want to be hammer today?
I have many many many town games where I am the elim in ELO, I'd like to avoid that.
note that dsjstr, who currently thinks it's datisi/raven (i think at least...?) saw me somewhat successfully convincing skitter to vote for pooky and this is like the only thing he had to say about the whole thing

though am i insane for wanting to execute him tomorrow after pooky flip?
maybe slightly :#
i feel like pooky could be scum with dsj
in a worst case scenario tho i also feel like pooky is easier to solve than dsj in f5. pooky's claim also means he's like guaranteed to be alive tomorrow so there's some microscopic utility add in having him confirm skitter
Yes because whether or not Pooky actually is A) town bomb B) town something else C) scum, he is 100% not dying and the obvious choice to possibly townlock Skitter and I can’t see how having Skitter be 100% confirmed is a bad thing.

I agree with that too be because dsjtr’s posts make me want to gauge out my eyes, so I don’t have to keep reading them.

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:43 pm
by Datisi
raven

did you read my wallpost? like genuine question

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:48 pm
by skitter30
unless you're positing me/dats (which nobody is), i'm functionally conftown

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:49 pm
by Raven Branwen
In post 3458, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3449, Raven Branwen wrote:Why is this scummy? This is why dsjstr’s argument makes no sense right?
i feel like pooky is picking arguments over things that don't actually matter to make dats look bad
and what about dsjtr insisting on a me/Dats scumteam, when his reasoning is solely based off of Dats/bugs and not Dats/me interactions?

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:51 pm
by skitter30
dsjster's not great, but you just asked me what i didn't like about pooky there, and i answered the question

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:54 pm
by Raven Branwen
In post 3466, Datisi wrote:raven

did you read my wallpost? like genuine question
Yes I did and I’m not saying you’re not making valid points because you obviously are, I just think that dsjtr is obviously scummier and your wall post does nothing to convince me that Pooky isa better vote today than dsjstr.

Pooky could well be scum but I don’t think it’s almost impossible that dsjtr isn’t. Sorry but I still want him dead.

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:59 pm
by Raven Branwen
In post 3467, skitter30 wrote:unless you're positing me/dats (which nobody is), i'm functionally conftown
I have already made it abundantly clear what my stance is on that. The only ones doubting you at all, are dsjtr and maybe SS.

But the difference is that dsjtr made a huge deal about that, which doesn’t make sense if he’s convinced on a Dats/me scumteam. That’s been basically my point, nothing he’s posted recently has made any sensr. Do you disagree with that?

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:03 pm
by Raven Branwen
@Skitter, you and Dats should vote for Pooky if that is what makes the most sense to you. To me, I can’t see how Pooky is scummier than dsjstr and I have to vote my strongest sr.

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:03 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 3464, Datisi wrote:deadass my biggest fear rn is us executing dsjstr, him flipping scum, pooky making up some arguments about "oh i was right on the game state dsj was actually scum" and y'all believe him and town ends up losing

pedit: skitt no this isn't the scum PT
im actually pretty worried dsj is town here

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:07 pm
by Raven Branwen
In post 3473, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3464, Datisi wrote:deadass my biggest fear rn is us executing dsjstr, him flipping scum, pooky making up some arguments about "oh i was right on the game state dsj was actually scum" and y'all believe him and town ends up losing

pedit: skitt no this isn't the scum PT
im actually pretty worried dsj is town here
Then who is scum, then?