Way to drop a case and switch to the other bandwagon,
IceGuy! Why is AV town, besides listing you as town?
Also, AV is either scum trying to get towncred for not supporting the lynch, he is town who genuinely thinks IceGuy is town.
AV, why is IceGuy town? And why did you ignore Whispersilk's questions?
Collect: C6
I was the only person voting you before Iceguy voted for you. Which means he wasn't even close to joining a bandwagon. Nice misrep.
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:04 am
by DCLXVI
lolz at double post, I thought the first one didn't go through and made the second...
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:07 am
by Arugula
DCL, what the hell is your problem with me? Did I take a shit on your pillow or something?
I did have a bandwagon going, and EXCUSE ME if I didn't realize that all but one person hopped off. Nonetheless, IceGuy abandoned his case on whispersilk and moved onto someone who others had previously voted: me.
You have been tunneling me this whole game. Literally. After pages of posts, that is all you have to comment on? That is scummy as hell.
You didn't even address Hoopla's vote on you.
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:09 am
by whispersilk
↑AurorusVox wrote:ICEGuy is town because scum are pushing his lynch (Whiskers, MoI, You)
I ignored her questions because they're pointless distractions that won't lead to anything.
I'd answer her stupid questions if she was town for the sake of clarity. But she's just asking for asking.
I don't mind answering questions of scum (i.e. you). But I won't answer pointless ones that are aimed at distracting me and making Whiskers appear to be doing something.
If everyone ignored everyone else's questions just because they thought they answering wouldn't lead anywhere, then mafia as a game would suck balls. Saying my questions are pointless and stupid is a lame attempt to get out of answering them.
If you were town, you'd be doing everything you could to push the wagon of the person you believe to be scum, and the person you're voting, including rebutting what they have to say to you, and by answering their questions to prove them wrong. Doing so helps your case on them. That's me. Right now, you're doing nothing to convince anyone or strengthen your case against me. You just look scummy and like you don't want to answer me because you either don't have the answers, or you know your answers will make you look worse.
Here are all the questions of mine that you've refused to answer. I'd like an answer for each of them, or an explanation as to what makes them pointless or stupid.
Ah I was reading on my phone and thought Hoopla was on 3 votes, not ICEguy. Not sure about his wagon. Yours and Argu's are decent (good), his is decent (sized) though.
In what way is my wagon good?
What do you think of the other two people voting for me, ie what are your reads on them?
↑AurorusVox wrote:Your wagon is good because you're scum.
Other than your sole reason for voting me, why else am I scum?
Popcorning is a way of controlling the picking process without making it too beuracratic.
I know what popcorning is. I was asking how you think the process is going to benefit the town? Other than not being too beuracratic, what other real benefits are there for the town?
And you were posturing by claiming people to be "at best null" but not following it up with a vote OR calling anyone scummy. That's pretty obvious considering it's the post I voted you for.
Do you know what posturing means?
The post you voted me for contained reads on 4 people, including yourself. You're right, I didn't specify which of the three on Arugula's wagon I found null or scummy, but at least I gave my reads at the time on 4 people, and then followed that post up stating I would vote when I'd decided who I found scummiest. I also stated here, a few posts before that I was not in favour of RVS voting and I would vote when someone gave me a reason to, so I don't understand why this is such an issue for you, and enough to vote me over other players that have shown real scummy behaviour.
Other than calling me scum, can you point out where you've given your own town and scum reads?
Also, can you answer the part of my previous post that you've not answered. Thanks.
↑AurorusVox wrote:No I can't because you're scum and this administration does not negotiate with terrorists.
Who do you THINK my scum reads are, bub?
↑whispersilk wrote:Ok, you think I'm scum. I get it.
How does refusing to give your reads on the two other players voting me benefit anyone, especially the rest of the town?
Your refusal to give reads on two players is far scummier than anything I've done or not done. You've also chosen not to answer two other questions in my post.
What are your reasons for not telling me and everyone else exactly how your idea of popcorning the tiles will benefit the town? It's your idea, and not responding makes no sense.
Who do you THINK my scum reads are, bub?
I don't know, that's why I'm asking, and I'm asking about all your reads, not just scum ones. I can't see any reads in your ISO, just the two instances where you sheeped the Hoopla and Arugula wagons, before starting mine, and yes, you've called me scum. If I've missed them, then I apologise and I ask that you please point them out.
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:13 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
Hmmm....
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:17 am
by DCLXVI
↑Arugula wrote:DCL, what the hell is your problem with me? Did I take a shit on your pillow or something?
I think you are scum. Therefor my vote is on you. Acting all pissy like that at L-5 is not giving me much reason to leave your wagon.
Whats kinda funny is that I make a post about "x", and then you go off on me for not posting about "y".
Now if I had written a much longer post with reads (which I will be doing later) and had not mentioned the hoopla vote, that would indeed be a cause for concern. But with a short post like that, I don't think it is expect that I'm going to write about everything that has happened so far.
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:28 am
by Arugula
You have been tunneling me, and I expect you to address a vote on you, no matter the length of your post.
I'm not "acting pissy" because I'm at L-5. I'm mad because you have been on me since the beginning, and only talk about one or two posts that I make in a discussion, completely ignoring everyone else's. You don't comment on anyone else and it frustrates me because there are plenty of scummy people, yet you keep bringing the discussion back to me because of some personal vendetta.
I honestly do not know your thoughts on any other player. Not one. I just know you think I am scum for poor reasons.
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:29 am
by Arugula
And LLD, are you going to say something besides hmmm? What are your thoughts on whisper/IceGuy/AV?
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:32 am
by Amrun
↑Voidedmafia wrote:And I should just ignore the fact that she could potentially make Strongman/Letter Steal, yes?
No, but you shouldn't clarify it in the thread. It's scummy - only scum are super interested to know who has S's. Suppose whispersilk is town and she answers "yes" and then scum steals her S. What then?
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:09 pm
by Quilford
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:32 pm
by DCLXVI
Collect: A6
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:33 pm
by DCLXVI
oops...
Collect: A6
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:02 pm
by Arugula
Still waiting for that long post with reads, DCL.
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:13 pm
by DCLXVI
↑Arugula wrote:Still waiting for that long post with reads, DCL.
patience grasshopper
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:17 pm
by AurorusVox
Whisper it detracts from my focus to have you constantly chirping about shit that I know you're only interested in for scummy motives. I could answer all of your questions right now if I wanted to. But what's the point? You won't change your mind about me since you already know I'm town and are faking having a scumread. Other players have plenty rest to judge me on, and your questions won't add anything. And to say I'm not trying to get you lynched is laughable when I've been pointing out your scumslips all day.
2.) I did comment about the "j" ("if LLD is scum, she should consider herself lucky if she has a "j"), but I didn't press it.
btw, I know (and MoI probably knows) you didn't, but he's asking if you believed there were any.
3.) I won't push this point, but I will say that it will still keep scum guessing even if you say you don't have an "s", considering the two other possible roles don't share the same letters.
Post 341 - I said this to IceGuy, but I think those instances are really situational and overall don't really make it any better.
Post 165 - Calls Whisper scum for calling three people potential scum ("nullreads at best") without voting any. Nothing seems to indicate that AVox thinks she might just be trying to think about who she should vote from what I can tell.
Post 169 - Tries to call what he voted for in 165 a slip, and asks MoI about it. MoI promptly shuts it down as a "slip", stating how it really isn't.
Post 180 - Does pressure Whisper some more, though the most it amounts to is trying to get her to name someone to vote. No slip calling here, explicitly or implicitly.
Post 190 - Basically the same as 180, though with the added bit of saying that as far as he can tell Whisper hasn't tried to figure it out yet. Possible implicit "slip"-caling, but nothing explicit.
Post 287 - Tries to claim the end Whisper's shutdown of 2for1's (/stealingfromMoI) teamcase shows her to think they're town, though I really don't see how that's true.
Post 314 - Only asks if Whisper thinks 2for1 is stupid. No "slip"-calling.
Doesn't mention Whisper again until Post 365 where he tries to claim he's been riding her all day about her "slip" out of 21 posts (ending at Post 365), I only see 3-4 explicit or implicit pointing out of slips. THat's nowhere near enough to say you've "pointed [them] out all day".
AV can die tomorrow, most likely.
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:19 pm
by Voidedmafia
Spoiler: summation of the board
LLD can possibly make either neighborize (NB) or Ninja (NJ).
Robocopter has 1 piece for Cop, CPR Doc, or PGO.
Amrun has 1 unknown
Hoopla has 1 piece for CPR and can possibly make RB
AV has 1 piece for Cop, CPR, and PGO like Robo
MoI has 1 piece for Vig and can possibly make VO
I have one piece for CPR and can possibly make RB like Hoop
Vijay and 2Brids have 1 piece for Cop, CPR, and WTC, and can possibly make CM, DC, and LC.
Whisper has 1 piece for WHM, and can possibly make SM and CM
Arugula has 1 unknown
Possible word combos based on the tiles currently flipped are:
X, K6 - None
T, A6 - WTC, TK
D, F6 - HID, WKD, DC
Z, G2 - None
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:39 pm
by Hoopla
↑Voidedmafia wrote:Post 285 - ...Do you REALLY believe I'm active lurking?
In relation to how much you've posted, I'd expect more content. Again, linking to a post number and making a one-line comment isn't content. Most people aren't clicking every one of your links to see who you're talking to. For the most part, you could say whatever the hell you wanted and link to an old post, and I don't think people would pull you up. For some reason, you're confusing the amount of links and piecemeal comments you make as the amount of content you're providing. To repeat myself - I can't remember anything important/memorable you've had to say off the top of my head, which I should be able to if you've posted 39 times. That is active lurking as far as I'm concerned.
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:04 pm
by Voidedmafia
And if I wanted something to be "memorable" I would do so with, say, wallposts, though I'd hope you'd have a better eye for the important things, like, say, the argument I had with IceGuy, the recent bit with Whisper, etc. I mean, even you should know I haven't done nothing but "one-line comments" (which, despite what you're trying to say, are contentful or otherwsie helpful).
Your apparant inability to notice what I'm saying is disturbing. If I really have to start making wallposts just to get people to remember what I'm saying when I'm not trying to fluff my posts by doing so, that's not a problem on my end, and I shouldn't HAVE to do that.
Also, I'd love to actually quote things, but the reply part of the site is absolute shit since I can't go further than the neutral page length before it continually tries to move the visible lines to things above, and I do not have patience for that. Perhaps I could do with labeling them, though.
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:08 pm
by Voidedmafia
EBWOP: Also, while I do admit to adding off-topic one-lines and non-content one-liners, I do try not to make them be the majority of the post in question.
Nor will I claim that all my posts have been contentful, but I've certainly provided more content than you're trying to say I have.
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:17 pm
by vijay2vasandani
↑Hoopla wrote:I have vijay mentally crushed. He can't trust me these days.
I'm more concerned about why LLD thinks I'm scum.
Bully
Also, idk if I've said it here but I'm v/la for a couple of days. Travelling. Hi from Japan
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:48 pm
by whispersilk
↑AurorusVox wrote:Whisper it detracts from my focus to have you constantly chirping about shit that I know you're only interested in for scummy motives. I could answer all of your questions right now if I wanted to. But what's the point? You won't change your mind about me since you already know I'm town and are faking having a scumread. Other players have plenty rest to judge me on, and your questions won't add anything. And to say I'm not trying to get you lynched is laughable when I've been pointing out your scumslips all day.
What exactly is your focus?
I ask because looking at your ISO, it's really not clear. You're doing no scumhunting, and your last 10 posts are either to blow me off, or just plain fluff. As for pointing out my scumslips - there have been no scumslips, others have disagreed with you, so get over yourself. There is little for anyone to judge you on.
And if you are about to claim that lynching me is your focus, then I suggest you pull something else out of your arse.
As for me knowing you are town - I know you are playing really badly in this game, regardless of your alignment. If we were scum together, I'd be pissed as fuck at your play. Likewise, if you are town, then I'm equally as pissed, because you're making yourself look scummy for no reason and your content is shite. I've played just one game with you some time back. Your town play was nothing like this. You actually scumhunted and made long posts that actually qualified as helpful content. That's why I think you're scum.
If you're not scum, the quit being weak useless town.
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:25 am
by whispersilk
I'm not confident that IG is scum anymore, and I'm not comfortable with the fact that so many players are just not posting. LLD, DCLXVI, 2for1, vijay are all either not posting all, or posting fluff that in no way can be seen as scumhunting or giving reads, or even an opinion on the leading wagons. DCLXVI is worst of all, because what little he is posting is a load of nothing. They've all be very silent during all the back and forth between me/IG/MoI. None of them are on IG's wagon - I'd wager that 2 scum are off his wagon, possibly even all 3. There is no way we should be lynching him while this is going on.
I think everyone else voting IG needs to re-read the last 3 pages, especially his discussion with MoI, because that is basically what's confirmed my existing doubts. His thoughts on the letter thing mirror my own, and he turned around and unvoted me. Scum would be pushing harder to lynch me, especially after robocopter jumped on my wagon, not abandoning it altogether. Hella town vibes coming from post #335. Also, look at the players I mentioned above in ISO. Thoughts, comments please from everyone on the IG wagon. If you are not 100% certain he is scum, then unvote him please.
↑Arugula wrote:DCL, what the hell is your problem with me? Did I take a shit on your pillow or something?
I think you are scum. Therefor my vote is on you. Acting all pissy like that at L-5 is not giving me much reason to leave your wagon.
Whats kinda funny is that I make a post about "x", and then you go off on me for not posting about "y".
Now if I had written a much longer post with reads (which I will be doing later) and had not mentioned the hoopla vote, that would indeed be a cause for concern. But with a short post like that, I don't think it is expect that I'm going to write about everything that has happened so far.
I would like to see the reads you keep promising.
Also, what good do you think your vote is doing on his L-5 wagon? Who else do you think is scum? I'm expecting your answer won't include IG or me, and if it does, then I'd want to know why your vote isn't on either of us i.e somewhere it's going to actually make a difference.
