Mini 1533: No More Heroes - Abandoned

[Varsoon]

Hey, Skull, I'm glad I confirmed you as town.
I guess, you know, I was just hoping you were my ally this time, in some way, some how.
;_;

Spoiler:

[Varsoon]

(Kagami, this is the point where you hard-bus me)

[Varsoon]

I promise to continue posting in the game, to keep it fun, and to push for mislynches of town because that's my wincon and all.
C'mon, let me live! This could go down in Mafia history! The town who buddied conf-scum!
OR you could just be droll, ordinary, and lame.

[Varsoon]

VOTE: Happy End
I believe.

[Skullduggery]

Varsoon, are you a Jester?

If so, I think you're at L-1, so if you want to just save us the trouble and hammer yourself, that would be awfully sweet of you.

I do want to keep you around because I like you, but I like winning even more.

Varsoon believed you were the spy from around post 200 at latest, at which point he decided to set up a means of communicating with you. Something you said before that made him think you knew who the scumteam was. I don't think you were especially suspicious of varsoon, so the scumbuddy is in your posts.

I said that my top three suspects were Minions, Bob, and Varsoon in 154. You think that if Varsoon flips Scum, the third Scum player is either Minions or Bob?

I won't be committing any night kills.

Why not?

[Skullduggery]

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

[Kagami]

Your post that made him think you were the spy is def 157, which he responded to in 162. That line of thinking was useless. If we just go by wake's posts, the only obvious partner is minions, but I'm a little skeptical of that. It's possible wake was only told of one partner, even.

[Varsoon]

Because I can't commit night kills.
I'm not Jester, since this isn't a bastard game, although I probably would be if it was.
I'm not going to hammer myself. I want to live. I want to play this game. I want to be a scumfuck and a shitlord and be here until you find my ally, then I'll finally admit defeat.

[Varsoon]

Spoiler:

Why? I'M THE SCATMAN.

[Varsoon]

People should unvote me before scum actually does quickhammer me.

[Varsoon]

'cus that would be really fucking lame.

[Kagami]

As fun as it would be to let you live, varsoon, your flip will give us mod-confirmed knowledge about whatever PR you might have, and will guarantee that you don't perform any night actions that we might want to track/watch.

:<

[Skullduggery]

Your post that made him think you were the spy is def 157, which he responded to in 162. That line of thinking was useless. If we just go by wake's posts, the only obvious partner is minions, but I'm a little skeptical of that. It's possible wake was only told of one partner, even.

I imagine that either the Scum team is informed of the Spy's identity or the Spy is informed of the Scum team's identity, not both. Otherwise, why even bother splitting them up in the first place? If Varsoon flips Scum, I think it'd be safe to assume that the Spy was informed of the Scum team's identity while Varsoon and his partner knew that there was a Spy but didn't know who he was.

Again, though, I've never actually played a game with a Spy before, so let me know if my assumption here is incorrect.

Because I can't commit night kills.
I'm not Jester, since this isn't a bastard game, although I probably would be if it was.

I dunno, a Scum player who can't commit night kills seems like some degree of bastard to me.

I'm not going to hammer myself. I want to live. I want to play this game. I want to be a scumfuck and a shitlord and be here until you find my ally, then I'll finally admit defeat.

Are you implying that your partner hasn't been discovered yet?

[Varsoon]

I can confirm right now that I can't kill and that I don't have any abilities that are anti-town in function.
You can just track or watch me or whatever.
I promise, I have nothing I can do to inhibit town at this point, so keeping me alive is only going to benefit you guys.

[Varsoon]

Oh, we knew there was a Spy, but we weren't told if he knew us or not.
You guys will never catch my partner, especially if you lynch me.

[Skullduggery]

People should unvote me before scum actually does quickhammer me.

'cus that would be really fucking lame.

Okay, how about this. The deadline is in 14 hours. Given how detached/uninterested half the players appear to be, do you believe that we have a legitimate chance of building up another wagon in the amount of time we have left?

If not you, who would be the best lynch choice for today?

[Varsoon]

Think of it this way:
Lynch me today and you're no closer to Catching the other scum.
If you catch the other scum today, then you've won.
Why throw a potential perfect win out the window?

[Varsoon]

Best lynch for today would be Minions or a PL on someone who isn't active/lurking.
Minions is always going to be in a WIFOM status because of my interaction with the Minions/Skull wall. It's clear that Skull is now town-conf, but you'll never know for certain if I was buddying a town Minions, trying to give a scum-minions town-cred, etc. It's the most sensible lynch for today.

Regardless, I'll sheep you for the rest of the game, Skull. You're conf-town, so now your vote counts as two! I'll also answer any questions you ask, but I won't ever out my scum-mate.

[Varsoon]

Alternatively, if we could majority vote for Happy End, then everyone wins except for Wake, so that'd be cool too.

[Varsoon]

I'll be here for those 14 hours to back up any wagon you decide to champion, even if it's on my ally, Skull. Sound like a good deal?

[Skullduggery]

I can confirm right now that I can't kill and that I don't have any abilities that are anti-town in function.
You can just track or watch me or whatever.
I promise, I have nothing I can do to inhibit town at this point, so keeping me alive is only going to benefit you guys.

And yet, you say you have a partner, so you aren't an independent third party.

Think of it this way:
Lynch me today and you're no closer to Catching the other scum.
If you catch the other scum today, then you've won.
Why throw a potential perfect win out the window?

If you're Scum, your partner is going to have to take down 10 Town players all by himself/herself. Are you confident that that will happen? There are some pretty competent players here, so I'll take my chances.

It's clear that Skull is now town-conf, but you'll never know for certain if I was buddying a town Minions, trying to give a scum-minions town-cred, etc. It's the most sensible lynch for today.

What makes me conf-Town, exactly?

I won't ever out my scum-mate.

Isn't this the reason why you're telling us to keep you around, though? So we can figure out who your partner is?

[Skullduggery]

I'll be here for those 14 hours to back up any wagon you decide to champion, even if it's on my ally, Skull. Sound like a good deal?

Any

wagon, you say? You have yourself a deal!

Very well. I have decided to champion the Varsoon wagon. Now hammer thyself, pretty please. Pretty please with sugar on top and chocolate fudge and sprinkles and one of those little crunchy wafer things that always makes a mess when you bite into it so you have to eat it over a plate or something to avoid getting tiny wafer crumbs all over everything.

[Varsoon]

Well, I won't directly out my scum-mate, yo. Keeping me around will be fun! Like a patsy! Besides, you'll probably have an easier time finding him with me alive.

You're not confirmed-by-mod, but practically confirmed due to PoE of me interacting with you thinking you were my spy ally, as well as some other factors. You know, since I said I would buddy you as scum and all.

My scum partner is powerful enough to do it. I'm confident he can, and I think town would be stupid to lynch me instead of spend time looking for him. You've caught me. My death helps you guys none, so long as my partner is still around.

Yeah, I'm scum, pretty sure there's no other factions in-game.

[Varsoon]

<3 Skull
But for real, I don't want to die. I want to keep playing. C'mooooon.

[Varsoon]

grumble grumble stupid wake compromising games