Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:18 pm
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:19 pm
I'm not advocating for focusing on the wagon or off the wagon. I'm advocating for focusing on Wheme's interactions with other players.In post 3484, PenguinPower wrote:Scum is going to be both on the wagon and off the wagon the way it went down yesterday. Why focus on the wagon? They were obviously the more active ones and can be tackled later based on associations.In post 3480, TehBrawlGuy wrote:we have a flipped Scum, and all we're going to do with that is just lynch someone off the wagon? if we think Scum are more likely to be off the wagon, there should be at least one off wagon where Wheme flip implicates them moreIn post 3476, PenguinPower wrote:Off the wagon, pushed for another lynch over Wheme that likely wouldn't go through, whole stuff around FL claiming Mason, weak participation overall which has been consistent with scum!text ime (half the posts of the mod).
FL mason claim stuff also applies to JJD, who pushed for mason buddy Hopkirk to claim (I did too, but honestly we should both get scumpoints for that)
and the last is meta which I don't have on tex
There's nothing in her ISO that really pushes me either way, so I don't hate it, but she's only at slight scumlean for me
I pushed for Hopkirk to claim too, so that's not a good argument for JJD. Yes, JJD was also off the wagon D1, but had a stronger stance on a scum lynch D2 so I don't want to focus on it today. I don't rely solely on meta, but it helps where I'm at given everything else.
I'm not saying JJD is town. I said I don't want to focus there today, and I think scum off the wagon is better. I think that texcat is probably that.
Why are you so against me pushing JJD? I'm pretty meh on texcat, but I don't really have a problem with you pushing her. The only other lynch I really like is Wave, both for the reasons I stated D2, and for Wave "thinking that this was Wheme's towngame" before swapping to Wheme later on after he got more heat. Given that Wavewagon went nowhere yesterday, and that Wave's on me now, I think pushing there would both be nonproductive and might quagmire into a 1v1. If you want me off JJD, give me another candidate I like.
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:42 pm
PREACH wave preeeaaach.In post 3084, wavemode wrote:side note i don't think i've ever seen the phrase "zero town motivation" used in concert with a sound and logical case on somebodyIn post 2995, Golden Robster wrote:literally zero town motivation and ATE
it's usually either made by town who doesn't understand that town do anything they want because most town don't give a shit about what you think looks like town motivation
or scum grasping for straws
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:52 pm
if hop and flavor have said lalendra is scum and I've read 119-127 and was getting scum pings from lalendra due to how she was talked about, what she posted...
lalendra is probably scum.
lalendra is probably scum.
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:01 pm
In post 3245, Flavor Leaf wrote:But Teh’s hella scum
both of these guys are really good players from my experience on site. Isn't hop confirmed town? if one says TEH is scum its worth a look. if BOTH say it... well i'd risk a lynch there if my reads line up with it after catch up.
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:05 pm
anyone who tried to steer a lynch in any other direction after THIS post needs to be looked at. this is clear WIFOM for other town PR's now that we know wheme flipped scum and flavor flipped town.In post 3251, WhemeStar wrote:Your partner is more likely to die over you thoIn post 3243, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m the mason, though. I’ll take that chance.
It’s a scummy claim because it will out other protective roles with it fake.
at this point it was pretty obvious wheme was scum and flavor was town. So the flip only confirms this wifom. Flavor needed to be the NK due to nailing wheme, being a mason and probably calling out MORE THAN ONE scum member. I think flavor's reads are pretty important here.
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:07 pm
when scum go out of their way to wifom the nk on they're way out its a pretty important nk for whatever reason. that wifom tells me flavor was doing some major damage through his reads.
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:13 pm
yeah this needs to be the precedent for d3.In post 3300, Flavor Leaf wrote:Remember who is stalling back and forth.
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:20 pm
Checking in. Reading back.
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:21 pm
please do this re: creatureIn post 3507, Tchill13 wrote:yeah this needs to be the precedent for d3.In post 3300, Flavor Leaf wrote:Remember who is stalling back and forth.
In post 3496, JarJarDrinks wrote:I will put a full case together tomorrow at work but for now, ISO him and start at 3319 to see what scum doing everything in their power to keep a scumbuddy out of the noose looks like.
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:22 pm
im on pg 136. creature from 134 to 136 looks terrible.
my first thought on you jarjar is if you were scum bussing you did it right and dove into it full force. i think you're town atm. Depends on your skill i guess.
my first thought on you jarjar is if you were scum bussing you did it right and dove into it full force. i think you're town atm. Depends on your skill i guess.
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:24 pm
Oh right. Good reminder.
VOTE: Creature
VOTE: Creature
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:25 pm
I'm so behind in this but thanks for getting wheme lynched. He was one of the people I was scum reading since my day 1 catchup.
I have like 50-60 pages to catch up
I have like 50-60 pages to catch up
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:25 pm
was creature stalling for more reads or stalling because he's scum though?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:26 pm
to be clear creature WOULD NOT be my first choice as lynch stallers go.
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:27 pm
skip to 10p before D2 ends and give us your thoughts from there to nowIn post 3512, Frozen Angel wrote:I'm so behind in this but thanks for getting wheme lynched. He was one of the people I was scum reading since my day 1 catchup.
I have like 50-60 pages to catch up
you can catch up on the rest later
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:27 pm
i'd go back 20 pages. thats what i did. 119. its good stuff.
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:28 pm
ok yeah creature just looks bad in general.In post 3438, Kublai Khan wrote:Lol at Creature being a useless sack then showing up to bitch about poor town leadership. He hasn't even read the game. He's just throwing out random names.
"Omg scum-Pine will kill me"Pine is being replaced.
Creature needs rope tomorrow. Line that shit up.
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:29 pm
@PenguinPower - What's your read on JarJarDrinks right now?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:30 pm
if there's one scum in the SR's i'd say lalendra.In post 3442, WhemeStar wrote:Townreads - Creature, Dunn, golden robster, scioness sajj, Kublai (?)
Kublai weakest one because I’m not sure why I townreads him he just pings me that way
Scumreads- tehbrawlgiy, gamma, PP, lalendra
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:33 pm
I can catchup on everything in few hours. I have a presentation I must do in 5-6 hours. Then I'll do thisIn post 3515, TehBrawlGuy wrote:skip to 10p before D2 ends and give us your thoughts from there to nowIn post 3512, Frozen Angel wrote:I'm so behind in this but thanks for getting wheme lynched. He was one of the people I was scum reading since my day 1 catchup.
I have like 50-60 pages to catch up
you can catch up on the rest later
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:33 pm
concerning jarjar... is he capable of bussing to this extreme? he was hell bent on lynching wheme the whole time and while i would imagine scum bussed i would like to direct ppl towards lalendra's naked vote on wheme.In post 3264, JarJarDrinks wrote:I think u meant to say: I don’t do thatIn post 3240, WhemeStar wrote:I don’t do thatIn post 3238, JarJarDrinks wrote:reaction to the hammer is surely scum. No reads list. No "Lynch X tomorrow". Just acceptance.unless I'm town.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 0#p8823570WhemeStar wrote:Dong, if you think I'm scum and you guys end up lynching me. Who are you looking at after I flip green?
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 9#p9128269WhemeStar wrote:Hey Dreal how will your reads change if i flip town?WhemeStar wrote:Lynch Dreal tomorrow
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:34 pm
In post 3242, Dunnstral wrote:What's wrong with you guys? I don't remember wheme being so scummy that we ignore good strategy and just lynch him through a doctor claim, I was under the impression that this was basically a lurker/lynchbait day.
Wheme isn't scummy around hammer, why would mafia claim dumb protect targets
If Wheme is mafia he gets caught later and we lynch him over any other doc claim if it comes to it
If we lynch doctor we lose our way to protect all these mason/ic that prematurely claimed (more bad town play but nothing I could do about it)
VOTE: PenguinPower
and as far as wagon stallers go this would be my first vote.
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:37 pm
vax, dunn, tbg, creature. major red flages there they resisted the wheme lynch HARD. very suspicious of all of these players.
lalendra, jarjar, robster, gamma are players im very suspicious of based on individual play.
if you're not named your either town or null.
lalendra, jarjar, robster, gamma are players im very suspicious of based on individual play.
if you're not named your either town or null.
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:38 pm
how is that extreme bussing? wheme's at L-2 there and there's absolutely no counterwagon
unless JJD is incredibly bad he sees the writing on the wall there. I haven't played with him before to gauge skill level, but he's clearly better than awful.
unless JJD is incredibly bad he sees the writing on the wall there. I haven't played with him before to gauge skill level, but he's clearly better than awful.