In post 3570, Rena wrote:This will be WIFOM but I'll say it anyway. It would be absolutely stupid for me to fakeclaim an investigation type role in my third mastin game after having a successful cop fake-claim in my last mastin game. Guaranteed someone would go back and take a look at that game to get a feel of the mods setup ideas and stumble upon how that game ended. Especially if it's an investigative role I had no experience of how to play.
ugh why are you discrediting your defense before you even say it
thats like, such a scum thing to do
Dude I'm already in analysis paralysis about what to do w/ your slot, don't make it harder
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:41 am
by Rena
Because I don't care how scummy I sound?
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:42 am
by Nachomamma8
bacccdddeeeeee
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:43 am
by mastin2
Seventy-Fourth Votecount
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(Seventh Votecount of Day Three,
AKA, the "Can't go five minutes without checking this game, can I?" votecount.
In post 1687, Bacde wrote:I think the "Nacho demanded I follow his scumreads in the heat of the moment" despite him saying that he is "not happy about his reads" is a pretty good reason to say nacho is scum
I said that a very long time ago in 1478:
In post 1478, Nachomamma8 wrote:Mollie, Bacde, I'm not screaming at you guys for being idiots this game because you do have a point because I'm not exactly happy with my reads yet. It's not that I'm lacking motivation for this game and it isn't that I'm being useless (that's bullshit, Bacde), but I definitely am not being as aggressive and on point this game because I just don't have things worked out yet. I have a pretty good scumread in Desperado, a pretty decent town core, but I don't feel comfortable with the game to the point that I usually do. Although, Bacde:
If I flip town, you're living in my scumlist for a while. You owe me that much.
Notice the word "yet". As in I'm confident that I'll be perfectly happy with my reads by then. Hell, I'm pretty happy with my reads now.
Next point I haven't addressed, please.
Dude if your "yet" post indicated that you needed time before you would have strong reads, why did you demand that I follow your reads only 19 posts later?
That doesn't really seem like enough time for you to suddenly become confident of your reads
I don't have the time to sift through the ISOs of a 100+ page game just to find what you may or may not have been talking about. Since you brought it up, the burden of proof lies on you to provide the quote for me to respond to, not to make a comment about it and expect me to do all the work for you
. If you think my attack is weak, then you need to actually argue why it's weak and put in the effort to do so, starting with this quote.
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:55 am
by ffullisade
I am up to here catching up apparently a lot has happened
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:57 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 3587, Bacde wrote:Dude if your "yet" post indicated that you needed time before you would have strong reads, why did you demand that I follow your reads only 19 posts later?
That doesn't really seem like enough time for you to suddenly become confident of your reads
I demanded that you follow my reads in the "yet" post. Do you know why? Because if somehow on God's green earth you manage to mislynch me on D1, I'm going to have reads sexier than any read I've ever had before while I'm going down.
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:59 am
by Rena
I haven't seen sexier reads than Nachos in a long time. Damn, he's hawt.
In post 3458, ffullisade wrote:it has been my experience that when a player comments on the intelligence of the scumteam, they are usually scum. this is one of the most reliable tells I have ever had. I have seen town drop it in a lateral way and need some games to be completed to see how reliable the tell is when applied laterally but this is a very direct representation of that tell and as soon as I get the okay from fery we are going to vote you.
i think that players who prefer scum more are more likely to comment on how stupid the scumteam is
i also think it's a better tell under pressure because it's a subtle "oh, I'm not so stupid that I would do a kill THAT bad!"
and it also doesn't really work in multiball
since they are distancing themselves from one team, but not the other
sooo
I know at least 2 players who drop this tell on a regular basis and neither of them like playing scum and it isn't when they are under pressure. I mean I dropped it in my first scum game here, the one I subbed into, when I went back and iso-ed myself I thought that is what voided saw but when I asked what he saw he never mentioned it. not that he gave me a lot anyways. thad was in that game but I think he had already been lynched by then.
so you refutation is crap
and you are making bi-polar as hell in this game about you in this game
like I am going to need therapy
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:03 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 3594, ffullisade wrote:I know at least 2 players who drop this tell on a regular basis and neither of them like playing scum
EXACTLY
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:08 am
by ffullisade
In post 3541, Bulbazak wrote:Actually, this makes sense. Red Ryu was a ninja. We were bound to have either a watcher or a tracker.
@Rena: Did anybody visit Om n1 or Bacde n2?
didn't she say "nothing of interest happen"?
holy shit
you are role-fishing like a mofo
if you guys let this pass you are all on my list.
I am ready to slap a vote on this but will talk to fery first
nacho if you are town look at this shit. look at it.
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:13 am
by ffullisade
people I want to hear from about rena's claim:
ak
nero
bc
slandy
^ were all in gears where messiah claimed watcher and sailed to endgame
also these people:
nero
perv
^ these 2 were in posh where the traitor IaI heavily breadcrumbed starting in his very first post. they look a lot like rena's I mean I would be worried that scum would up on it and nk me for sure.
talking things out with fery
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:14 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 3594, ffullisade wrote:and you are making bi-polar as hell in this game about you in this game
like I am going to need therapy
first step is accepting that the problem is you and not me
second step is therapy
ummmmmmm
i don't think it's really rolefishing
considering if he was rolefishing, he would've checked to see if rena claimed people targetting bacde before he asked her about it
stupid question though
In post 3594, ffullisade wrote:I know at least 2 players who drop this tell on a regular basis and neither of them like playing scum
EXACTLY
erm...what you are agreeing with exactly? I mean you said you think it comes from players who like to play scum and I am saying it does not matter. I have even seen praying do it and she loves to play scum.