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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:58 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
In post 3568, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:Personally, mine looks like this at the moment.

  1. Prince of Renais
  2. Extrapolated Eagle (I don't know why I didn't put this name here last time. I must've forgotten. Maybe he lacks presence.
    Just kidding
    )
  3. Karmeleon
  4. RAE
  5. Ankamius
  6. Jingle
  7. mcqueen
  8. Dannflor
  9. ???


That "???" was BuJ but because many people are telling me wrong I'm gonna take my time some day between today and tomorrow and look over their cases on him.
Good

Add DDL

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:00 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
In post 3563, Dannflor wrote:Hey Ank/Enter, can one of you look at this game and tell me if you think Buj's ISO is similar to here?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10669500
I can tell you they have the same writing style and are likely the same person

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:02 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
In post 3601, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
In post 3563, Dannflor wrote:Hey Ank/Enter, can one of you look at this game and tell me if you think Buj's ISO is similar to here?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10669500
I can tell you they have the same writing style and are likely the same person
This is probably who NerfedBuj is an alt of, is my guess.

In all seriousness all this game does is show me that the one we're playing right now is in his scum range

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:03 am
by Dannflor
In post 3601, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
In post 3563, Dannflor wrote:Hey Ank/Enter, can one of you look at this game and tell me if you think Buj's ISO is similar to here?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10669500
I can tell you they have the same writing style and are likely the same person
Thanks

Ank is right, I can't use that as a crutch to read Buj

I'll reread his ISO but I've never been pinged scum by him this game

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:03 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
In post 3591, Dannflor wrote:
In post 3587, Ankamius wrote:
In post 3563, Dannflor wrote:Hey Ank/Enter, can one of you look at this game and tell me if you think Buj's ISO is similar to here?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10669500
I don't use cold meta unless I have a very specific thing I'm looking for

it's useless otherwise
Only curious because that's my meta with him and his analysis there vs. analysis here feels very different to me.
What feels different to you?

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:10 am
by Xtoxm
In post 3582, NerfedBuJ wrote:Read back around the time of DT's replacement and tell me how you think that ever comes from scum.
glanced and all i see is him calling grapes scum
knowing scum on d1 is >>rand to be scum

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:12 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
Like ... one game meta is rarely enough.

It's hard to meta someone unless you know the person and why they do what they do.

2059 Ank is very different than Ank here in play style. She's much more reserved here, in 2059 she was pulling gambits and trying to at least somewhat take charge. She also is a lot less outspoken about her opinions here. This is going to happen because in 2059 town was pretty lost and pushing a town wagon the first half of the day she, was trying to redirect and change that, there was no one really sitting on her role. Here there are three people already pretty much doing the game solving thing and the game feels very under control, very different from 2059. But one town tell for Ank town is her confidence in her ability to be town even when people are screaming her, which is why she reacted like she did to me saying I was screaming her, even when I hadn't given a reason for my push.

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:14 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
I don't know who buj is or what he does or why he does it

Also "screaming" in the last post is supposed to be "scum reading."

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:15 am
by Dannflor
In post 3604, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:What feels different to you?
It's gut mostly

In that game I zeroed in on him pretty quickly because he made lots of chunky posts that looked like analysis but overall contributed nothing

eg: his VC analysis in that game is laughable

I feel like I should've picked up on that same sort of thing if he were scum here, but maybe I haven't looked at his posts closely enough

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:16 am
by Dannflor
In post 3605, Xtoxm wrote:knowing scum on d1 is >>rand to be scum
except lynching scum d1 is >>rand to be town!prince from what I've seen

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:18 am
by Dannflor
In post 3606, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Like ... one game meta is rarely enough.

It's hard to meta someone unless you know the person and why they do what they do.

2059 Ank is very different than Ank here in play style. She's much more reserved here, in 2059 she was pulling gambits and trying to at least somewhat take charge. She also is a lot less outspoken about her opinions here. This is going to happen because in 2059 town was pretty lost and pushing a town wagon the first half of the day she, was trying to redirect and change that, there was no one really sitting on her role. Here there are three people already pretty much doing the game solving thing and the game feels very under control, very different from 2059. But one town tell for Ank town is her confidence in her ability to be town even when people are screaming her, which is why she reacted like she did to me saying I was screaming her, even when I hadn't given a reason for my push.
Yea, I gotcha. I was unsettled by Ank at first just because her style was so different from my previous experience with her, but I should know that alone is not a scum tell.

Buj actually pointed out how my attitude here is pretty different from the game in which he played with me, because I too am approaching this game differently. I did give him slight town points for noticing that

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:21 am
by Reiuji Utsuho
In post 3600, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
In post 3568, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:Personally, mine looks like this at the moment.

  1. Prince of Renais
  2. Extrapolated Eagle (I don't know why I didn't put this name here last time. I must've forgotten. Maybe he lacks presence.
    Just kidding
    )
  3. Karmeleon
  4. RAE
  5. Ankamius
  6. Jingle
  7. mcqueen
  8. Dannflor
  9. ???


That "???" was BuJ but because many people are telling me wrong I'm gonna take my time some day between today and tomorrow and look over their cases on him.
Good

Add DDL
Is this more of "Your list looks great"
or more of "Your list lacks DDL?"

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:22 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
In post 3611, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:
In post 3600, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
In post 3568, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:Personally, mine looks like this at the moment.

  1. Prince of Renais
  2. Extrapolated Eagle (I don't know why I didn't put this name here last time. I must've forgotten. Maybe he lacks presence.
    Just kidding
    )
  3. Karmeleon
  4. RAE
  5. Ankamius
  6. Jingle
  7. mcqueen
  8. Dannflor
  9. ???


That "???" was BuJ but because many people are telling me wrong I'm gonna take my time some day between today and tomorrow and look over their cases on him.
Good

Add DDL
Is this more of "Your list looks great"
or more of "Your list lacks DDL?"
The former

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:26 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
Is Buj opportunistic as scum?

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:50 am
by NerfedBuJ
I've played over 10 scum games on my main. I think I've played differently in each of them.

Truth is I hate playing scum, I am not confident at it, so I try so many different things so that I eventually build an arsenal of tools I am able to do comfortably as scum. At that point my scum meta might be less random.

By my own judgement the game dann was in was one of my all time worst and probably not an accurate representation of my average.

Though it does showcase an attempt of imitating my town game, so if you can see how it is fake compared to some of my town games you will become very good at reading me.

Like I get scumread a lot as both alignments, but I am so engrossed in my out of the box thinking while town that I have to this date never been suucessful at copying it as scum without it looking fake.

But that isn't always visible to an outsider because most MS players don't know how to townread me as town.

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:52 am
by NerfedBuJ
Xtox I will make a math post as soon as I get the time. I don't know for sure what the result will be but I'm guessing odds of scum winning this would be less than 2 percent.

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:53 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
Ok.

I like you regardless of your alignment, because I can relate to the thoughts showcased in your recent post.

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:58 am
by Xtoxm
In post 3615, NerfedBuJ wrote:Xtox I will make a math post as soon as I get the time. I don't know for sure what the result will be but I'm guessing odds of scum winning this would be less than 2 percent.
even like the most unbalanced games that get passed arent as bad as 2%
theres no way
im interested to see your math, tho

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:15 am
by DrDolittle
maybe its conditional on a day 1 scum lynch

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:18 am
by DrDolittle
i'm going to take EE's read on Anka as is. I think there's scum in Vedith/Buj. Leaning more on vedith.
VOTE: Vedith

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:20 am
by Vedith
No.

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:25 am
by DrDolittle
UNVOTE:

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:27 am
by Vedith
Stop that! :lol:

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:28 am
by DrDolittle
where's your rainbow reads bud?

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:29 am
by Vedith
I can do it now, since I'm at my PC \o/