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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:43 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
ok but we have 3 town in 6 players so its not like we can even get the votes to kill MCat

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:43 am
by Dwlee99
If Meg is multitasking she has to also try to shoot house imo cause that's also the only way to win. If she shoots a townie she enters 1 - 1 - 2, which means town lims her so one of us can win with house.

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:43 am
by House
In post 3649, Dwlee99 wrote:If Meg doesn't roleblock house then they lose immediately from cult gaining a number + a kill
Not true.

They could always Target my recruit to prevent me from gaining that recruit.

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:44 am
by Dwlee99
We would end up in no limming repeatedly, because if it ever goes 2 - 1 - 2 remaining town once again side with house there

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:45 am
by House
Dwlee why do you hate me?

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:46 am
by House
In post 3653, Dwlee99 wrote:We would end up in no limming repeatedly, because if it ever goes 2 - 1 - 2 remaining town once again side with house there
And Mafia would, out of the goodness of their heart, not kill all the town to reach parity.

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:46 am
by Dwlee99
In post 3652, House wrote:
In post 3649, Dwlee99 wrote:If Meg doesn't roleblock house then they lose immediately from cult gaining a number + a kill
Not true.

They could always Target my recruit to prevent me from gaining that recruit.
But town still ends up siding with you in the scenario where we end up 1 - 1 - 2

1 - 1 - 2 and 2 - 1 - 2 are immediate losses for mafia because remaining town are forced to cult side. In a 1 - 1 - 3 scenario mafia can go to 1 - 2 and try to convince a townie to vote another townie

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:47 am
by Dwlee99
In post 3655, House wrote:
In post 3653, Dwlee99 wrote:We would end up in no limming repeatedly, because if it ever goes 2 - 1 - 2 remaining town once again side with house there
And Mafia would, out of the goodness of their heart, not kill all the town to reach parity.
If 2 - 1 - 2 then town lim the roleblocker and we end up in 1 - 1 - 2 overnight which is a cult victory. Because it ends up 1 - 2 - 1 or 1 - 1 - 1, with once again the town cult siding.

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:47 am
by Dwlee99
In post 3654, House wrote:Dwlee why do you hate me?
I'm playing to win con my dude

Also you lied that you would recruit me

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:48 am
by House
In post 3656, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3652, House wrote:
In post 3649, Dwlee99 wrote:If Meg doesn't roleblock house then they lose immediately from cult gaining a number + a kill
Not true.

They could always Target my recruit to prevent me from gaining that recruit.
But town still ends up siding with you in the scenario where we end up 1 - 1 - 2

1 - 1 - 2 and 2 - 1 - 2 are immediate losses for mafia because remaining town are forced to cult side. In a 1 - 1 - 3 scenario mafia can go to 1 - 2 and try to convince a townie to vote another townie
when the Mafia and cult are all outed, how exactly does a townie get voted?

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:48 am
by House
In post 3658, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3654, House wrote:Dwlee why do you hate me?
I'm playing to win con my dude

Also you lied that you would recruit me
Refer to 3652.

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:48 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I guess house can just flip a coin who gets recruited or w/e

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:49 am
by Dwlee99
So basically: 2 - 1 - 2 loses for mafia, 1 - 1 - 3 does not. So it's actually to mafia con for them to help us kill their buddy.

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:49 am
by Dwlee99
In post 3659, House wrote:
In post 3656, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3652, House wrote:
In post 3649, Dwlee99 wrote:If Meg doesn't roleblock house then they lose immediately from cult gaining a number + a kill
Not true.

They could always Target my recruit to prevent me from gaining that recruit.
But town still ends up siding with you in the scenario where we end up 1 - 1 - 2

1 - 1 - 2 and 2 - 1 - 2 are immediate losses for mafia because remaining town are forced to cult side. In a 1 - 1 - 3 scenario mafia can go to 1 - 2 and try to convince a townie to vote another townie
when the Mafia and cult are all outed, how exactly does a townie get voted?
Meg can try to convince most likely Pooky that I'm mafia

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:50 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
ok so the mafia help us kill murdercat

then meg roleblocks house at night

and then 1-1-3

and then what?

we vote out House?

then we vote out Meg the next day?

I mean why would the mafia agree to this?

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:50 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 3663, Dwlee99 wrote:Meg can try to convince most likely Pooky that I'm mafia
lolwut

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:51 am
by Dwlee99
In post 3664, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:ok so the mafia help us kill murdercat

then meg roleblocks house at night

and then 1-1-3

and then what?

we vote out House?

then we vote out Meg the next day?

I mean why would the mafia agree to this?
Mafia agree to this because otherwise they just straight up lose to cult. Meg has a chance to vote me out technically, cause this is also the strat I'd be coming up with as mafia to still win

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:51 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
ok Murdercat&Meg

time to negotiate

if you guys are Ascetic/Roleblocker its time to put your cards on the table cuz we're busy picking who wins

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:52 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
actually Dlee if you're mafia you can also negotiate with me

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:53 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
wait actually to perserve ambiguity about which of Dwlee/Meg is the roleblocker

Murdercat should just confess he is Mafia Ascetic and negotiate with me

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:53 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
@Murdercat we r open for negotiations

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:54 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
wait actually I could also be Mafia so it should be Ythan negotiating on behalf of the town

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:56 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
ok here's what's known (common knowledge):


There is a Mafia Roleblocker.

Ythan is aligned with the Town.

House is a Cult Leader.

Murdercat is Mafia Ascetic.


So Murdercat and Ythan should negotiate a framework where both Town and Mafia have a chance of winning.

For example:

We elim murdercat today.

The Unknown Mafia Roleblocker blocks House Tonight

We Eliminate House Tommorrow.

The Mafia Roleblocker Shoots Ythan at night.

Finally the three last people have LYLO where mafia/town both have a chance to win.

I believe this is a fair way to deal with this type of endgame.

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:56 am
by House
I'm honestly shocked that Mafia didn't fake a cc on me.

That's exactly what I would have done if I were them.

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:57 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
So Murdercat&Ythan pls work it out