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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:06 pm
by Dwlee99
What are your thoughts on Chaos DotW? Also I want to say that if gamma flips traitor then StD has lots of scum!equity because it could have been a signal from traitor!gamma that he shouldn't be night killed. If he is group scum it's WIFOMy

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:16 pm
by Dragon of the West
If Gamma is group scum it's not completely WIFOM because the best play from scum would be to "investigate" town, say they aren't in a PT, and then scum can kill the conftown each night. That flips them green so gamma is confirmed to not be lying about them being town, but town also gains no tactical advantage because scum is NKing conftowns faster than Gamma can investigate them

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:17 pm
by Dragon of the West
Thanks for reminding me about chaos. Last night I thought of some of their posts that bothered me. One sec

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:28 pm
by Dragon of the West
In post 3553, ChaosOmega wrote:UNVOTE: Andres

I think I need a reset too.
In post 3551, Gamma Emerald wrote:If I’m not dead by D6 then you can entertain yeeting me
This is where I'm at as well. Also, PT cop with functionally PT-less masons makes extremely little sense for scum to have, so I'm inclined to just call you mech-town.

In post 3532, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 3513, Gypyx wrote:Anya (7) : Titus - Dragon Of The West - DrippingGoofball - VFP - T3 - Gamma Emerald - Dwlee99 Execution
someone on this wagon is scum
I think you're right.

VOTE: Dwlee
In post 3684, ChaosOmega wrote:VOTE: Gamma
If we make the assumptions that Gamma is town and wasn't killed because no scum were in his check pool, then there's 2 scum in me, Dwlee, VFP, and ssbm. If Gamma flips town, the lim needs to be in here. I know I'm town, and I have a strong town read on VFP, so if Dwlee and ssbm aren't the last 2 scum, it's likely Gamma is just scum here. It could be that Gamma is town and scum is (Andres or Titus) & one of the aforementioned 4, but they're still gambling there that Gamma doesn't hit them with his check.
This pinged me after the fact because they went from saying they wanted to lim Gamma D6 to voting them pretty quick but it's possible the mech talk just changed their mind. Their thought process reads like town to me though. I think if Gamma flips green Chaos should be looked at, and if Gamma flips red Dwlee should be looked at. Dwlee v Chaos interactions in general read TvS to me

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:44 pm
by Dwlee99
I'd say it's TvS because their reasons for scumreading me are total garbo.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:48 pm
by ChaosOmega
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:57 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 3730, ChaosOmega wrote:Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
:lol: :lol:

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:59 pm
by Dwlee99
Oh also reminder DotW that Kyo exists in the game.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:51 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Don’t take dwlee off the table
I don’t approve of how he interacted with me just now

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:33 pm
by Dwlee99
I poked you with a stick and you bit me.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 8:28 pm
by VFP
In post 3710, Dragon of the West wrote:Tbh I'm gonna wait for VFP to be off VLA and let everyone catch up and give thoughts before settling on anything but I think I'd like to lim Gamma today
I'm back!

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:44 pm
by T3
Honestly I'm just coasting.
We have a set PoE. It's likely there are 2 scum left, so we have one mislim before we should lim Gamma to confirm the results.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:01 pm
by VFP
Either we lim Gamma today or we just don't imo.
There's no benefit to limming Gamma tomorrow instead (outside of a scum flip today)

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:00 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3734, Dwlee99 wrote:I poked you with a stick and you bit me.
Well you started asking stupid questions
You’re also the one person I think makes sense as the guilty party is the stall T3 called out previously

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:06 am
by Dwlee99
In post 3738, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3734, Dwlee99 wrote:I poked you with a stick and you bit me.
Well you started asking stupid questions
You’re also the one person I think makes sense as the guilty party is the stall T3 called out previously
The guilty party is the stall? I don't know what you mean. My questions were kinda dumb but I was trying to get you to talk about the game and you balked at it.

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:07 am
by T3
There's probably a traitor.

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:08 am
by Dwlee99
Is it you again t3? :(

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:10 am
by T3
Yes. Not_Mafia and Gypyx are the groupscum. Here, I bought you a house in the neighborhood I'm recruiting you in! Have fun!

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:12 am
by Dragon of the West
So something outlandish came to me last night: on D1 when people were "crumbing" did anyone threaten to vig Anya?
If there's a traitor in the game and Kyo is scum, Kyo could've interpreted the neighbor claim as the traitor letting the scum faction know who they were. If someone threatened to vig Anya, would scum use the jailkeeper to protect Anya from the kill? It would have the effect of roleblocking them which is how we've interpreted it until now but it's main goal could've been to protect

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:13 am
by Dragon of the West
If there's a traitor I think that points at Kyo

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:14 am
by T3
In post 3743, Dragon of the West wrote:So something outlandish came to me last night: on D1 when people were "crumbing" did anyone threaten to vig Anya?
If there's a traitor in the game and Kyo is scum, Kyo could've interpreted the neighbor claim as the traitor letting the scum faction know who they were. If someone threatened to vig Anya, would scum use the jailkeeper to protect Anya from the kill? It would have the effect of roleblocking them which is how we've interpreted it until now but it's main goal could've been to protect
Good tinfoil.

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:17 am
by Dwlee99
You know what else points to Kyo? Them not existing. Same reason chaos is probably evil.

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:42 am
by Titus
In post 3743, Dragon of the West wrote:So something outlandish came to me last night: on D1 when people were "crumbing" did anyone threaten to vig Anya?
If there's a traitor in the game and Kyo is scum, Kyo could've interpreted the neighbor claim as the traitor letting the scum faction know who they were. If someone threatened to vig Anya, would scum use the jailkeeper to protect Anya from the kill? It would have the effect of roleblocking them which is how we've interpreted it until now but it's main goal could've been to protect
Why would scum protect anya? Anya was a miselim but very hard to secure. I doubt the scumteam would protect anya as their main motivation.

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:42 am
by Titus
In post 3746, Dwlee99 wrote:You know what else points to Kyo? Them not existing. Same reason chaos is probably evil.
I can see this.

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:43 am
by Dragon of the West
In post 3745, T3 wrote:
In post 3743, Dragon of the West wrote:So something outlandish came to me last night: on D1 when people were "crumbing" did anyone threaten to vig Anya?
If there's a traitor in the game and Kyo is scum, Kyo could've interpreted the neighbor claim as the traitor letting the scum faction know who they were. If someone threatened to vig Anya, would scum use the jailkeeper to protect Anya from the kill? It would have the effect of roleblocking them which is how we've interpreted it until now but it's main goal could've been to protect
Good tinfoil.
I only use brand name tinfoil. Provides the best protection from cosmic mind control rays