Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:17 am
well we need a mafia roleblocker to exist
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:17 am
Alright but I'm not mafia
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:19 am
Your win con would be same as mafia once mcat is limmed
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:19 am
That said eliminating the roleblocker could lead to a town win VOTE: unvote
Pooky+ Dwlee make your cases
Pooky+ Dwlee make your cases
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:19 am
ok i swear i will flip a coin between dwlee and meg when we get to 3p
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:20 am
what no we need the roleblocker alive to block the cult leader
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:20 am
we elim the ascetic
roleblocker blocks the cult leader
roleblocker DOESNT kill
we then yeet cult leader,
roleblocker kills ythan cuz ythan conftown
then 3 p elo
roleblocker blocks the cult leader
roleblocker DOESNT kill
we then yeet cult leader,
roleblocker kills ythan cuz ythan conftown
then 3 p elo
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:21 am
this is the only solution set where scum and town have equal chances of winning
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:21 am
Mafia immediately loses if we lim town or the roleblocker to cult
Town immediately loses if we lim house or a townie. Soooo we lim mcat. House needs to be roleblocked so that mafia doesn't lose. Then we enter 3p
Town immediately loses if we lim house or a townie. Soooo we lim mcat. House needs to be roleblocked so that mafia doesn't lose. Then we enter 3p
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:22 am
What about roleblocker kills?
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:22 am
Roleblocker shouldn't kill unless it's a multitasked roleblock and kill against house. If the game reaches 1 - 1 - 2 (roleblocker, cult, town) then town is forced to cult side.
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:23 am
if the roleblocker blocks the cult leader and kills
we end up at 4p 1 cult leader 1 roleblocker
at this point elimming the cult leader leads to mafia win, so town will cult side and try to elim roleblocker in hopes of being recruited
we end up at 4p 1 cult leader 1 roleblocker
at this point elimming the cult leader leads to mafia win, so town will cult side and try to elim roleblocker in hopes of being recruited
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:23 am
Considering there was a mafia kill last night and the cult kill was blocked
Its multitasking
Its multitasking
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:24 am
so the ONLY way roleblocker can get rid of house is to block house AND no kill
that leads to 5p endgame where town would elim cult leader and get to 3p elo
that leads to 5p endgame where town would elim cult leader and get to 3p elo
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:24 am
yes it is multitasking
however it is also gamethrowing for the roleblocker to kill and block because that means the cult leader CANT be eliminated
however it is also gamethrowing for the roleblocker to kill and block because that means the cult leader CANT be eliminated
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:25 am
Why would roleblocker need to get rid of house
This is the problem
This is the problem
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:25 am
if the cult leader doesnt die the cult necesarily wins
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:25 am
there is no way for mafia to kill the cult leader because cult leader is bulletproof
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:27 am
Still dont like to do a situation where scum can force a draw/joint win
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:27 am
Town loss moves outside of town hands at that point
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:28 am
Just vote Mcat and roleblocker block house
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:28 am
Town and mafia's win comes down to 3p picking correctly
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:28 am
what is your suggested plan instead then?
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:31 am
We lim between us three today.
If we hit roleblocker we enter kingmaker where town can win, maybe even force a win if a TPR exists.
If we not we have the same odds as in Elo and would've lost anyway
If we hit roleblocker we enter kingmaker where town can win, maybe even force a win if a TPR exists.
If we not we have the same odds as in Elo and would've lost anyway
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:31 am
If roleblocker is limmed we can't win...