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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:21 am

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+ You brought up the issue of not lynching one of our claimed docs, possibly because you knew wed either hit your scum partner, or lynch our doc and your partner the next day.

+You were pro GL lynch once it was decided to lynch one of them

+You lynched Ziliu once it was clear that he wasn't talking his way out of it.

+ I also dont like how you felt the need to mention that there would be 2 more mafia after his lynch. Why not say, we can take care of the mafia on our own? you had to say that there were going to be 2 once he was gone, so that later you could say, see I didnt know he was really scum, so I must not be either.

+You were one of the people that Atticus had blocked the night there were no kills

+You seemed to be dead against the mass name claim early in the game (a mass claim that lead to a lynch)(Told you it would work).

+After I claimed, one of the most unlikely roles to be a safe claim, you are one of the ones to imply it was a safe claim.


=This is what I think =
Arkonas = Violet Beuragarde (SK?)
Nightfall = Granpa Joe (Town)
Atticus = Willy Wonka (I would assume town...?)
Shamrock = Mrs. Gloop (Scum?)
Lee = Agustus Gloop (Cleared by not being dead night after night 1)

Also if Atticus is telling the truth about who he blocked, then at least one of Arkonas and/or Shamrock have to be scum since there were no kills that night, and now there are two.
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:23 am

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*scum in last sentence = *SK
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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:37 pm

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Nightfall wrote:+You were pro GL lynch once it was decided to lynch one of them
So were you.
Nightfall wrote:+You lynched Ziliu once it was clear that he wasn't talking his way out of it.
So did you.
Nightfall wrote:+ I also dont like how you felt the need to mention that there would be 2 more mafia after his lynch. Why not say, we can take care of the mafia on our own? you had to say that there were going to be 2 once he was gone, so that later you could say, see I didnt know he was really scum, so I must not be either.
I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say here. I was assuming that he was actually an SK and there would, therefore, be mafia left.
Nightfall wrote:+You were one of the people that Atticus had blocked the night there were no kills
Fair enough, but so was Akonas.
Nightfall wrote:+You seemed to be against the mass name claim early in the game (a mass claim that lead to a lynch)(Told you it would work).
Because I didn't it was likely we'd get any counterclaims. Obviously I was wrong.
Nightfall wrote:+After I claimed, one of the most unlikely roles to be a safe claim, you are one of the ones to imply it was a safe claim.
No, I said it COULD be a safe claim and we shouldn't completely disregard the possibility. I didn't say it definitely was.
Nightfall wrote:Also if Atticus is telling the truth about who he blocked, then at least one of Arkonas and/or Shamrock have to be scum since there were no kills that night, and now there are two.
There could very well be someone else who stopped scum (ie. a backup doc).
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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:26 pm

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In point two I ment that you placed the lynching vote on Ziliu.

As for the final point, are you gonna claim backup doc?
Because if neither you or Arkona are backup docs, there goes that arguement.

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I'm a townie
Atticus is a one shot role blocker
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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:43 pm

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Why are you and Lee cleared?
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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:48 pm

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I didnt say were cleared, my point was that we aren't backup docs, were not immunes, or reflectors, or anything else that can block a kill. SO either you or Arkonas can protect against nightkills in some way, or at least one of you is a killer.
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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:06 pm

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Well, Nightfall and Shamrock seem to be the only two left, and they both seem to be incriminating each other rather well. One more scum seems reasonable; why not lynch both of them?

I'll post more later, when I have more time.
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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:11 pm

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Oh no you dont, you dont get out that easily Arkonas.
Keep in mind that on a night where you and Shamrock were role blocked, there were no kills. why would that happen if I was scum? wouldn't my kill have gone through.

The why not lynch both of them makes your case even that much worse. right now we are looking at a suspected line up of 3 towns 1 scum and 1 sk. We dont really have an option of lynching wrong today to lynch right tommorrow. It is very likely that we could wakeup tommorrow to have 1sk and 1mafia if we lynch wrong today.

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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:51 pm

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Well, we have two possibilities. One is that the mafia got a one-time second kill. The other is that we have two killing groups. Since (two?) mafia have died already, I think that the former may be more likely. Think about it this way:
1. Two opposing scum
(a)We lynch right. We have to nab the other guy tomorrow.
(b)We lynch wrong. Prisoners' Dilemma tomorrow.
2. One scum.
(a)We lynch right. Town wins!!
(b)We lynch wrong. We still have one more chance tomorrow.
Either way, it doesn't look
that
bad for town.

Also, Nighfall, don't outgess the mod. I know a lot of mods try to put wacky things in to confuse the town.

Hmm. What happened to Atticus and LML?
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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:10 pm

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How am I trying to outguess the mod at this point?

P.S. I think it is much more likely that we have 1 scum and 1 sk left, and they were either doc blocked or role blocked on the nights they didnt kill.
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:43 am

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Nightfall wrote:
MOD: Could we get a replacement for Lee already?
He assured me in private during the night he would be active, I don't start days with inactives... I'll prod him again.
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:24 am

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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:27 pm

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I'm sorry everyone, I've been ultra-sick.
Unvote, Vote: Shamrock
because if one of the people I blocked is being more suspicious its him. Akonas, to me, anyway, seems to be taking everything very reasonably, whilst Shamrock is denying and asking, in my opinion, obvious questions.
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:09 am

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Vote Count (3 to lynch):


Shamrock: 1
(Atticus)

Not Voting: Nightfall, LoudMouthLee, Akonas, Shamrock
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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:42 am

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I'm going to vote Shamrock (90% sure), but I am going to wait for Lee to comment first.
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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:23 am

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Nightfall wrote:How am I trying to outguess the mod at this point?

P.S. I think it is much more likely that we have 1 scum and 1 sk left, and they were either doc blocked or role blocked on the nights they didnt kill.
Well, I guess my point is, we can get information from roles, but we can't ever be
sure
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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2006 3:34 am

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Is it possible we might have a vigilante as one of our killers? Or would he have come out already, but anyway, since everyone seems to be waiting on something, I'm just forming suspicions and thinking deeply. So umm, if there is a vigilante, please come out. Then we'd have a better chance I think.

Nightfall, not to make Lee sound like a bad guy or anything, but I don't think we can hold off anything for him, he's not being active at all, and I just think that we should just-a move on.

Oh and uh, Mr. Mod, I just noticed something in the vote count, W!nt3r isn't in the game anymore, uh, he's dead, and Nightfall is alive but not included in that.
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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:24 am

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Okay. Someone readers digest this...
Ziliu = SK, no counterclaim.
Shamrock's claim = ?
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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:25 am

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And Atticus, I'd appreciate if we'd let the mod and myself speak for our conversations, not pushing the day along.

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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:09 am

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Atticus wrote:
Oh and uh, Mr. Mod, I just noticed something in the vote count, W!nt3r isn't in the game anymore, uh, he's dead, and Nightfall is alive but not included in that.
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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:39 am

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Erm, I'm sorry, but I have a hard time understanding what you're saying here
LML wrote:Okay. Someone readers digest this...
Ziliu = SK, no counterclaim.
Shamrock's claim = ?
and here
And Atticus, I'd appreciate if we'd let the mod and myself speak for our conversations, not pushing the day along.

FoS: Atticus
Could you please explain whatever it is you are talking about right now?
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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:59 am

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Shamrock's vote on the doctor is enough to make my stomach hurt.

Vote: Shamrock
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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:14 am

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LmL, that doesn't tell us anything at all, please notice that Nightfall and myself both voted for GreenLiquid on the day he was lynched. It would help if we could get some input from everyone, eh? But only input from everyone that means something and is valid, maybe? But somehow you don't seem to be offering us the valid stuff, and you're barely even inputting, it just seems lazy to me.
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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:21 am

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Im nearly ready to finish Shamrock off, but I would like to hear a little more reasoning from Lee first.

@Lee, can you confirm that you are a basic townie?
If so that leaves us with two townies a used up one time roleblocker, a scum and a sk.
Okay. Someone readers digest this...
Ziliu = SK, no counterclaim.
Shamrock's claim = ?
Does the Shamrock line just mean that you doubt his claim?

@Atticus, I really doubt we'd have a vig left at this point, they should have already claimed who they were by this point. Are 2 night kills are very likely both scum.
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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:25 am

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Agustus Gloop, lover of all chocolate and fatass, basic townie.

I don't believe his claim. His swinging of the balance of the Doc lynch.

Can someone tell me everyone's claim and their actions?
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