I start catching-up soon, although I doubt I'll be up-to-date today. Reasons will be revealed tomorrow.
If there anything I should be particularly aware of, point it out, please!
Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 7:09 pm
by Egg
For projectmatt, my reads in order:
Town reads:
ETL
Zakk
Drmy
Projectmatt
Weak town:
Persivul
Titus
Thebrawl
Copper
Magna
Null:
heuristically_alone
Desmond
Anen
I am innocent
Nosferatu
Weak scum:
Lowell
Alban
Scum reads:
Cytheflyguy
Seth
Killthestory
Ircher
And you asked me about zakk. I just saw his scum game and if he deliberately changed his meta over the course of a week or two, he's done an amazing job of it. I think it's much more likely this is town zakk
In post 72, zakk wrote:Only 5/21 players have posted so far and we're already on page 3, almost page 4...
Unvote
I'll be back when there's something worth reading...
Why announce this? This seems off.
Actually he was right.
By catching up I thought the same. So far those "noisies" can go either way. Townreading Copper, see above.
Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 7:24 pm
by SethYazura
In post 304, copper223 wrote:
@Seth
If you are hard claiming SK we can use you as a vig and give you brownie points when we win, how about it?
Unfortunately I am not hard claiming SK.
In post 366, cytheflyguy wrote:I have read nothing and everything at the same time. Ircher seems most scum atm so I'll go with him for now
VOTE: Ircher
Can you please elaborate on this? You have only made 2 posts so far and you are sheeping, why can't you tell us a good reason that Ircher seems most scum? VOTE: cytheflyguy
I will retract my vote if you give me a sufficient explaination
In post 29, copper223 wrote:If you caught Ircher scum on page 1 I'll be happy to go next.
VOTE: Cooper
No, Titus.
Or at least, I can tell this: I often use the same logic as town.
In post 81, Titus wrote:Cooper RVSes Ircher.
If Cooper thinks Ircher is scum, why would cooper be ok with being lynched for being correct? If cooper thinks Ircher is town, why is Cooper still voting him?
Okay, I might be biased because of my own gameplay, but I often keep my RVS despite my reads for a while, before I find a real scumread.
In post 112, Egg wrote:Killthestory, then why didn't you answer directly? And why didn't you say you were town the first time you brought it up? How often would you say you lie as scum?
Ircher, "1" is correct and obviously wasn't my point. And I disagree with your "2" or I wouldn't be voting you.
this is honestly one of the stupidest posts ive ever seen
Not worse than most things happening on early-Day-1.
Btw, townvibes; because of posts like this. (A kind of "I'm town and I can't trust anything or anyone" game-start.)
In post 125, Titus wrote:
Defending yourself is stupid. It's something I found out a long time ago. Find the
actual scum
focus the fuck on them. That's why when someone accuses me of tunnelling the first thing I ask my suspect is who the hell is actually scum. Talk about that. Which do you think are scum diverting from Copper?
I seriously doubt Titus would be coaching Ircher in such a blatant way. It's more likely that she wanted to remove some noise. And it's very likely that they're not scums together.
In post 142, Killthestory wrote:THATS THE STUPIDEST THING IVE EVER HEARD HOW CAN ME TELLING YOU IM TOWN SWAY YOU IN ANY WAY AT ALL
AT ALL
WHAT
Is it something personal between you and Egg? If not, I don't get it.
In post 102, TehBrawlGuy wrote:The whole statistics discussion is stupid and doesn't read natural. Feels like a poor attempt at distancing to me, as does Ircher's "go vote shotty". VOTE: Ircher
Copper case has no real merit imo. Copper had no reason to unvote/vote anyone else, but also no reason to actually believe Ircher was more likely to be scum than anyone else at the time.
Primarily because in this post, he is setting himself up to vote for both Shotty/Ircher as opposed to taking one side. It looks like he's trying really hard to agree with both players at the same time.
Also, I want to see him under pressure.
He may be right. I should pay attention to TehBrawlGuy on the forthcoming pages. (I found his 171, which was "reactive".)
In post 164, Titus wrote:I am interacting w Copper but as of now, his trajectory is crap.
In post 174, SethYazura wrote:If I am scum that would be a serious problem, accidentaly lynching your own teammates
or the sk
, effectively reducing the kills per night in a large game will lead to your demise
Where DID that highlighted part come from???!
In post 178, SethYazura wrote:UNVOTE: Copper223
Don't take it seriously Copper, I'm not like those idiots that chase at you with ropes for hanging just because you're Copper.
This is getting too stupid, why can't we just get along, the adventure haven't started yet and we are already quarreling and sending death threats just because, all that preparations for nothing.
That makes very little sense. Those players are very unlikely scums together. And yet again, where are those posts about having a third party from?!
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8 pages so far and I don't think I'll have time for more today.
Thoughts right now.
Could be town:
Titus (something I can't put my finger on is there in her posts which is there when she's town)
Egg (mostly recent direct meta)
Killthestory (see above)
Copper (although his 167 is not good)
Could be scum:
Ircher (those statistics + his townplay I know was very different)
Zakk (too much early noise and 85)
Shotty (too much early noise and I don't know whether it's relevant or not but that 185 bothers me)
Seth (basically everything so far)
No real opinion on the others yet.
Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 8:05 pm
by Killthestory
i have nothing against egg, but i simply cannot understand why hes scumreading me for saying that im obviously going to pick the right choice, which is town. asking me my alignment is so fucking dumb
Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 8:46 pm
by SethYazura
It's not wrong to assume there is an sk in a large game, saying there is an sk in a large game does not make me scum. If there isn't one then this game is heavily in favor of us.
Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 11:40 pm
by copper223
@Aneninen
In regards to Nosferatu:
In post 381, Aneninen wrote:You took the effort to make a quote-wall out of Irchers' with a conclusion of "null". Then you posted a sheep-vote for Copper.
In regards to me voting Nosferatu:
???
Explain.
Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 11:41 pm
by copper223
In post 383, SethYazura wrote:It's not wrong to assume there is an sk in a large game, saying there is an sk in a large game does not make me scum. If there isn't one then this game is heavily in favor of us.
In post 323, cytheflyguy wrote:I got to page 11 and I got busy lol. I'll try to finish everything in a bit
In post 366, cytheflyguy wrote:I have read nothing and everything at the same time. Ircher seems most scum atm so I'll go with him for now
VOTE: Ircher
I dunno what this is. I think votes on him are lazier than these posts though.
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 4:06 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
zakk looks like scum too tbh
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 4:10 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
tbg is scum. lotta words with zero actual content. he never explains why he thinks what he thinks beyond "it didn't sit right with me".
VOTE: tbg
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 4:58 am
by Titus
@anen, so you'd deliberately have your vote on a townread?
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 5:30 am
by Desmond_13
I am here. Wow.. 16 pages is a lot to catch up on. Give me some time.
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 5:35 am
by Egg
Seth, see post 315. I didn't like your RVS vote on a wagon with momentum on Page 7. If Copper flips scum, as I acknowledged, this would be null. I also pointed out your reaction to being voted and something you said that sounded like you expect everyone else to scumhunt for you.
Projectmatt, my concerns with Lowell are still the same as I said in post 316. I can usually follow his thought process better than most people and a lot of the time even agree with his reads. Here, it's just different. Specifically, I don't know where he's coming from on Titus, Persivul, Thebrawl, and Seth. I asked him to go into more detail, but he hasn't posted yet since I asked. And as for my weak town read on Titus, see post 144 where I said I believe that she believes in her case. That seems like town Titus, assuming there isn't a second scum team she's hunting. The way she's going after drmy about ETL reads as town Titus too even though the whole arguement seems a bit ridiculous to me.
Anen, I'm curious what meta point you think you have on me. My 103 is null at best. It's just me catching up. I hope you're not scum just looking for a reason for an easy town read on me. You've seen me play well as scum so you not being paranoid of me has me worried that your town read might not be genuine. Although I think you did it last game too and I didn't question it because you were already obvtown when I replaced in. So maybe I'm overthinking it. Also, on drmy and zakk, is early noise really a scumtell?
