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Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:38 am
by Kublai Khan
Let's try this again.

Bacde, explain the case on Nachomamma8 like I'm a 4 year old.

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:50 am
by Bacde
Right now the case is:

A nacho flip will inform thAd in the most significant way for him to be able to make an effective vig kill

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:53 am
by Desperado
In post 3760, Desperado wrote:
Unvote
Vote: Nero Cain
Not sure what I was thinking here

Unvote
Vote: Amethyst Kitty


This is much better.

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:56 am
by Bacde
Yo Desp

we are lynching nacho

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:57 am
by Bacde
Also I'm super confident about my ability to read nacho right now

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:05 am
by Desperado
In post 3778, Bacde wrote:Yo Desp

we are lynching nacho
I really don't think you're gonna get support for that lynch. If you can show me that you have the votes I'll change, but I'm more confident in push through an AK lynch

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:06 am
by Nero Cain
We aren't shooting or lynching me at all. Bcade and Nacho want me dead for shit all reason and it makes me paranoid.

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:11 am
by Bacde
I can understand your paranoia

I'm paranoid about you too man

but I'm pretty sure that nacho will flip scum which means that AK would be shot

Who would be better for getting shot if nacho flips town? Me? I'll substitute in for you to be shot if you're really that afraid.

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:14 am
by Nero Cain
.....................

my point is that there's no reason at all to suspect me other than the fact that I suspect both of you so it looks like nothing more than OMGUS. wHY DO YOU SUSPECT ME bACDE?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:29 am
by Kublai Khan
In post 686, Bacde wrote:town-nacho would not have tunneled this idiotic OS case for this long

but its the perfect case for him to push as scum

until I REPLACE IN AND CALL HIM OUT ON IT
Is this your Nachomamma8 scum case?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:40 am
by mastin2
Two new pages?

Eighty-Second Votecount
:
(Fifteenth Votecount of Day Three,
AKA, the "Be careful what you wish for. :P" votecount.
)


ThAdmiral - 3 (penguin_alien, Human Destroyer, CrashTextDummie)

Amethyst Kitty - 3 (Kublai Khan, Slandaar, Desperado)

Cephrir - 2 (ArcAngel9, Seanald)
Bacde - 2 (Bulbazak, Rena)
Nachomamma8 - 2 (Nero Cain, Bacde)
Nero Cain - 1 (Nachomamma8)
Kublai Khan - 1 (Amethyst Kitty)
penguin_alien - 1 (Cephrir)

Not Voting - 3 (PeregrineV, ThAdmiral, ffullisade)

With
18
alive, it's
10
to lynch.

Day Three's deadline is Monday, July 1st, @ 12:30 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-07-01 12:30:00).

Bulbazak is V/LA over weekends indefinitely.
ArcAngel9 is V/LA until Wednesday, Jun 19th.
mastin2, the moderator, is V/LA for...a while.


Spoiler: Changes from last votecount
ThAdmiral - 3 (
Desperado
,
Slandaar
,
Cephrir
, penguin_alien, Human Destroyer,
Nachomamma8
,
CrashTextDummie
)
Bacde - 2 (
Kublai Khan
, Bulbazak, Rena)
Cephrir - 2 (ArcAngel9, Seanald)
Nachomamma8 - 2 (Nero Cain,
Bacde
)
Seanald - 0 (
Bacde
)
Kublai Khan - 1 (Amethyst Kitty)
Nero Cain - 1 (
Nachomamma8
,
Desperado(1)
)
Amethyst Kitty - 3 (
Kublai Khan
,
Slandaar
,
Desperado(2)
)
penguin_alien - 1 (
Cephrir
)

Not Voting - 3 (
CrashTextDummie
, PeregrineV, ThAdmiral, ffullisade)
Last votecount was page 151, post 3751.

Spoiler: Player Votecount History D3
CrashTextDummie: ThAdmiral
Cephrir: Rena->ThAdmiral->penguin_alien
Nachomamma8: ThAdmiral->Nero Cain->PeregrineV->Slandaar->Amethyst Kitty->ThAdmiral->Nero Cain
PeregrineV:
Nero Cain: Rena->Nachomamma8
Bacde: Nachomamma8->Rena->Nachomamma8->Unvote->ThAdmiral->Seanald->Nachomamma8
Bulbazak: ffullisade->Bacde
Desperado: ThAdmiral->Rena->ThAdmiral->Nero Cain->Amethyst Kitty
penguin_alien: ThAdmiral
Slandaar: Amethyst Kitty->Rena->Desperado->ThAdmiral->Amethyst Kitty
Seanald: Rena->Cephrir
ThAdmiral:
Rena: Bacde
Kublai Khan: Bacde->Amethyst Kitty
Amethyst Kitty: Seanald->Kublai Khan
ffullisade: Rena->Unvote
Human Destroyer: Rena->ThAdmiral
ArcAngel9: Cephrir


Spoiler: Votecount History D3
On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 02:30p,
Bacde
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 3367.
On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 02:40p,
Nachomamma8
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3375.
On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 05:23p,
Nero Cain
votes
Rena
in post 3385.
On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 06:01p,
Nachomamma8
votes
Nero Cain
in post 3388.
On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 11:14p,
Kublai Khan
votes
Bacde
in post 3397.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 04:18a,
Slandaar
votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3406.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 08:55a,
Desperado
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3417.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 12:32p,
Bubazak
votes
ffullisade
in post 3432.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 03:04p,
ArcAngel9
votes
Cephrir
in post 3444.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 06:46p,
ffullisade
votes
Rena
in post 3462.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 09:08p,
Seanald
votes
Rena
in post 3467.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 11:07a,
Desperado
votes
Rena
in post 3489.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 12:41p,
Bacde
votes
Rena
in post 3522.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 01:45p,
Slandaar
votes
Rena
in post 3528.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 02:15p,
Bulbazak
unvotes
ffullisade
and votes
Bacde
in post 3537.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 02:42p,
ffullisade
unvotes
Rena
in post 3543.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 03:04p,
Bacde
unvotes
Rena
and votes
Nachomamma8
in post 3548.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 03:48p,
Nachomamma8
votes
PeregrineV
in post 3584.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 03:49p,
Nachomamma8
votes
Slandaar
in post 3585.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 03:50p,
Nachomamma8
votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3586.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 06:07p,
Nero Cain
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 3623.
On Thu, Jun 6/13/13 @ 03:49a,
Slandaar
votes
Desperado
in post 3625.
On Thu, Jun 6/13/13 @ 10:02a,
Human Destroyer
votes
Rena
in post 3633.
On Fri, Jun 6/14/13 @ 10:06a,
Bacde
unvotes
Nachomamma8
in post 3671.
On Fri, Jun 6/14/13 @ 11:16a,
Desperado
unvotes
Rena
and votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3672.
On Fri, Jun 6/14/13 @ 11:30a,
Bacde
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3673.
On Fri, Jun 6/14/13 @ 12:08p,
Slandaar
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3678.
On Sat, Jun 6/15/13 @ 06:50a,
Cephrir
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3711.
On Sat, Jun 6/15/13 @ 10:31p,
Seanald
unvotes
Rena
and votes
Cephrir
in post 3730.
On Sat, Jun 6/15/13 @ 11:17p,
Bacde
votes
Seanald
in post 3731.
On Sat, Jun 6/15/13 @ 11:59p,
Amethyst Kitty
votes
Seanald
in post 3732.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 00:18a,
Amethyst Kitty
votes
Kublai Khan
in post 3733.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 01:07p,
penguin_alien
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3740.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 03:07p,
Human Destroyer
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3745.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 03:18p,
Nachomamma8
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3746.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 05:10p,
CrashTextDummie
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3752.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 11:05p,
Nachomamma8
unvotes
ThAdmiral
and votes
Nero Cain
in post 3759.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 11:28p,
Desperado
unvotes
ThAdmiral
and votes
Nero Cain
in post 3760.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 06:02a,
Kublai Khan
votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3769.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 06:50a,
Slandaar
votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3771.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 07:28a,
Cephrir
unvotes
ThAdmiral
and votes
penguin_alien
in post 3772.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 09:29a,
Bacde
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 3774.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 09:53a,
Desperado
unvotes
Nero Cain
and votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3777.

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:49 am
by Bacde
In post 3783, Nero Cain wrote:.....................

my point is that there's no reason at all to suspect me other than the fact that I suspect both of you so it looks like nothing more than OMGUS. wHY DO YOU SUSPECT ME bACDE?
I dunno, I don't particularly suspect you beyond OMGUS (especially because I don't understand why you have had a continuing suspicion of me for a few days)

but Nacho is a good scumhunter, and he suspects you

so I figure if we flip nacho and he winds up town you'd be a good vig shot

but I'm willing to substitute in your place its not a big deal especially since I'm pretty sure nacho is scum

are you being defensive right now? Its hard for me to tell whats going on inside your head

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:49 am
by Amethyst Kitty
In post 3769, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 3765, Amethyst Kitty wrote:No cuz ur still scum. Our slot and penguin would be a better venue to go after than bacde. There is nothing he has done that is even remotely scummy. You need death.
You really want to go 1 on 1?

Okay. This is the perfect time to do it.

Vote: Amethyst Kitty
I don't do 1vs1 get over yourself. 1vs1 don't help anyone in my mind and sometimes are used as a scum advantage because it gets everyone so wrapped up in it and people forget to hunt.
In post 3771, Slandaar wrote:Sure lets lynch AK although not explicitly stating it they have done the same omgus thing with me. Not enough scumreads and I also don't like how Mara said something like 'everyone reading Mala town but im part of this hydra too!' its like she wanted credit for playing scum while looking town.

VOTE: AK
So Slandaar because Thor flipped town it gives you a reason to justify your 180 switch. Are you town because I'm no longer sure you are, but still not enough here to vote you.

No because I know how frustrating it is for someone to read one half of a hydra as town and the other as scum, but they take the meta of the strongest read. If we didn't tell you we were a hydra it would have been a totally different story and you would have been reading us differently during Day 1.
In post 3772, Cephrir wrote:Scumreading AK but I have better ideas.

Unvote, Vote: penguin_alien
Sure side-line your vote and then when the time is right (when the wagon grows higher and higher) you'll vote us.
Not sure what I was thinking here

Unvote
Vote: Amethyst Kitty

This is much better.
Desperado? Are you going to sheep everyone and everything and not do an ounce of scum hunting?

~~~

Bacade stfu. You aren't fucking obv town. So just stfu.

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:52 am
by Desperado
In post 3787, Amethyst Kitty wrote:Desperado? Are you going to sheep everyone and everything and not do an ounce of scum hunting?
I've been considering your lynch for a while now. I asked Nacho about it yesterday. You're pretty scummy.

So is this reaction. Which I just got from you by placing my vote on you.

How am I not scumhunting again?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:55 am
by Amethyst Kitty
In post 3788, Desperado wrote:
In post 3787, Amethyst Kitty wrote:Desperado? Are you going to sheep everyone and everything and not do an ounce of scum hunting?
I've been considering your lynch for a while now. I asked Nacho about it yesterday. You're pretty scummy.

So is this reaction. Which I just got from you by placing my vote on you.

How am I not scumhunting again?
You have literally sheeped onto every highest wagon this game day so far.

You went onto Thad, Rena, Nero and us.

You're just jumping. Was Thad, Rena and Nero even scum reads for you prior?

This reaction is Mala catching up from the godawful mess everyone is making.

I solo'd out Mollie for a reason for the Thad read. Regardless of him claiming vig she caught him in the open finished game where 'Mara/Mala/Mollie' hydra'd together. I was reading him different, but wasn't going to stop a wagon to do wagon analysis sometime in the near future. I wanted to see what she would say, tbh.

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:59 am
by Cephrir
AK wrote:
In post 3772, Cephrir wrote:Scumreading AK but I have better ideas.

Unvote, Vote: penguin_alien
Sure side-line your vote and then when the time is right (when the wagon grows higher and higher) you'll vote us.
I'm putting my vote where I honestly want it, but yeah, I'm probably going to wind up voting you since I didn't get any traction. Is that a problem?Preview: It helps.

<<< For the record, I'll generally fix for you any broken quote tags I catch, so there's generally not a need to repost the message with fixed quote tags unless you screwed them up so badly that I can't tell how to fix them. :P Original post with the broken tags has been deleted. >>>

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:02 am
by Desperado
In post 3789, Amethyst Kitty wrote:
In post 3788, Desperado wrote:
In post 3787, Amethyst Kitty wrote:Desperado? Are you going to sheep everyone and everything and not do an ounce of scum hunting?
I've been considering your lynch for a while now. I asked Nacho about it yesterday. You're pretty scummy.

So is this reaction. Which I just got from you by placing my vote on you.

How am I not scumhunting again?
You have literally sheeped onto every highest wagon this game day so far.

You went onto Thad, Rena, Nero and us.

You're just jumping. Was Thad, Rena and Nero even scum reads for you prior?

This reaction is Mala catching up from the godawful mess everyone is making.

I solo'd out Mollie for a reason for the Thad read. Regardless of him claiming vig she caught him in the open finished game where 'Mara/Mala/Mollie' hydra'd together. I was reading him different, but wasn't going to stop a wagon to do wagon analysis sometime in the near future. I wanted to see what she would say, tbh.
Why are you making judgements on my votes if you don't know the answer to this question?

And you should stop using words like "literally" where they don't belong. I was the first vote on Thad.

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:03 am
by Amethyst Kitty
In post 3790, Cephrir wrote:
AK wrote:
In post 3772, Cephrir wrote:Scumreading AK but I have better ideas.

Unvote, Vote: penguin_alien
Sure side-line your vote and then when the time is right (when the wagon grows higher and higher) you'll vote us.
I'm putting my vote where I honestly want it, but yeah, I'm probably going to wind up voting you since I didn't get any traction. Is that a problem?Preview: It helps.
One word:

Opportunism.

____

Screw waiting for Mara. I just glanced at Despo's ISO. I see stuff that could be considering distancing from Thez. Along with the fact he's sheeped through this day stage, 180'd other reads and has barely talked to half the other players. Defending Seanald from Bacade. Which I found very odd considering I'm scum reading Seanald.

VOTE: Despo

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:05 am
by Amethyst Kitty
In post 3791, Desperado wrote:
In post 3789, Amethyst Kitty wrote:
In post 3788, Desperado wrote:
In post 3787, Amethyst Kitty wrote:Desperado? Are you going to sheep everyone and everything and not do an ounce of scum hunting?
I've been considering your lynch for a while now. I asked Nacho about it yesterday. You're pretty scummy.

So is this reaction. Which I just got from you by placing my vote on you.

How am I not scumhunting again?
You have literally sheeped onto every highest wagon this game day so far.

You went onto Thad, Rena, Nero and us.

You're just jumping. Was Thad, Rena and Nero even scum reads for you prior?

This reaction is Mala catching up from the godawful mess everyone is making.

I solo'd out Mollie for a reason for the Thad read. Regardless of him claiming vig she caught him in the open finished game where 'Mara/Mala/Mollie' hydra'd together. I was reading him different, but wasn't going to stop a wagon to do wagon analysis sometime in the near future. I wanted to see what she would say, tbh.
Why are you making judgements on my votes if you don't know the answer to this question?

And you should stop using words like "literally" where they don't belong. I was the first vote on Thad.
You make it sound like I haven't, but I actually did. I just didn't read fully through it.

Why don't you stop deflecting and answer the question?

Nope I won't stop using literally. Don't nitpick my wording #1 pet peeve of mine.

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:07 am
by Kublai Khan
In post 3787, Amethyst Kitty wrote:I don't do 1vs1 get over yourself. 1vs1 don't help anyone in my mind and sometimes are used as a scum advantage because it gets everyone so wrapped up in it and people forget to hunt.
Wait, what? You called me scummy and vote for me when there's a wagon on thAdmiral going on. But when that wagon disintegrates and I vote you back, you back off?


In post 3765, Amethyst Kitty wrote:No cuz ur still scum. Our slot and penguin would be a better venue to go after than bacde. There is nothing he has done that is even remotely scummy. You need death.
In post 3787, Amethyst Kitty wrote:Bacade stfu. You aren't fucking obv town. So just stfu.

How is Bacde both "not remotely scummy"
and
"not fucking obvtown" at the same time?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:09 am
by Desperado
In post 3793, Amethyst Kitty wrote:
In post 3791, Desperado wrote:
In post 3789, Amethyst Kitty wrote:
In post 3788, Desperado wrote:
In post 3787, Amethyst Kitty wrote:Desperado? Are you going to sheep everyone and everything and not do an ounce of scum hunting?
I've been considering your lynch for a while now. I asked Nacho about it yesterday. You're pretty scummy.

So is this reaction. Which I just got from you by placing my vote on you.

How am I not scumhunting again?
You have literally sheeped onto every highest wagon this game day so far.

You went onto Thad, Rena, Nero and us.

You're just jumping. Was Thad, Rena and Nero even scum reads for you prior?

This reaction is Mala catching up from the godawful mess everyone is making.

I solo'd out Mollie for a reason for the Thad read. Regardless of him claiming vig she caught him in the open finished game where 'Mara/Mala/Mollie' hydra'd together. I was reading him different, but wasn't going to stop a wagon to do wagon analysis sometime in the near future. I wanted to see what she would say, tbh.
Why are you making judgements on my votes if you don't know the answer to this question?

And you should stop using words like "literally" where they don't belong. I was the first vote on Thad.
You make it sound like I haven't, but I actually did. I just didn't read fully through it.

Why don't you stop deflecting and answer the question?

Nope I won't stop using literally. Don't nitpick my wording #1 pet peeve of mine.
If you had already did it then you would know that I had you as potential scum yesterday, and that I had some interactions with Thad on D1 that played into my read on him.

I won't nitpick your wording if it doesn't result in you saying something that is inaccurate. I did not "literally" voting every leading wagon if I was the first person to vote Thad.

Show me the distancing from Thezmon.

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:12 am
by Amethyst Kitty
In post 3794, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 3787, Amethyst Kitty wrote:I don't do 1vs1 get over yourself. 1vs1 don't help anyone in my mind and sometimes are used as a scum advantage because it gets everyone so wrapped up in it and people forget to hunt.
Wait, what? You called me scummy and vote for me when there's a wagon on thAdmiral going on. But when that wagon disintegrates and I vote you back, you back off?


In post 3765, Amethyst Kitty wrote:No cuz ur still scum. Our slot and penguin would be a better venue to go after than bacde. There is nothing he has done that is even remotely scummy. You need death.
In post 3787, Amethyst Kitty wrote:Bacade stfu. You aren't fucking obv town. So just stfu.

How is Bacde both "not remotely scummy"
and
"not fucking obvtown" at the same time?
Note the first two are from Mara and this is Mala speaking.

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:12 am
by Desperado
In post 3794, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 3787, Amethyst Kitty wrote:I don't do 1vs1 get over yourself. 1vs1 don't help anyone in my mind and sometimes are used as a scum advantage because it gets everyone so wrapped up in it and people forget to hunt.
Wait, what? You called me scummy and vote for me when there's a wagon on thAdmiral going on. But when that wagon disintegrates and I vote you back, you back off?
She's also lying, because she was 100% ready to 1v1 me in Pokemon Nuzlocke before GNR went missing.

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:15 am
by Desperado
In post 3797, Desperado wrote:
In post 3794, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 3787, Amethyst Kitty wrote:I don't do 1vs1 get over yourself. 1vs1 don't help anyone in my mind and sometimes are used as a scum advantage because it gets everyone so wrapped up in it and people forget to hunt.
Wait, what? You called me scummy and vote for me when there's a wagon on thAdmiral going on. But when that wagon disintegrates and I vote you back, you back off?
She's also lying, because she was 100% ready to 1v1 me in Pokemon Nuzlocke before GNR went missing.
If Mara was speaking then this doesn't hold

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:17 am
by Kublai Khan
In post 3798, Desperado wrote:
In post 3797, Desperado wrote:
In post 3794, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 3787, Amethyst Kitty wrote:I don't do 1vs1 get over yourself. 1vs1 don't help anyone in my mind and sometimes are used as a scum advantage because it gets everyone so wrapped up in it and people forget to hunt.
Wait, what? You called me scummy and vote for me when there's a wagon on thAdmiral going on. But when that wagon disintegrates and I vote you back, you back off?
She's also lying, because she was 100% ready to 1v1 me in Pokemon Nuzlocke before GNR went missing.
If Mara was speaking then this doesn't hold
3787 is Mala.
3765 is Mara.
So the discongruity of the Bacde read is just stupid hydra shenanigans.
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