Open 781: JK9++ Game Over!

[Menalque]

We’re not doing datisi or bingle when there are mechanical reasons to think that they’re both more likely to be town than scum

[Something_Smart]

Skitter fakeclaimed in an open and made it to lylo.

If you're talking about Venrob's PYP, that wasn't really a fakeclaim because she had the other half of the role she claimed.

[Menalque]

Yes, scum who is *checks notes* fakeclaiming PR in an open setup with 2 mislynches remaining before lylo
Checks out, makes sense

Yeah, I was going to say the best move is to massclaim VT/not VT to ensure that we know where we stand, but that may not be necessary.

We should however probably say that you and Blake should retract now if you're fakeclaiming, or you will be lynched later if another PR flips.

I’m not fakeclaiming and have a crumb of my exact role from D1 that will also fit with my progression D2 on datisi and I crumbed both of my results quite blatantly too

[Something_Smart]

We’re not doing datisi or bingle when there are mechanical reasons to think that they’re both more likely to be town than scum

I assume this isn't what you meant, because there's a mechanical reason to think that everyone is more likely town than scum, namely that there are (presumably) seven townies alive and one scum.

But even if you meant "there's a mechanical reason to think that they are more likely town than they would be by chance", that isn't the be-all end-all; it's just another probability to factor in. So it makes them less likely to be the best lynch, but they shouldn't be off the table.

[MariaR]

We’re not doing datisi or bingle when there are mechanical reasons to think that they’re both more likely to be town than scum

If a no visit track result n1 or n2 is your reasoning than that isn't gonna stop me when they have the worst ISOs in the game

[PenguinPower]

Are we auto then?

[Something_Smart]

I’m not fakeclaiming and have a crumb of my exact role from D1 that will also fit with my progression D2 on datisi and I crumbed both of my results quite blatantly too

[MariaR]

Are we auto then?

Not even close.

[Menalque]

They should be off the table for today because the only person who should be on the table today is PP who has (1) no mechanical reason to be town (2) a fucking awful iso (3) decided to make an absolutely awful push on me today the moment he thought there might be support/decided to start misrepping the way I’ve played throughout the day and to diminish/cast shade on my contributions and (4) who seems positively desperate to survive when compared to, let’s say bingle

[PenguinPower]

Wish I could respond to Mena then.

[PenguinPower]

OP isn’t updated.

[Something_Smart]

They should be off the table for today because the only person who should be on the table today is PP who has (1) no mechanical reason to be town (2) a fucking awful iso (3) decided to make an absolutely awful push on me today the moment he thought there might be support/decided to start misrepping the way I’ve played throughout the day and to diminish/cast shade on my contributions and (4) who seems positively desperate to survive when compared to, let’s say bingle

I suppose that's fair.

[PenguinPower]

You guys can lynch me if it’s best for gamestate. I’m pretty done.

[Menalque]

Spoiler:

Just listen to the wind and it will tell you who to vote. Listen carefully.

lilith

lilith

lilith

lilith

biiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnggggggggglllllllllleeeeeee

lilith

lilith

Wow such push, much clearing

[PenguinPower]

K Mena. Piss off.

[MariaR]

I'll legit get a full face of clown makeup if PP is scum this game

[Menalque]

They should be off the table for today because the only person who should be on the table today is PP who has (1) no mechanical reason to be town (2) a fucking awful iso (3) decided to make an absolutely awful push on me today the moment he thought there might be support/decided to start misrepping the way I’ve played throughout the day and to diminish/cast shade on my contributions and (4) who seems positively desperate to survive when compared to, let’s say bingle

I suppose that's fair.

Right now can you make the vote I need you to make so we can lynch him and end this game?

This game was super chill until now and tbh I just wanna get it over with

[Menalque]

I'll legit get a full face of clown makeup if PP is scum this game

Cool, and I’ll get one if he’s town, so how about we split the difference you vote him and we both wear half the makeup?

[Bingle]

Maria isn't group scum because she was the alternative lynch to both lillith and S_S, and -similar to Bingle- I don't think lillith claims vengeful if Maria was on her team (not to mention Maria wanted lillith lynched and it didn't look like a bus to me)

Kinda this for Maria.

PP just repeatedly italicizing Lilith isn't a play for towncred, which makes it an unlikely bus. The push was too empty to be bussing.

[Menalque]

Okay, who’s scum then bingle?

[Menalque]

Because there’s not an awful lot of names left and I’m not doing datisi > PP when he’s made a push this bad and she at least has some mechanical reasons to not be scum

[Menalque]

Maria isn't group scum because she was the alternative lynch to both lillith and S_S, and -similar to Bingle- I don't think lillith claims vengeful if Maria was on her team (not to mention Maria wanted lillith lynched and it didn't look like a bus to me)

Kinda this for Maria.

PP just repeatedly italicizing Lilith isn't a play for towncred, which makes it an unlikely bus. The push was too empty to be bussing.

Okay, have a look through the rest of the ISO, and stop when you get to any scumhunting whatsoever

Keep going...

Keep going...

Keep going...

Little bit more...

And oh, that’s the entire ISO

[Something_Smart]

Right now can you make the vote I need you to make so we can lynch him and end this game?

Not tonight. I feel like it won't hurt to let everyone take a step back from the thread.

Tomorrow, if there's still significant support, then maybe. This probably won't hold the wagon back since it's doubtful enough people would vote tonight anyway.

Also, I want to review the things PP did yesterday that I thought were towny, and I won't have a chance to do that tonight.

[MariaR]

I'll legit get a full face of clown makeup if PP is scum this game

Cool, and I’ll get one if he’s town, so how about we split the difference you vote him and we both wear half the makeup?

....Half a face is more challenging but I could probably do it if I was given 2 hours.

But no PP is town

Oh this is wifom and if you need any other reason to clear me: Lilith looked to me for advice when we were scum together and she probably would've done it here too if we were partners. If you think I let her claim vengeful

I'ma make some shortcake and be back soon

[Menalque]

He soft bussed lilith for the towncred because he did literally nothing else all game and wanted to cruise off the cred to the endgame for having softbussed not hardbussed

Who else do you think there is a compelling argument for their being scum, in light of claims and the information recently outed as a result of mine?