In post 3768, Myloninja13 wrote:And Gamma is... kinda not really seeming town here. I haven't played with them much, but from what I have seen I don't reeeeally think this is town from them?
why not?
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:01 am
by Tchill13
In post 2960, Scioness Sajj wrote:i have done an iso let me present to you why i think Adriod18 is scum:
1. gut/tone
2. the thing with Jarjar
In post 791, Andriod18 wrote:osuka's flip would interest me but I don't think it'd flip scum mostly because he's been a topic of the game for the whole thing.
reads to me as:
i know osuka is town but i don't have reads so my excuse for voting will be information
statment like that, when coming from town, i would expect to be followed with so game solving. in a way that he has already thought about what possible information can be gained. don't really see why town would lynch a townread for info if they don't even know if they will find anything.
That's a relief. The only reason I had you in my null-town reads earlier was that I thought you might be a PR who didn't know how to handle your role. That did wear out already, but thanks for the reassurance. Lynching a VT is the next best thing to lynching scum with 16 hours to go.
I would agree if lynching that VT was a good information read but from what I'm getting I'm mostly a policy lynch (an understandable policy lynch but still one none the less)
if you want to lynch me lynch me BUT remember i'm not really that good lynch.
in a span of 10 minutes. it's pretty obvious that he didn't really mean 1790 and got scared by A50 post. don't see it coming from town.
i had just started my catch up (pg 119). This looked like genuine sorting. I got a good vibe from it. I liked what I seen.
thats the only reason i mentioned TR'ing you.
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:06 am
by texcat
In post 3833, Hopkirk wrote:I can't tell if mylo is still here. If only there was someone who could tell us.
This actually made me laugh out loud.
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:11 am
by Scioness Sajj
In post 3876, Tchill13 wrote:i had just started my catch up (pg 119). This looked like genuine sorting. I got a good vibe from it. I liked what I seen.
thats the only reason i mentioned TR'ing you.
That's fair. Are you caught up fully now?
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:15 am
by Tchill13
Yes 119-current. I haven't read before 119 but picked up on things such a a VT claim and a vig fake claim apparently.
Seeking a replacement for Pine for general inactivity (both as of day 2 and day 3). They can keep their slot if they post content before I find a replacement.
Why did it feel pointless? Hopkirk and flavor both said she's scum. They're both confirmed town. Flavor was dead on with his weme read. Weme openly committed wifom to make sure scum were able to kill flavor (which means he was a huge threat).
I'm 99 percent sure flavor called out two scum members at least. If that's true I'd be willing to bet on lalendra the most out of his call outs.
IDK how much bad creature play we can excuse because "He posts when he's town".
I have no idea how Texcat could make that post asking about extension (not to say it looked like giving an extension would suggest answer) and then asks about Mylo.
In post 3255, Scioness Sajj wrote:VOTE: penguinpower
Don't scumread tbg, nor do I want another claim.
Will switched if needed.
This looks more like scum who jumps off when Wheme fakeclaims than Dunn. Goes onto Wheme despite no stated scumread (from a loneish wagon) on Wheme, jumps off Wheme after the claim onto the Penguin counterwagon. Also the reluctancy in the initial Wheme vote (we'll probably go back to penguin)- despite not being on Penguin- sounds like someone planning to hop off/not comitted.
I'm buying this.
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:54 pm
by Tchill13
@jarjar I just don't like the fact that he ignored my question. He obviously thinks lalendra is a good lynch yet he says lalendras wagon is boring? What the heck?
I have no idea how Texcat could make that post asking about extension (not to say it looked like giving an extension would suggest answer) and then asks about Mylo.
In post 3255, Scioness Sajj wrote:VOTE: penguinpower
Don't scumread tbg, nor do I want another claim.
Will switched if needed.
This looks more like scum who jumps off when Wheme fakeclaims than Dunn. Goes onto Wheme despite no stated scumread (from a loneish wagon) on Wheme, jumps off Wheme after the claim onto the Penguin counterwagon. Also the reluctancy in the initial Wheme vote (we'll probably go back to penguin)- despite not being on Penguin- sounds like someone planning to hop off/not comitted.
I'm buying this.
especially how in 3255 he doesnt even acknowledge wheme at all. His only other post after the claim was this:
As if PP vs TBG were the only options there were. His vote is on wheme so u'd think he'd acknowledge him somehow. Like not even an opinion on the clam?
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:59 pm
by Kublai Khan
In post 3615, Creature wrote:My scum game can be boiled down to "no hard stances, just hop into whatever comes", which is completely contradictory to this game.
Oh. And people who know their scum meta never try to subvert it to win games as scum, right?
In post 3645, Kublai Khan wrote:WhemeStar thought Myloninja13 was in the neighborhood at one point.
Ok...?
If Myloninja13 is a scummate, I don't think that WhemeStar is going to accidentally put him in the neighborhood. Considering the neighborhood was a major lynch possibility during Day 1.
Unless, of course, both Myloninja13 and wavemode are scummates with WhemeStar. In which case, it makes sense to confuse the two.
In post 3654, Hopkirk wrote:As far as I’m aware, Wheme is aware of the Creature meta thing, so he can’t not townread Creature without drawing suspicion (and Wheme's play wasn't exactly with the intent of being the centre of attention). I feel that mitigates the interactions Tchill mentions from Wheme's side of it.
Do you realize how crazy that sounds. "Creature tried really really had to stop WhemeStar from being the lynch, but the fact that WhemeStar kept calling Creature town mitigates it."
Creature posted so little Day 2 (before the EOD) that he was on the replacement list. Creature was mid-flake. Why wouldn't scum-WhemeStar turn on town-Creature at that point? Specifically in that mid-Day 2 posting period, WhemeStar could have easily turned on Creature and called him scummy. But instead he doesn't waver and makes sure to say Creature was town.
In post 3689, Gamma Emerald wrote:Oh my god Tchill might be scum
I had this exact same fucking fight with him in a past mini, the fact he's learned nothing tells me that something is very wrong
How similar?
In post 3846, Gamma Emerald wrote:Actually the way it played out I see it as a good scum play. You die, tada you have confirmed a vig exists. You live, you know that there is not a vig. I will state if Vaxkiller is scum I'd expect a BIG scumteam, like 6-7, as being willing to make that sacrifice sorta implies that.
What? That makes no sense. Scum aren't going to trade the life of one member just to learn something that they'd learn anyways. Generally town vigs have itchy trigger fingers.
Right now the lynch pool is {Creature, TehBrawlGuy, Scioness Sajj, Lalendra}
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:49 am
by JarJarDrinks
In post 3893, Kublai Khan wrote:Right now the lynch pool is {Creature, TehBrawlGuy, Scioness Sajj, Lalendra}
IN: Dunn
OUT: TBG
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:18 am
by Lalendra
In post 3862, Hopkirk wrote:-his reads were accurate (although we agreed on most of them)
-you were one of his top (2, maybe 3) scumreads.
I feel like there's a problem with this that you aren't seeing.
Scum probably need to consider a bodyguard in their killpick too.
I am seeing the problem - that you think I'm scum because I was one of his scumreads before he died.
The problem YOU aren't seeing is that I'm town. I think his read on TBG was accurate, hence my vote there.
In post 3829, Tchill13 wrote:I'm 99 percent sure flavor called out two scum members at least. If that's true I'd be willing to bet on lalendra the most out of his call outs.
I was starting to think you could actually read me tchill
thats the point. not only does flavor and hopkirk SR you but I do as well.
*shrug*
It is what it is. You're all wrong together.
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:28 am
by JarJarDrinks
Here's where I'm at:
Very Town:
Hopkirk, Ausuka, Tchill13, Kublai Khan
Town:
TehBrawlGuy, Gamma Emerald, Vaxkiller, Golden Robster, Texcat, PenguinPower, Frozen Angel
In post 3822, Lalendra wrote:Are there only two scum? Because it seems to me I have one more to find.
that was my point. you said were too busy looking for scum to defend yourself/. Wondering when the scumhunting was gonna start?
Do you have an actual question or are you just going to nitpick me to death?
Sure, thoughts on the leading wagons?
Lalendra(7) ~ Hopkirk(23), Ausuka(4), PenguinPower(23), Tchill13(43), Wavemode(3), JarJarDrinks(54), Ankamius(3)
- Wrong. I'm town. I'm starting to think Tchill might be the scum on my wagon, not sure about the rest. I really think JJD is town at this point, I'd like to think Wave is but I'm not good enough at setup spec to figure out the odds of that. Pretty certain PP is town as he was the counterwagon to Wheme. No idea about Ankamius or Ausuka, though Ausuka could be scum as well as she just seems ...off from the other games I've played with her.
Texcat(3) ~ Creature(63), Scioness Sajj(15), TehBrawlGuy(27)
- Pretty sure Tex is town based on the fact that TBG is my main scumread, and Sajj is another scumread.
Myloninja13(2) ~ Dunnstral(6), Texcat(9)
- I haven't been able to sort Mylo all game but if he's scum active lurking, I'm almost impressed.
Dunnstral(2) ~ Golden Robster(37), Myloninja13(6)
- I have waffled back and forth on Dunn but I'm not sure enough about scum!dunn to vote or engage there until TBG is lynched.
TehBrawlGuy(1) ~ Lalendra(9)
- SERIOUSLY HOW IS NO ONE ELSE VOTING HERE
Creature(1) ~ Kublai Khan(19)
- I really think Creature is town this game and so is KK.