Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[skitter30]

i'm writing something up, i'll start by saying that i don't think that you're scum and i didn't think that for more than like an hour when i was getting stressed out

(sorry had to talk to my aunt for a few min, back again)

i mean on thursday you were pushing me for essentially not wanting to screw over teh gamestate
even though you know that i try to mitigate that sort of thing and prioritize keeping the game pleasant and easy to play over like deathtunneling people

also pointing out, again, that your rce scumread nearly exactly coincided with him pushing you

[RadiantCowbells]

yes

that isn't a scumtell though and i don't see what motivation you think i would have for doing that as scum if i was just going to go back on it anyway and then have to try to explain why

[teacher]

Skit I’m traveling and vLa but reading up. Happy to discuss anything. My vote was ari because I am pretty confident on my reads of math and RCE, and I’m slight town on RC though my team (ofrhz) wants that lynch.

I’d like to see things out o shos/saudade now that those slots have replaced, or xtomx since they’ve taken the game basically off. I’m disappointed that in 160 pages I don’t really have more/strong scum elands, it can’t really do anything about that. At least I feel my towns well and can work with them, even if I think there is probably a wolf in that pack too.

I feel like I’m currently the designated lylo lynch and don’t like that much, since it results in a loss, but also don’t really know how to change much since I don’t think much has changed.

[RadiantCowbells]

i do think that teacher's, like, less equity than just Plum but I figure you're more interested in sorting him than saying yeah he's definitely scum

[Saudade]

the quality of memes in this game even by page 160 is top notch

[Saudade]

i'm a bit puzzled
im not going to read the history of this game

[Saudade]

You all shall be granted a clean slate from me and I start scumhunting from this post and below!!

[Saudade]

VOTE: vorkuta
starting with my rvc vote

[RadiantCowbells]

i'm also scared that you're like, underestimating the odds of Ari being scum but I think everyone else recognizes those odds enough for it to not really matter enough for me to want to do something about it

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: vorkuta
starting with my rvc vote

Well played XD

[skitter30]

ok

wrt to 3972
a lot of what you said there resonated with me - esp the bit about turning like ~on~ when you're scumread and not being able to like drop it or get over it and that it messes with how you approach with the thread - i kinda do that too, when i feel like i'm being scumread for ridiculous reasons i just like become significantly more aggressive and like push-y in an attempt to get people to drop it (but not toxic), and i sometimes get scumread for this (ank in particular would until she realized thta's just kinda how i work) and it would be really really really frustrating because i was trying to get people to understand taht they were wrong but it just kinda snowballed and i ended up worse than i was to begin with

and i think taht your'e sometimes just like not fully capable of controlling this sort of thing of town
like if you're town you literally just did the same thing with rce here
and yeah there's a bit of a pattern here (me in the newbie, me in the teacher doc/cop game, xreck in taz mafia)

so i actually kinda like that post, a lot
and your reads do match with mine quite a bit

but i guess one thing that i'm kinda stuck on is that like in vaccuum if you're town at the start of teh game you're self-resolving given like, you're you
but if you're town here i'm not sure that you are
and that's a little scary for me but i'm not sure that pushing you for a lynch is the best way to resolve you rn
but if i'm being honest with myself there is a *very* large chance i get eaten up with paranoia if you're around in lylo if we're both there, no matter how i read you the day before, no matter what my thoughts were the day before
like i just kinda know myself that this is where my mind is going to go even if i don't want it to

so i don't entirely know what to do

[Saudade]

imagine thinking im going to read 150 pages of content when i cant read skitters wall of text

[Saudade]

okay i tried reading it and i cant understand it

does anyone want to defend vorkuta

[skitter30]

the plum transition was basically thinking she wasn't TvS with you. I went back on that as soon as i felt like you were town again
basically i won't say i'm confident on RCE but i'm confident on you and i am willing to trust your ability to read him because i realize that i just am too frustrated to be objective

other than that our reads really aren't that different (and outside of D1 equiv TW ig), except the order that we'd lynch our scumreads ig and the fact that i'm not, like, sure Ari is town?
like he's either town or scum but i think that we solve that by lynching around him more easily than lynching him because

if he's scum it's pretty frigging clear that remaining scum is in 3, maybe 4 people whereas if he's town that says nothing about Tris or Plum's weird treatment of him and the people pushing him could be scum

i still want plum (pending shos catching up tho)
i do not think rce is scum

and i don't really think that ari is scum either

and i guess i'm just kinda tired pushing people for gamestate/information reasons when we could just be like ... pushing the scummy people themselves

[teacher]

No vorks def scum. But just have to find their partners.

[skitter30]

well at least math and saudade aren't scum together, that's nice to know

[Saudade]

No vorks def scum. But just have to find their partners.

damn im good at this game then

[Saudade]

well at least math and saudade aren't scum together, that's nice to know

wat

[Saudade]

oh vorkuta isnt here.. its mathblade.. mildly disappointed

[teacher]

Saudade, is there really no game relevant commentary in you team thread?

[RadiantCowbells]

like i dunno. i believe i already posted this but if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree you'll think its evolutionarily useless. if you judge me by my ability to not snap on people who are calling me confscum or saying that i'm scum and they refuse to reevaluate a la RCE you're either going to scumread me or think i'm bad. sucking at dealing with scumreads and having a massive scum ceiling is a pretty debilitating ceiling but my town winrate gets by because by and large people just recognize it's +equity to let me do my thing on D1 and deal with me later and this game was like, the antithesis of that and my play suffered.

but i guess one thing that i'm kinda stuck on is that like in vaccuum if you're town at the start of teh game you're self-resolving given like, you're you
but if you're town here i'm not sure that you are
and that's a little scary for me but i'm not sure that pushing you for a lynch is the best way to resolve you rn
but if i'm being honest with myself there is a *very* large chance i get eaten up with paranoia if you're around in lylo if we're both there, no matter how i read you the day before, no matter what my thoughts were the day before
like i just kinda know myself that this is where my mind is going to go even if i don't want it to

at the risk of being called pockety, if you work with me we just won't make it to lylo. there's a reason i've never made it to lylo as town from D1 besides Baton Pass (which, several mitigating factors)
not saying that to like brag or dick measuring contest, we just really can do this

if nsg ever shows up again and it's still in question maybe she can help show that we're town, idk.

[Aristophanes]

oh vorkuta isnt here.. its mathblade.. mildly disappointed

This journey took me on a rollercoaster and I appreciated it greatly

[Saudade]

Saudade, is there really no game relevant commentary in you team thread?

can i have link to my team thread

[Saudade]

are you on my team teacher

[MathBlade]

Oh yay 5 pages in a day after 4 hours of driving! /sarcasm

Did anything important happen in those days?