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I guess I'll dive into this one seeing how it's still elements vs hectic... Not tonight but soon. Been unexpectedly busy. Apologies.

VOTE: Elements

Well this game died...

You could wait for the replacement and not risk someone hammering 10 days before the deadline again

Everyone who's voting me, when I flip town who are do you think is scum?

I don't think there's as big of a risk for that. The only ones not voting for you are roster!replacement, Tchill who's been busy, and Spam who isn't going to quickhammer.

I'm just trying to make something happen in this game.

k, I took a step back from the game and reread everything from a neutral pov. My reads have totally shifted, and I like Hectc for town now. I actually think Elements is scum. I don't want to hammer early, so I'll just UNVOTE: , but

Pedit: perfect timing lol

Can you all answer my questions now?

In post 405, Elements wrote:Everyone who's voting me, when I flip town who are do you think is scum?

Probably Hectic, maybe with Tchill or roster? It's tough to find a good team that doesn't have you tbh

In post 409, NotMySpamAccount wrote:

In post 405, Elements wrote:Everyone who's voting me, when I flip town who are do you think is scum?

Probably Hectic, maybe with Tchill or roster? It's tough to find a good team that doesn't have you tbh

Are there "good" teams that do have me?
Now you're against me there is literally zero opposition to my wagon. None at all. Does that not strike you as odd. As it stands I think the point of the night kill was to mislynch me, if I was scum that means the night kill was for the express purpose of bussing me.

I'm currently thinking the scum team is Hectic and Aaron or spam. Where hectic pushes for my lynch today with an early vote and then the other waits to asses the situation before joining in. I'm erring on the side of NMSA from post 409.

It seems to be, the reasons I'm being scum read are:
1 - Azure scum read me
2 - I was an L-1 vote

Counter points to me being scum:
1 - Azure's death was what made people look at her reads - I have the lease incentive to kill her
2 - Every wagon on day 1 reached L-1, the hammer was town
3 - No one is on my side, I have been the only considered lynch by most people for most of the day

Oi Hectic, I can see you're online. Come post.

In post 405, Elements wrote:Everyone who's voting me, when I flip town who are do you think is scum?

If you flip town, then Hectic is a likely candidate. Not sure who the partner would be.

If you flip scum though then I think Tchill or Spam is the partner. Spam's recent post could be an attempt to bus you if you flip scum so right now I think I'd lean towards Spam if that was the case.

In post 412, Elements wrote:It seems to be, the reasons I'm being scum read are:
1 - Azure scum read me
2 - I was an L-1 vote

Counter points to me being scum:
1 - Azure's death was what made people look at her reads - I have the lease incentive to kill her
2 - Every wagon on day 1 reached L-1, the hammer was town
3 - No one is on my side, I have been the only considered lynch by most people for most of the day

Why are you ignoring all of the other points I've brought up about you?
Fine, you have excuses for them, but I'm still scumreading you for them.
Disincluding them from your first list is a diSiNGenuOuS disservice to all the players in this game, you fucking dishwasher.

In post 412, Elements wrote:It seems to be, the reasons I'm being scum read are:
1 - Azure scum read me
2 - I was an L-1 vote

Counter points to me being scum:
1 - Azure's death was what made people look at her reads - I have the lease incentive to kill her
2 - Every wagon on day 1 reached L-1, the hammer was town
3 - No one is on my side, I have been the only considered lynch by most people for most of the day

The lack of a serious counterwagon is the one thing making me reconsider right now.
But one could argue I was that counterwagon until Spam saw some fucking sense earlier.
@Spam: Let's hear some actual reasons for why you switched from me to Elements.

Also, I've disregarded those townie points I gave Elements earlier for his misinterpretation of my question to Spam.
If he was town, he'd be far more outraged at me lying about playing with him there.
If he's scum, he might have just misinterpreted and been slightly confused by it, hence his reasonable reply to it.

In post 415, Hectic wrote:Why are you ignoring all of the other points I've brought up about you?

Which were?

In post 386, Hectic wrote:

In post 309, NotMySpamAccount wrote:

Elements wrote:

In post 294, NotMySpamAccount wrote:VOTE: Hectic

Give some explanation before I join you?

Gladly:

In post 279, Hectic wrote:If Reaper flips town here:
Scum!Azure is hammering him before his replacement can come in to townspew and save this miserable train wreck of a slot.
That or she's playing as REAL fucking bad town.
Like town that doesn't deserve to be called town, or even a village.
More like a slum.

and

Elements wrote:I'm thinking hectic might be scum from the night kill. It's obviously just for confution, and that's a very hectic thing to do. (No pun intended)

The nk is a crazy move, but that post makes it look even worse.

Talking about your second point.
Why is this "a very hectic thing to do" for you? Have I played with you before, what makes you think I in particular would make that kind of fucking ridiculous play?

Hey Spam, answer this.

In post 416, Hectic wrote:But one could argue I was that counterwagon until Spam saw some fucking sense earlier.

Counter wagon of 2? With no interest from anyone else? I don't think so you tumble dryer.

In post 417, Elements wrote:

In post 415, Hectic wrote:Why are you ignoring all of the other points I've brought up about you?

Which were?

Entering day 2 trying to paint the narrative that the night kill was for confusion.
Flimsy logic on skitter+Aaron theory.
Your delayed vote onto me after waiting for Spam to respond.
Constructed first post in D2, taking forced stances.

In post 420, Hectic wrote: 1 - Entering day 2 trying to paint the narrative that the night kill was for confusion.
2 - Flimsy logic on skitter+Aaron theory.
3 - Your delayed vote onto me after waiting for Spam to respond.
4 - Constructed first post in D2, taking forced stances.

1 - Since them I've gotten into your mind and know why you really did it. You trying to paint it as "to protect me from Azure's reads" is even more flimsy.
2 - I disregarded it effective immediately
3 - I wanted to see NMSA's answer first.
4 - Hypocrite

In post 421, Elements wrote:

In post 420, Hectic wrote: 1 - Entering day 2 trying to paint the narrative that the night kill was for confusion.
2 - Flimsy logic on skitter+Aaron theory.
3 - Your delayed vote onto me after waiting for Spam to respond.
4 - Constructed first post in D2, taking forced stances.

1 - Since them I've gotten into your mind and know why you really did it. You trying to paint it as "to protect me from Azure's reads" is even more flimsy.
2 - I disregarded it effective immediately
3 - I wanted to see NMSA's answer first.
4 - Hypocrite

5 - Scum!me could've lynched Azure today and then you tomorrow given that logic. Anyway, you changing your mind now doesn't change the fact that was the narrative you were trying to paint when you entered D2.
6 - Not the point. It sounded like a fabricated and forced read that scum would make.
7 - That's what you say. Looks like cautious scum to me.
8 - Actually, I think you'll find my post was extremely genuine and natural, with thoughts emanating directly from the fucking fibres of my very soul.

In post 422, Hectic wrote:Actually, I think you'll find my post was extremely genuine and natural, with thoughts emanating directly from the fucking fibres of my very soul.

Your entire angry rant shtick is designed to make you hard to read. I know for a fact you prefer playing scum and you are enjoying this way too much to not be scum tunnelling me. At this point you're going all in to get me lynched then either getting your buddy to bus you tomorrow and hope they can hide, or hope you can worm your way out of a lynch tomorrow.
If anybody doesn't support a lynch on Hectic tomorrow I will hold them solely responsible for us losing the game.

Elements wrote:

In post 409, NotMySpamAccount wrote:

In post 405, Elements wrote:Everyone who's voting me, when I flip town who are do you think is scum?

Probably Hectic, maybe with Tchill or roster? It's tough to find a good team that doesn't have you tbh

Are there "good" teams that do have me?
Now you're against me there is literally zero opposition to my wagon. None at all. Does that not strike you as odd. As it stands I think the point of the night kill was to mislynch me, if I was scum that means the night kill was for the express purpose of bussing me.

Yes, I can see you as scum with roster or Tchill much more easily than I could see them w/ Hectic.

Hectic wrote:

In post 386, Hectic wrote:

In post 309, NotMySpamAccount wrote:

Elements wrote:

In post 294, NotMySpamAccount wrote:VOTE: Hectic

Give some explanation before I join you?

Gladly:

In post 279, Hectic wrote:If Reaper flips town here:
Scum!Azure is hammering him before his replacement can come in to townspew and save this miserable train wreck of a slot.
That or she's playing as REAL fucking bad town.
Like town that doesn't deserve to be called town, or even a village.
More like a slum.

and

Elements wrote:I'm thinking hectic might be scum from the night kill. It's obviously just for confution, and that's a very hectic thing to do. (No pun intended)

The nk is a crazy move, but that post makes it look even worse.

Talking about your second point.
Why is this "a very hectic thing to do" for you? Have I played with you before, what makes you think I in particular would make that kind of fucking ridiculous play?

Hey Spam, answer this.

From your play this game, I'd guess you're a fairly unpredictable player.

Elements wrote:

In post 416, Hectic wrote:But one could argue I was that counterwagon until Spam saw some fucking sense earlier.

Counter wagon of 2? With no interest from anyone else? I don't think so you tumble dryer.

This is a micro, you were at L-2.