Mini 2228: Isekai uPick - Endgame

Cabd · Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:48 am

The fuck does that mean?

She flavor hinted Shiro after I reached out about it, it was pretty cut and dry.

Cabd · Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:49 am

In post 3419, Kate Bishop wrote:The thing that kept itching about Cabd's day 1 play was that he didn't really seem to care who the elim was among the LHF.

Just like TENET.

More bullshit from you; A50 and Gypyx disagree.

Cabd · Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:49 am

You're REALLY enjoying getting to drive this home, aren't you? Forget "i had hoped it's not the case" you're all salivation, all the time.

Cabd · Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:56 am

In post 3425, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'll admit I probably didn't help but I'm not the droid Cabd is looking for.
I was hoping he'd answer my question before I had to make this clear because depending on how open-ended his info is it might just be a scumclaim

...

You're not Shiro.

WTAF.

Who the fuck are you then?

Who the fuck IS Sora or Shiro this game then?

Did I spend all of day one defending scum-marci while her team giggled?

Arceus fuck this one is going in the hall of shame.

Cabd · Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:57 am

Why didn't the real Sora or Shiro say anything to my asks?

Cabd · Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:58 am

Is this game all an elaborate troll to mindfuck me into a vegetative state?

Cabd · Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:00 am

In post 54, Cabd wrote:
White
, like the
sky
.

In post 666, Cabd wrote:
In post 664, marcistar wrote:
In post 662, WhemeStar wrote:LLD CAN I PLEASE VOTE MARCISTAR
the sky has opened up and told me this is a sign..
why r u so excited to vote me?

Cute flat lass? Fluffy?

In post 707, marcistar wrote:
In post 666, Cabd wrote:
In post 664, marcistar wrote:
In post 662, WhemeStar wrote:LLD CAN I PLEASE VOTE MARCISTAR
the sky has opened up and told me this is a sign..
why r u so excited to vote me?
Cute flat lass? Fluffy?

yeah..?

In post 676, Toogeloo wrote:@marci, I don't care what I look like to other people. I never have. So I think you confused my quote. To clarify it, due to my limited spurts of play time, I skim through the thread if there have many many posts, and then I try to make sure I reply to people who ask me something.
ohh ahh i originally thought u were looking out so u could try to please whoever scumread u, but ill keep this in mind.

Cabd · Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:04 am

In post 3430, Cabd wrote:Is this game all an elaborate troll to mindfuck me into a vegetative state?

Yes.

Jibril, Informed Guardian Angel

Know that {Sora, Shiro} in the game are confirmed town.

If {Sora, Shiro} die, I can assist them (but it doesn't say how or anything) in affecting the thread from beyond.

Cabd · Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:31 am

In post 3466, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:That is wtf worthy

Welcome to my life, apparently.

Cabd · Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:34 am

I mean I still don't think it's you but might as well; it's a whole damn thing of a conga line.

Cabd · Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:48 am

My objection to an ANONYMOUS chip mechanic does not compare to my thoughts on a PUBLIC vote, you giddy cheeky fucks.

It's clearly style on me day in fferyland or something.

Cabd · Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:59 am

In post 3497, Kate Bishop wrote:If you're town and you voted manatee AFTER the Titus flip, I'm going to be extremely pissed.

You won't be pissed, but it won't be for the reason you claim is the reason.

Cabd · Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:04 pm

You won't be pissed because you're faking this, jerks.

Cabd · Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:08 pm

In post 3520, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 3501, Cabd wrote:You won't be pissed because you're faking this, jerks.
jerks? this isn't anything like the kinds of stuff I figured you'd post on the day town-you scumread me.

I don't have it in my heart to piss in your koolaid you are so proud of. You clearly have the cards in your favor from where I stand and I'm gonna start unwindisming at this rate.

Like I said, I am sadly reminded of the last game I ever played separate with penguin.

Cabd · Mon Sep 13, 2021 2:22 pm

Whemestar was my master all along?

Good taste, but also Arceus fuck I nearly eliminated you.

That would have been BAD.

My townreads are worm-infested, though. No ifs ands or buts.

Full reset, one last college try.

Cabd · Mon Sep 13, 2021 2:29 pm

In post 3435, Cabd wrote:
In post 3430, Cabd wrote:Is this game all an elaborate troll to mindfuck me into a vegetative state?
Yes.

Jibril, Informed Guardian Angel

Know that {Sora, Shiro} in the game are confirmed town.

If {Sora, Shiro} die, I can assist them (but it doesn't say how or anything) in affecting the thread from beyond.

This is all I've got. I am ASSUMING that the second thread has some sort of minigame that I assist wheme with when he enters it (if he enters it), which would match his flavor of wanting to go to said other world.

Cabd · Mon Sep 13, 2021 2:35 pm

In post 3604, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 3599, Cabd wrote:
In post 3435, Cabd wrote:
In post 3430, Cabd wrote:Is this game all an elaborate troll to mindfuck me into a vegetative state?
Yes.

Jibril, Informed Guardian Angel

Know that {Sora, Shiro} in the game are confirmed town.

If {Sora, Shiro} die, I can assist them (but it doesn't say how or anything) in affecting the thread from beyond.
This is all I've got. I am ASSUMING that the second thread has some sort of minigame that I assist wheme with when he enters it (if he enters it), which would match his flavor of wanting to go to said other world.
I still feel like your play has been incredibly flat for someone who thought he caught scum-fferynotsci. :/

If I controlled my emotions, they wouldn't be emotions now would they?

I don't know. I'm hard resetting and trying not to take 3601 as a scumclaim...

Somebody is majorly pulling strings and if it's not you, there's not many players it COULD be here.

Cabd · Mon Sep 13, 2021 2:38 pm

In post 3609, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 3608, Cabd wrote:I don't know. I'm hard resetting and trying not to take 3601 as a scumclaim...
But do you think scum gets Lukewarm's role?

JJH fck u ur modding sucks /s

I don't know. I feel like the roles that HAVE flipped are so wacky that trying to outguess this mod is pointless.

"There has to be a town desharder"

Cabd · Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:23 am

Very sick. Not gonna be here. Please no votes in xylim.

Cabd · Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:49 am

I can manage that. I thought you were hinting masonizer of some sort due to that one mafiassk game that we were both in.

I'm apparently good at encryption but terrible at decryption.

Cabd · Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:01 am

In post 3702, Kate Bishop wrote:Other head.

Can you please point out the exact crumb that lead to that, if it’s in the realm of what you’re able to do?

The one about Ffery trying it a different way and steak sauces.

Cabd · Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:03 am

In post 1144, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 1111, Cabd wrote:Apparently I'm very good at dishing and very terrible at taking then. Because I know what signals were directed at me but trying to parse them feels like I'm being asked to download a signal converter for the low cost of all of my brain cells
New signal:

page 1 caffeination and...fire up the wayback machine because we're looking back to a time when...

morph separated: half nailed a dry flan to the wall, and half doomed a bottle of steak sauce.

not 100% of it all, but close because it's complicated. If you can dance, we're wallflowers.

This one I think.

Cabd · Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:06 am

In post 3708, Cabd wrote:
In post 1144, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 1111, Cabd wrote:Apparently I'm very good at dishing and very terrible at taking then. Because I know what signals were directed at me but trying to parse them feels like I'm being asked to download a signal converter for the low cost of all of my brain cells
New signal:

page 1 caffeination and...fire up the wayback machine because we're looking back to a time when...

morph separated: half nailed a dry flan to the wall, and half doomed a bottle of steak sauce.

not 100% of it all, but close because it's complicated. If you can dance, we're wallflowers.
This one I think.

sangres, Gaignun "Rubedo" Kukai, Jr., Chaos Aligned URTV #666 (Town Mason Neighbor), was killed Night 6.

Cabd · Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:47 am

I'd like to reiterate that I don't let you with a masonizer live. It's like when I had that jailkeep in 2181...

Cabd · Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:58 am

Why not?

This game is 500000000% lol setup.

Any more than I'd doubt so many killing roles?

If anything a plain tracker is the standout weird one here.

Cabd · Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:18 am

It isn't really. I'm stuck mobile and tired.

Cabd · Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:35 am

I got a small nap. I'm going to re-read day one because I hate myself.

Cabd · Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:45 am

Unrelated phonepost.... How is SNOW these days? Am in the world of Connectwise but used it in the past.

Cabd · Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:31 pm

I'm awake.

And cranky and still tired, but awake.

Re-reading the first third of day one was a great sleep aid but not much else.

Gamma claim stalling here sucks, out with it.

If gamma/marcislot ~is~ scum, it's with somebody fluent in crumbs. I'm still not sure that the reply to me is all that awkward as Luke makes it out to be though, as opposed to just flavor-dressing... but we won't know until we get a flavor and role claim from Gamma.

Cabd · Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:41 pm

I missed it, please requote.

Cabd · Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:44 pm

Where is the question here?

424 was a shitty fire emblem joke.

https://fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/Forrest

Cabd · Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:45 pm

I thought you were talking about the ryze ultimate as in realm warping to create a masonry; but only AFTER the other later crumb clicked and I went back.

Cabd · Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:45 pm

In post 3869, Kate Bishop wrote:Are we supposed to believe that isn’t you acknowledging my crumb? For a neighborizer?

Yes?

I didn't get that at all.

Cabd · Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:47 pm

Like, it would have been to my credit if I did, but I really REALLY didn't.

Cabd · Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:48 pm

In post 3873, Lukewarm wrote:insomnia

Please don't breathe this word into the universe given this playerlist :/

Cabd · Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:04 pm

In post 3876, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 3870, Cabd wrote:I thought you were talking about the ryze ultimate as in realm warping to create a masonry; but only AFTER the other later crumb clicked and I went back.
if this is true then you weren't joking about failing at decryption. :/

Extremely.

If I'd gotten your crumb correctly I feel like I'd have acted differently but here we are.

In a world where a shitty fire emblem joke convinced you that I'd understood your static when my head was full of femboy jokes.

Cabd · Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:21 pm

I dunno. I'd have definitely noted back that I got it but to you that joke WAS that so uhhh don't know actually.

We wouldn't be having this conversation while ssbm votes outside her 1v1 though!

Cabd · Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:32 pm

I'm barely able to use a quarter of my brain. Explain like I'm five and sick.

Cabd · Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:56 pm

Yeah I really don't see the parallels. I'm going the fuck back to sleep now.

Illness isn't fun. Opt out in the future.

Cabd · Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:09 am

I am aware of the source; to teenage-me's great shame.

It's basically softcore trash, please don't watch it ever....

TW: Sexual Acts and fucked up views of pretty much everything

Spoiler:

I sincerely hope marci just googled "cute isekai catgirl" or something....

Cabd · Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:11 am

(And no, I'm not done re-reading, before you even ask, but I'm trying to also keep current and for the love of arceus can we PLEASE not have votes down right now)

Cabd · Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:13 am

Morphood, no notsci heads allowed:

I'm trying to reconcile a lot of things, one of which is the scary thought that this isn't just scum-you taking a victory lap, but town-you about to mistakenly kill me here and it's a lot worse. I vastly prefer being in the former, you know? I've yielded thread control today to you to hopefully get more data here, but you seem extremely fixated on this. Did you expect me to come rip-roaring out of the gate or something?

Cabd · Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:13 am

Fuck, that'sa quote tag. SHIELD YOUR EYES notsci.

Cabd · Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:22 am

In post 3938, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 3932, Cabd wrote:Morphood, no notsci heads allowed:

I'm trying to reconcile a lot of things, one of which is the scary thought that this isn't just scum-you taking a victory lap, but town-you about to mistakenly kill me here and it's a lot worse. I vastly prefer being in the former, you know? I've yielded thread control today to you to hopefully get more data here, but you seem extremely fixated on this. Did you expect me to come rip-roaring out of the gate or something?

Spoiler:
I didn't expect you to be as passive as you've been. We came into Day 2 pretty sure you're scum, but with an open mind. There is stuff that points to you being town. It's a question of if it's in your scum range, too, and you know the answer to that, at least from my perspective.

The way town has been mowed down, there isn't much room for scum to hide here. and yet.

Spoiler:

Cabd · Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:25 am

In post 3925, Kate Bishop wrote:I’m going to wait for a flavor buff to weigh in on that, btw

I did weigh in on this but YMMV

Cabd · Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:31 am

In post 3945, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 3939, Cabd wrote:
In post 3938, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 3932, Cabd wrote:Morphood, no notsci heads allowed:

I'm trying to reconcile a lot of things, one of which is the scary thought that this isn't just scum-you taking a victory lap, but town-you about to mistakenly kill me here and it's a lot worse. I vastly prefer being in the former, you know? I've yielded thread control today to you to hopefully get more data here, but you seem extremely fixated on this. Did you expect me to come rip-roaring out of the gate or something?

Spoiler:
I didn't expect you to be as passive as you've been. We came into Day 2 pretty sure you're scum, but with an open mind. There is stuff that points to you being town. It's a question of if it's in your scum range, too, and you know the answer to that, at least from my perspective.

The way town has been mowed down, there isn't much room for scum to hide here. and yet.

Spoiler:
I mean I want to say "But like, If I see you're a masonzier there's no way I can't kill you night one" but you apparently don't think that's what I thought?

Spoiler:
That hinges on you actually getting masonizer out of our crumbs. Which is possible, but doesn't feel like the most obvious interpretation, even though my crumbs to you were Xenosaga crumbs.

I figured you were able to decipher the crumbing we did to GiF since it was from the For Us micro, and that crumb screamed "you have to come to us", which I also tried to tell you -- the bit about being wallflowers.

And yeah, us not being dead if you thought we were some form of masonizer does point to you being town. Like I said, there's stuff that points that way.

Spoiler:

Cabd · Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:41 am

In post 3949, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 3948, Cabd wrote:
In post 3945, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 3939, Cabd wrote:
In post 3938, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 3932, Cabd wrote:Morphood, no notsci heads allowed:

I'm trying to reconcile a lot of things, one of which is the scary thought that this isn't just scum-you taking a victory lap, but town-you about to mistakenly kill me here and it's a lot worse. I vastly prefer being in the former, you know? I've yielded thread control today to you to hopefully get more data here, but you seem extremely fixated on this. Did you expect me to come rip-roaring out of the gate or something?

Spoiler:
I didn't expect you to be as passive as you've been. We came into Day 2 pretty sure you're scum, but with an open mind. There is stuff that points to you being town. It's a question of if it's in your scum range, too, and you know the answer to that, at least from my perspective.

The way town has been mowed down, there isn't much room for scum to hide here. and yet.

Spoiler:
I mean I want to say "But like, If I see you're a masonzier there's no way I can't kill you night one" but you apparently don't think that's what I thought?

Spoiler:
That hinges on you actually getting masonizer out of our crumbs. Which is possible, but doesn't feel like the most obvious interpretation, even though my crumbs to you were Xenosaga crumbs.

I figured you were able to decipher the crumbing we did to GiF since it was from the For Us micro, and that crumb screamed "you have to come to us", which I also tried to tell you -- the bit about being wallflowers.

And yeah, us not being dead if you thought we were some form of masonizer does point to you being town. Like I said, there's stuff that points that way.

Spoiler:
Not sure exactly how I can sell you that such is the case other than to point at that game's flips. I was never even thinking you meant for me to look at ~MY~ role.

7. Flandre Scarlet, Luis Virgil, Order Aligned Blue Testament (Mafia Goon), was lynched Day 1.

18. Varsoon, Canaan, Chaos Aligned Realian Black Box (Vanilla Townie), was killed Night 1.
8. Kagami, KOS-MOS, Chaos Aligned Consciousness of Mary Magdalene (Vanilla Townie), was lynched Day 2.
5. Cabd, MOMO Mizrahi, Chaos Aligned 100 Series Realian (Town 1-Shot Permanent Watcher), was killed Night 2.
15. pieguyn, chaos, Chaos Aligned Avatar of Yeshua (Town 1-Shot Bulletproof Bodyguard), was killed Night 2.

11. MafiaSSK, Kevin Winnecot, Order Aligned Red Testament (Mafia Tracker), was lynched Day 3.

6. Cephrir, T-elos, Order Aligned Reanimated Body of Mary Magdalene (Mafia Ascetic), was killed Night 3.
2. Aegor, Citrine, Yuriev Aligned URTV #668 (1-Shot Global Roleblocker Ninja Neighbor Serial Killer), was lynched Day 4.
3. Angry Frat BROs, Margulis, Chaos Aligned Ormus Inquisitor (Town Neighbor 2-Shot Inventor), was killed Night 4.
13. Metal Sonic, Jin Uzuki, Chaos Aligned Ex-Federation Captain (Town Neighbor), was lynched Day 5.
14. orcinus_theoriginal, Allen Ridgeley, Chaos Aligned Unassuming Engineer (Town Conditional Hated/Jailkeeper), was killed Night 5.
19. Venmar, Pellegri, Chaos Aligned Ormus Zealot (Town Neighbor), was lynched Day 6.

16. sangres, Gaignun "Rubedo" Kukai, Jr., Chaos Aligned URTV #666 (Town Mason Neighbor), was killed Night 6.

10. pirate mollie, Erich "Voyager" Weber, Order Aligned Black Testament (Mafia Neighbor), was lynched Day 7.

Spoiler:
I named your character. :/ Partly for "watcher" and partly as an ask that you visit us if you could.

The thing that SSK did in every game he and I played after Paradox Prime was to visit me/claim to visit me if he had a night action. NY169, GiF's Ace Attorney mini, Xenosaga, and probably some I don't even recall. That was what I as asking -- for you to target us if you were able to, though given what appeared to be role entanglements with Marci, I had a feeling you didn't have an active night action you could target me with.

So many layers to those crumbs. :/

Does Gamma's role make sense in this setup as a sort of empowered snarky fishes?

Spoiler:

Gamma's role doesn't really feel like a snarky fishes, it's PURELY negative utility as claimed?

Cabd · Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:45 am

In post 3952, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm ugessing snarky fishes is someone with a similar role, but which game are yall talking about

Bloodstained, Snark Fishes is a ffery-Bell hydra that was a supersaint that upgraded to a vengeful.

Cabd · Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:46 am

In post 3918, Gamma Emerald wrote:I am Rem Galleu from How Not to Summon a Demon Lord, and I am a Doombringer. What that means is if ever I die to being voted out, the mafia get a bonus kill that they can use immediately, and they can use it on ANYONE, regardless of what might otherwise prevent their death. THIS IS WHY GIF IS PRACTICALLY CONFTOWN TO ME, because my role basically has to be implemented as counterplay to his. I also think LLD is town because of how our roles seem to mesh, with LLD being a tool they can use while alive and me being a tool they can use via my death. I had thought Kate to be probably town for the same logic I was applying to GiF but that ended up being a red herring, and I don’t believe I made things clear enough about my GiF stance that it could be inferred I had the “ability” I have, so it’s not town-indicative that they denied being bulletproof (which if I thought they could have parsed my role bit I was alluding to, in that case they could have let me be mistaken and falsely trusted them).

Where the hell are you getting "vengeful" from this?

This is straight up a modified Pooky the Magical Bear.

Cabd · Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:47 am

I swear this entire setup is one big elaborate middle finger to the idea of setups going on for more than a day or two.

So much negative utility and killing roles.

I need to cross-reference this with Marci's early posts, hand on.

Cabd · Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:48 am

In post 3957, Kate Bishop wrote:I was curious if it made sense in a scum-gamma world for that flavor to be vengeful.

Ninja-
Hi it’s me the person with the question

Uh, no idea. Birthing the demon lord LITERALLY ends the world so it's not like the mod could have done a "If you die to elim your team wins" in scum-gamma world?

Cabd · Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:51 am

It's quite the uncomfortable squick flavor TBQH.

The mod very clearly went Yomi 1 lazy anime only flavor based upon how the LLD role and mine were generated, sooooooo it does match up in that regards.

Cabd · Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:56 am

Look, when I went to check my crunchyroll premium I was offered two versions. The censored version and the uncensored version. That's kind of a sign....

Cabd · Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:58 am

In post 3966, Kate Bishop wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 3950, Cabd wrote:one of which is the scary thought that this isn't just scum-you taking a victory lap
btw this bothers the fuck out of me.

One: I NEVER 1v1 you as scum, not for another decade at my rate of development. I hated that this day was going down the 1v1 path, and was resigned to losing that battle though not without the best fight I can muster. That's town-me hating it. Scum me just avoids the hell out it and kills you (because prior to the claim hilarity, I thought you had some sort of dedicated bodyguard thing going on with marci).

Two: how you can think my day 1 play, including backing you up on marci even though my read was starting to crack around the edges based on her lack of presence and your passivity, comes from scum-me is just bewildering. I'd have to do something different as scum after 2181, but ~this ain't it~.

Spoiler:

Cabd · Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:51 am

In post 3982, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:LLD - Brainwashed (Spider of some kind)
Wheme - Rolecop (one of sora/shiro)
Luke - Deadline Guide (Chocobo)
Dunn - Inherits weaker forms of dead town's non-killing roles (a slime character)
KB - Reflexive Neighborizer (sonic x cream cheese)
Cabd - Informed that Sora/Shiro are town,
and can help them if they go to other world?

Gamma - gives scum an immediate kill if he is eliminated

Imo the only way cabd claim can be real is if gif is shiro/sora. if that's the case, he's in the other world now, so... Cabd? anything you can add about how you can help them when they're in the other world?

Did I use the wrong operator?

My role does not state BOTH sora and shiro are here, just that any of Sora or Shiro in the game are confirmed town to me.

Wheme is Shiro. Sora is clearly not in the game. My flavor character is Jibril, by the by.

Cabd · Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:39 pm

Tonight, not really. Tomorrow, absolutely.

I'm slowly reading along but it's brain mush still.

You know the feeling.

Cabd · Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:46 pm

I mean if you want hash not reads, sure.

But i feel like you want them both.

I'm an open book AMA.

Cabd · Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:55 pm

Has it ever stopped me before?

Cabd · Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:57 pm

While we wait I want to hear your scum cabd theory for how my role was played mostly because I want to be able to run it in faces post game if we are both town and you elim me anyways.

Cabd · Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:28 am

I'm currently out of the house but will be here this evening to chat.

Cabd · Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:30 pm

I'm here, fferysci.

And doing homework.

Time to play a game of "hot or not" or more realistically "stuff I liked and stuff that ewwww"

Cabd · Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:55 pm

Dunn

Love it: All of day one was extremely town-dunn to me. Especially some of the earliest drop in insight posts. I found the mindmeld about the unwnd-dayvig softs extremely comforting, as well. He felt incredibly comfortable and jovial, in a way I have not seen out of scum dunn before? It's hard to INK TO THE PAGE better about this one but yeah, that. Of special note was the on the fly unprompted toog-opener metadive.

Hate it: The evolving role claim in reply to SSBM's tracker. (Possibly lolsetup?) The sheer ignoring the elephant in the room feeling of his most recent few posts, like he doesn't want to address that players are extremely hungry to wagon him to death today.

ssbm-

Love it: I was one of the biggest proponents of SSBM-town day one, I'm pretty sure? Her check-ins felt like they came from natural enough places, and I felt the lazy scumreads there WERE the "town low hanging fruit" attempts being made. Looking in, I even told Kate off from the read with this line: "I think the pop ins have felt natural and not manufactured to any specific outcome." Fferysci's homework about post count is somewhat intriguing but I don't think it's a lock in my book by any means.

Hate it: I was fine with the "guilty evolution" of the tracker but I have a few issues with some of the other day two posts... Help me square the circle here. No flavor selfclaim (unless I missed one????) while constantly posting trying to track down everyone's flavor and role info. Voting outside the supposed tracker guilty. It does feel like drawing back from the 1v1 and trying to frame a Dunn elim as "something everyone backed up" and it pings me somewhat.

Wheme-

Love it: My role PM says he's town
Hate it: If he's somehow ultimate cosmic brained his way past my role being a troll into confo-town status (he hasn't, this is a joke)

Cabd · Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:59 pm

(I'm intentionally doing these in 3-player chunks between eating dinner, as not to force myself to color any one player based on having too much of the other colors)

(Pork tenderloin with garlic cheese dip for the food tellers)

Cabd · Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:00 pm

In that case.....

Do you not feel ANY parallels to a 1-shot cop claim? I think that's what has my hair on end.

Cabd · Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:03 pm

Yes, but bridges, and crossing them when there.

Cabd · Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:07 pm

I dunno, i kind of want my payment at the halfway point.

Cabd · Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:16 pm

I'm not entirely convinced it's even a scum read.

It's a "I have concerns read"

Why are you smug re wheme?

Cabd · Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:20 pm

*erases "Kate thinks I'm scum with wheme" from the blackout Bingo board*

Cabd · Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:55 pm

It's coming. I'm re-reading each ISO as I go, so yeah.

Cabd · Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:17 pm

:/ I'm deep down a gif-meta rabbit hole. Send help.

Cabd · Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:23 pm

"I gave up looking at pretty much every post in this game to re-read old gif games"

The nature of it is currently into the third page of his egosearch with noting of major value as far as discrepancies go but an inability to tear myself away. I'm mid 2018-ish.

But the first line of my gif read starts "I don't really think anything has changed in the past five years"

I owe it to myself to see if there's any data that points otherwise, because i struggle to name three scum in this list of 8.

The one I'm on now he hydra'd with the mod: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=75168

Cabd · Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:25 pm

My eyes are also glazing over. Finishing tomorrow after apple picking.

I'll take half of my kate-written fanfic tho.

Cabd · Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:01 pm

Both in bed with major migraines.

Sorry.

Tomorrow.

Cabd · Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:47 pm

My problem is that after a re-read and another re-read on top of that, I just can't see either Kate or Gif as scum, no matter how much it would make my other town reads make sense numbers wise.

I've half a mind to throw away everything and sheep Kate... but their scumread of me in and of itself is a fundamental flaw in their logic that WILL lose us the game given we have to get everything exactly right.

I don't really have it in me to bother with the fancy color things any more, sorry.

Cabd · Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:48 pm

I also apologize in advance for my melancholy mood.

Cabd · Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:02 pm

I understand and if this is what causes the game to be our loss I accept responsibility.

Between here and bloodstained I have determined that I am in no mental fortitude to be playing mafia and will probably step back for a few months at minimum while I work on aspects of my own mental health.

Cabd · Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:21 pm

What changed is that I'm not in the moment any more, and rationally looking back, I don't think that's the kind of 1v1 you'd have initiated. Not like that, anyways.

Is it stupid if I say it's too surface level of you to init a 1v1 with notsci being the badcop?

Cabd · Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:32 pm

There is no "right end" to view stuff from, only choices one makes.

I'm not really sure where this convo is going, though.

I lack conviction, or a paddle.

Cabd · Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:46 pm

Where do you want it to go?

Because I'm a dead fish as a conversational partner so you'll need to lead.

Cabd · Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:57 pm

You forgot (5)- the whemestar stuff i was promised, but okay. Not really sure how I feel about that but I'll tackle each as best I can, I suppose.

Cabd · Sat Sep 18, 2021 3:15 pm

In post 4255, Kate Bishop wrote:I dunno. I feel like the very fact that I went to such extremes to tell you about our neighborhood mechanic and to INVITE you to target us if you could should have come off incredibly town to you.

Once again this is not at all what I drew from the Convo.

I thought you were targeting ME.

Cabd · Mon Sep 20, 2021 1:42 pm

Hi, I have a few spoons to spare.

Assume you may get ONE iota of effort out of me before syryana and I go deep metadive Genshin Impact, where do you want it?

I'm coming around to the idea that your solve is 2/3rds correct and I'm the nacho-xeno-hydra of this game.

Just... without the extra five elims to spare.

P.S. Wheme's result will be "Informed Guardian Angel" not "Informed Townie" but yes. I'm fine with this course of action.

Cabd · Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:10 pm

Nice crosspost.

No idea who the third one is. That's YOUR problem now.

But imma get out of your way and stop dragging out and being dumb.

VOTE: Dunn

Cabd · Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:14 pm

SPITE!

Or mostly, a sense of zen accomplished by realizing that It's my turn to wear the clown makeup and hinder the go go gadget solver.

Cabd · Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:18 pm

Oh, did you want to learn of our lord and savior Ganyu Permafreeze? /s

Cabd · Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:23 pm

In post 4337, Kate Bishop wrote:I overestimated the volume of an iota.

Spitetrolling is so fun, I see why Unwnd loves it so much!

(The third one is probably a UTR deepwolf salivating)

Cabd · Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:29 pm

In post 4341, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 4339, Cabd wrote:
In post 4337, Kate Bishop wrote:I overestimated the volume of an iota.
Spitetrolling is so fun, I see why Unwnd loves it so much!

(The third one is probably a UTR deepwolf salivating)
Noted. :/

I'd feel bad... but I don't feel bad!

This is freeing.

I AM FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Also yeah for realz i'm probably gonna step away from mafia for a long while as Olivia just turned two a while ago and her time is more important, and she's starting to pick up on mafia stuff which is no bueno until she can contextualize it.

Cabd · Tue Sep 21, 2021 10:31 am

Two things.

One, crow is delicious.

Secondly, did anyone else pick up that Dunn did NOT claim their flavor accurately?

In post 3638, Dunnstral wrote:Rimiru Tempest

In post 4370, jjh927 wrote:Hello Dunnstral! You are Hakurou

Cabd · Tue Sep 21, 2021 10:40 am

In post 4404, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 4400, Cabd wrote:Two things.

One, crow is delicious.

Secondly, did anyone else pick up that Dunn did NOT claim their flavor accurately?

In post 3638, Dunnstral wrote:Rimiru Tempest

In post 4370, jjh927 wrote:Hello Dunnstral! You are Hakurou
Crow?

I was wrong about my dunn read initially but I'm happily eating crow because mafia got eliminated?

Cabd · Tue Sep 21, 2021 10:49 am

In post 4407, Kate Bishop wrote:Wow if only there was another player who’s flavor didn’t fully add up with comments they made yet seemingly have a perfect role for the flavor!

We're literally playing a game of "What yomi level does the scumteam operate on?" now.

Do you think they're on level 2, then?

Cabd · Tue Sep 21, 2021 10:56 am

In post 4414, Kate Bishop wrote:Do you have any guesses on the third member, Cabd?

I have no idea why, but you addressing me by name instead of quoting me or making it implicit grates from a ffery hydra's profile picture.

It has to be Luke or Gif. I refuse to think it's you or LLD. SSBM has no need to make a cosmic brain partner guilty in MELO. And if I were feeling like a snarkier snark, I'd probably quote your thing about not writing off me being informed to apply to gif being able to hide for a day phase.

Cabd · Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:12 am

I'm aware. Hence why I said from a Ffery hydra not from Ffery.

Cabd · Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:09 pm

Ian Flemming called, something about three times.

Cabd · Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:27 pm

In post 4438, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 4435, Cabd wrote:Ian Flemming called, something about three times.
Cabd what does this mean

Once is happenstance.
Twice is coincidence.
Three times is enemy action.

Cabd · Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:27 pm

How many DIFFERENT ways has Gamma "slipped" awkwardly?

Cabd · Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:42 pm

That is my implication, yes.

Cabd · Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:43 pm

Apologies in advance, this is being typed up mobile, so I won't be able to quote, will rely on memory and having your post in mind. Daughter getting off to sleep.

LLD's approach to today was your first question. It fits with the way her chosen contestant approaches games. I mean this not as an insult, but she's taking an approach like how you described Bell en hydra. Consider possible pairings, and try to suss them out. Killing Wheme here is an absolute loss and I strongly disagree with that notion.

As for Luke, or GIF, whichever of them it is has played an extremely strong game, and if they beat me I can't even be that mad compared to their growth. Luke's play this game, if I had to name a "fault" that stood out to me, was the stuff around the dumb fake guilty or whatever it was day one. Also, that he seems to be leaning into his once a game crazy theory thing he does, in a somewhat performative manner. GIF, on the other hand, is absolutely capable of sliding past us for a single day, so if he wanted to go long, a role where he can self exit for a day must have been like the mama of life bestowed by the gods. I've seen stranger things.

I am not assuming this is a sole Gamma plan or role. My personal possible theory is scum inventor. Does not an extra elimination with public scum guess redirect sound weak as a scum role to you? Given the tons of kills running around, if this is Gamma, there is more to it than just this.

But said plainly.... Do you not see it? The trying to be subtle towards a Gamma wagon with planned slips set up, and then when it's called out Gamma immediately shifts gears towards acting even MORE blatantly to try and fake out? Dunn's post trying to call the bluff?

Cabd · Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:32 pm

It does not guarantee him scum, no. But it would explain why the charm was turned up to 11 on day one.

Day one was like watching gif dust off the town gif mantle and then make a boring sequel that took zero risks. And maybe that just makes him a town Hollywood producer.

My working galaxy brain theory is third role is inventor-gamma sends stuff and that current situation is from such a sending. I think their ACTUAL flavor is not Rem but instead Diablo, as holds with Marci's tastes towards ripped/muscled men. Diablo, with access to his personal dungeon full of all sorts of situational items. Dude who collected one of every fucking item in his MMO just to have it around in case.

Given THAT theory if true, it would have to be luke, and they were too afraid of towngif's return early to go without. Going about it this way means they shield one of their own AND if we try to elim Gamma, they get to nuke two towns in one phase, effectively, between the redirect of the elim and their factional kill.

Realistically, the only folks with night actions unaccounted for in that pool are LLD, Luke, and yourself. And I've stated my reaffirmed town reads on the two of you.

Cabd · Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:34 pm

In post 3575, WhemeStar wrote:You are the deadline guide.

I am aware of this result, Luke.

I fail to see how this wording makes you town, as opposed to actually something to do with deadlines or elims?

I also fail to see how this prevents gamma from slipping you something that causes this on night one. We know Dunn did the kill, so.... Either-or.

Cabd · Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:35 pm

Also, we know it's possible for multiple players to share a source material... so it explains why Gamma went last, to make so there were no other people from How not to summon.

Cabd · Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:21 pm

Why not?

Cabd · Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:25 pm

Because he might end up getting CC'd with his faked flavor on the off chance that his claim really WAS in the game?

Cabd · Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:43 pm

One work day and three after hours Comcast outages later I am sleeping. We can chat tomorrow.

Cabd · Thu Sep 23, 2021 2:33 pm

Sorry, I've been thinking about it.

I think no elim bluff call is indeed the right way to go.

Then scum can kill at most one of the two investigatives.

If anyone has extra protections they've held back in claiming they go onto wheme who is basically a factional cop AND rolecop.

Pedit: who is the Annie here in your metaphor?

Cabd · Thu Sep 23, 2021 2:40 pm

In post 4551, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 4549, Cabd wrote:Sorry, I've been thinking about it.

I think no elim bluff call is indeed the right way to go.

Then scum can kill at most one of the two investigatives.

If anyone has extra protections they've held back in claiming they go onto wheme who is basically a factional cop AND rolecop.

Pedit: who is the Annie here in your metaphor?
Also, please, please, please engage with my list of reasons that we're scumreading you. :/

Dead serious question. Why? You literally don't believe me that troubadour was a sheer coincidence so why the hell bother? At this point I just hope that you're scary enough of a UTR that scum doesn't bring you to endgame to mislim me for the win.

It's beyond frustrating but that's how it feels.

Cabd · Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:09 pm

In post 4561, Kate Bishop wrote:Cabd I would like to talk about your flavor too because I went and did my isekai homework and I'm hoping you can connect a few dots for me

(also season 2 when)

Sure although you may have, I doubt the mod did.

Cabd · Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:12 pm

In post 4560, Lukewarm wrote:Hey cabd, does knowing that my full role is confirmed by wheme (not just the name) change anything for you?

I can't be the inventor in your theory do you still think I fit in your solve of Dunn+gamma+[luke or gif]?

I....

I don't know.

Maybe?

Your role does seem pretty anti-town on the basis of "when this scum dies town gets punished" from that perspective, but that would make Gamma the inventor.

But like, if I'm wrong bout you, it's either gif or my town reads that have strong convictions behind them are wrong, or rather, one of them is.

That said, my CRAZY crackpot theory is that you're scum and protected yourself from this elim for 500 IQ and are pushing nolim to get LLD to double down on voting you.

Cabd · Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:14 am

Alive. My lastpass master password expired and I forgot it, and my account was uh...... let's just say it's sufficiently long and random that I'd never have guessed it.

Thankfully I had biometric enabled on my old phone to recover it.

I still hold that going anything other than nolim for actions here is a misplay, but this isn't my masterstroke game, so whatevs

Cabd · Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:06 am

...That just activated the redirect didn't it?

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:17 pm

VOTE: cabd

Cool I'm Regan Bush get me the fuck out today then kill luke tomorrow probably and it's over. Not my proudest win but I'll take it. Get me out of the way.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:21 pm

Why would night teo challenge extend into day three when according to you the night one challenge ended night one and scum got an extra vote?

Just pile on and hurry up to day four.

Do I need to act like dgb and do one if it's famous confessionals?

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:23 pm

You're not my real dad.

We literally don't need whatever the challenge is. Just murder all of me gif and Luke and the game is over. 100%. I am quite literally offering to go first.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:25 pm

If I'm scum bluffing you win. If I'm town fed up with the fucking game and being terribly off my game then you win the consolation prize of it just being down to Luke or gif.

It's still not lld. It's still not Kate.

And it's not the tracker that guiltied Dunn out of nowhere.

So.... Just kill the three of us unknowns and stop trying to rearrange deck chairs on the titanic.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:27 pm

Btw I asked the mod after seeing the flip of informed be redacted and was told mine would have the same done so to clarify once you see it my info is that sora and shiro are confirmed town and that if they're in the dead thread and playing in a game I'm able to talk to them about it.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:30 pm

In post 4642, GuyInFreezer wrote:We don't have three chances unless I'm tripping?

Well clearly it's just me so you only need one right? Let notsci does his cobra Kai shit I wanna let him get 2/3 then feel despair and annoyance as he then has to finish off the last putt at a bogey instead of an eagle.

Yes folks this game broke cabd. I'm gonna openly grouse until you fucks get around to freeing me.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:31 pm

Come on folks act now and you can even give him hammer.

As a bonus maybe you yes that's YOU can deny him the hammer by the rest of you voting me while he drives so he can sit and be extra sad when he arrives.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:38 pm

Gif, do you know who all could have been chosen?

Other than knuckles, that is?

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:40 pm

In post 4649, GuyInFreezer wrote:
Spoiler: to Cabd only
During night 2 everyone including dead PT (including me) made a bet towards who will be limmed and how they will have placed their votes when the hammer hits.

This is my bet.

GIF gets limmed.
Kate Bishop votes for GIF.
Cabd votes for GIF.
GIF votes for GIF.
Lukewarm votes for GIF.
LLD votes no elim.
ssbm_Kyouko votes no elim.

I have confirmed with the mod that I will still win even if I get limmed so today ends with my lim unless we are 100% sure that we can end the game today~

I mean sure on one hand you going first is fine but on the other hand fuck you for getting to go first, it's probably just Luke so unless your reward is for sure a double-elim or something no, fuck that, leaving me alive is a TERRIBLE idea. Why the actual fuck didn't you guess me?

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:41 pm

In post 4647, GuyInFreezer wrote:During the night scum picked a character out of a board or characters and so did S_S to play the guessing game.

As in like, "guess which character they are"?

I mean, is it possible it had nothing to do with taste and knuckles was somehow the most bland pick or something? Do you know who S_S picked?

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:42 pm

In post 4654, GuyInFreezer wrote:Because I never stopped townreading you, silly.

@Cabd.

Well the problem is, who does that leave in your book?

Because you just walked into a bar full of people who HARD disagree.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:43 pm

In post 4656, GuyInFreezer wrote:S_S picked Oda Nobuna.

Wait he would have let FGO count as in isekai?!?

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:43 pm

FOR FUCKS SAKE I WOULD HAVE IMMEDIATELY CHOSEN MEDEA AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:44 pm

Right but like, let's say we do your plan, that still leaves a luke vs me finals and luke wins, therefore scum wins.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:45 pm

Because either luke is the last scum or we're getting galaxy brained by one of LLD or Kate, and I don't think that it's a twopeat of bloodstained for notsci here.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:46 pm

In post 4663, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 4662, Cabd wrote:Right but like, let's say we do your plan, that still leaves a luke vs me finals and luke wins, therefore scum wins.
I'm about to confirm you as town though.

The Oda Nobuna in that list was not the one from Fate series. It's from this.

https://odanobunanoyabou.fandom.com/wiki/Oda_Nobuna

The fact that you immediately assumed the wrong Oda means you probably never saw this board thus you are now confirmed town to me.

I don't know this isekai/novel but uh, that doesn't really confirm me or anything?

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:47 pm

Like I don't understand how "some prize on the same power level as an extra anon pre-day vote" is worth losing an elim here, ever?

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:48 pm

No..... you'll have to make the rest of this western saloon/bar believe that it somehow makes me confirmed as town.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:49 pm

Yes this is the correct approach thank you LLD.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:51 pm

I need to NOT be in any final cross-vote scenario because that is a losing proposition.

Setting aside gif's "prize" potential for a second, we're at 6 alive:

ssbm_Kyouko
Cabd
Lady Lambdadelta
Kate Bishop (hydra of notscience and fferyllt)
Lukewarm
GuyInFreezer

If we lim gif, scum then shoots the tracker, giving us a final four of {lld, luke, kate, cabd} and that ends with a cabd-luke cross which is EXTREMELY bad because then both of us cannot be off the board, and luke wins.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:52 pm

As far as I know we have no other ways of stopping a kill to get us back on odds and gain an extra elim.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:09 pm

In post 4688, GuyInFreezer wrote:I didn't just get to watch the dead PT. I interacted with the dead folks too.
Btw I asked DGB what ability she used during N1 and she said "Show your strength."

It pronouns. Not she.

But noted

Here's my concern. A game of guess who has a guaranteed winner. Players take turns until somebody wins.

But the night two challenge you've described could potentially have no winners.

WHO chose your name? Just you? If so there are two scum why wouldn't they just choose me and a backup option of you if it's Luke. After all. The limpool is effectively us three.

Why wouldn't scum hedge bets?

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:10 pm

Additionally according to you the night one challenge was done and effect granted going into day two. But the night two challenge is still being played by those who were dead going into night two???

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:12 pm

Also.... if the account that faced off against S_S is a factional ability, scum might have gotten to make THREE bets.

Which means it's possible that scum guessed all three of the limpool names and is assured to co-win anyways.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:14 pm

I don't know. It was a misplay to double-bluff NOT protecting gamma. Scum probably chose no-lim hoping to single bluff.

Which oh hey, that points to you and me, the exact two people I want to die.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:15 pm

P.S. I hope this is making fferysci feel badly!

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:16 pm

In post 4702, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:At this point my role puts me squarely outside worlds where I can be scum, given I claimed it day 1 minute 1.

You're out of my limpool for other reasons, but it's not much removed from a scum-miller post one fakeclaim.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:23 pm

I think gamma claimed that scum would get a vengekill that ignored commuters etc if eliminated.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:25 pm

Regardless the only options I accept here is me into Luke? Gif into Luke is impossible unless somehow we are sure the gif postdeath prize is so worth it as to be able to confirm me or give us two elims of the four living players.

Gif what were the reads of other dead town?

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:28 pm

I refuse Luke into me because I don't want to be blamed for the loss if my Luke read is wrong. I'd rather it be collective failure then just another page in the book of Cabd's highs and lows.

And then I'd get in trouble for playing against win condition if I self voted in final four just to end my misery.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:28 pm

In post 4712, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 4711, Cabd wrote:Regardless the only options I accept here is me into Luke? Gif into Luke is impossible unless somehow we are sure the gif postdeath prize is so worth it as to be able to confirm me or give us two elims of the four living players.

Gif what were the reads of other dead town?
You should stop assuming our minds can't be swayed.

I tried not assuming that yesterday. It gave me thread fatigue.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:34 pm

In post 4705, Lukewarm wrote:You know, kyouko's tracker result would be nice to help us sort through the remaining possibilities.

Its pointless because it's either "XYZ went nowhere" or "lld visited wheme", no?

I mean it would confirm that lld is not town gambiting with the latter result and therefore has to be true claiming or scum but I don't think I'm entertaining that universe at all.

Unless scum was stupid enough to not use lld here and we have a second guilty and all our bickering is pointless.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:35 pm

In post 4717, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 4716, Cabd wrote:
In post 4712, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 4711, Cabd wrote:Regardless the only options I accept here is me into Luke? Gif into Luke is impossible unless somehow we are sure the gif postdeath prize is so worth it as to be able to confirm me or give us two elims of the four living players.

Gif what were the reads of other dead town?
You should stop assuming our minds can't be swayed.
I tried not assuming that yesterday. It gave me thread fatigue.
Has your when-wheme-is-dead ability been activated?

Once he is playing a game. Presumably the night three game.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:35 pm

In post 4719, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 4711, Cabd wrote:Gif what were the reads of other dead town?
Uhm.
Do you really want to know?

Im assuming everyone just agreed it's me no?

I can't exactly blame them. So does most of the living.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:37 pm

In post 4718, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Cabd lemme see this okay?

For you to be scum you had to claim a mason partner that actually exists that didnt need to be claimed at all. And even if you assumes as scum that person would be marci, why waste that on marci? Why blow that and then find out oops its wheme? Your role as scum includes, if it exists

"You know Shiro is in the game. Claiming that to have wheme shot over me or Kate makes no sense for you as scum.

I mean sure but at the same time, no? I'm sure that Kate has objections with that statement. But also why would that ever be a scum role on the first place? As opposed to something like a night zero flavor cop or something along those lines.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:38 pm

In post 4725, GuyInFreezer wrote:I WASN'T HERE NIGHT 2 AND KILL HAPPENED

LLD making the kill.is.presumably a factional ability as it stems from her own flavor.

So sadly it does not although I'm not really thinking it's anyone not named lukewarm here so.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:38 pm

Lld does it say factional or unknown?

I was assuming factional.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:46 pm

Worst case scenario assumption would be it's factional so let's stick with that assumption.

I'm pretty sure no elim was chosen to try and wifom an extra "kill" right? That town would be afraid to elim gamma as the obvious choice. And then scum gets the elim and a night kill to nuke two down at once. And then the bluff got called and we nuked gamma anyways.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:47 pm

I mean regardless of who it WAS on not choosing gamma was a terrible plan so it was used suboptimal. I totally want a role like that in the future though. That would have a perfect double bluff opportunity.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:49 pm

In post 4729, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 4723, Cabd wrote:Im assuming everyone just agreed it's me no?
Actually Titus didn't. She was very sure that Kate is scum.

If Titus somehow Galaxy brain outsolved all of us I will need to Varsoon her a pizza. And then cry myself to sleep for losing the arms race after all because a misread of me doesn't count as a point in my box if Ffery is scum and that's to her advantage.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:52 pm

Yes yes collective we you thump that chest and howl while I sit over here having not voted you got me.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:53 pm

In post 4745, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:If Kate is scum and I had them day 1 I...

Like honestly I wanna do Luke Kate over Cabd Luke but losing to Cabd is MISERY in this spot

Don't worry BEING Cabd is misery in this spot too!

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:56 pm

In post 4712, Kate Bishop wrote:You should stop assuming our minds can't be swayed.

Feeling more and more like a safe bet!

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:01 pm

I mean it's gonna be you vs Luke in final four given GAMESTATE so yeah.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:03 pm

In post 4757, GuyInFreezer wrote:I wish people took my confirming Cabd as town more seriously.
I was actually very very serious about that.

We can start a Cassandra Truth club it'll be fun. No girls named Kate allowed. LLD and SSBM are welcome.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:05 pm

You're not seriously entertaining eliminating gif here for some shitty prize that we don't even know what it does here are you?

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:07 pm

Like, I have two options in front of me. Be absolved of my sins, or bet the entire game on MY luke read being right.

And uh, I'd rather watch the shitshow if I'm wrong from the dead thread, given my track record so far.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:10 pm

In post 4764, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 4762, Cabd wrote:You're not seriously entertaining eliminating gif here for some shitty prize that we don't even know what it does here are you?
No. but I am considering not letting scum win either, if you're town.

notsci may not agree, though.

Okay so let's say I actually believe you for a minute here that you're (collectively) capable of un-clenching. If it's not you, which I don't think it is, it's just Luke, right?

But if it's NOT Luke, no way in HELL am I signing up to not just lose to you (or with you to LLD in bizzaro world), but lose to/with you in XYLIM.

FUCK

THAT

NOISE

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:11 pm

In post 4767, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 4765, Cabd wrote:Like, I have two options in front of me. Be absolved of my sins, or bet the entire game on MY luke read being right.

And uh, I'd rather watch the shitshow if I'm wrong from the dead thread, given my track record so far.
And if you're town then scum win whatever the prize is.

Assuming NOBODY from dead town also picked me to hedge bets, sure. But I certainly hope somebody in dead town was smart enough to do that.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:16 pm

(So do I, but Baja Blast and Voltage are better. The best one is still whiteout but it's so hard to find in the Midwest)

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:24 pm

In post 4785, GuyInFreezer wrote:Given that knuckles was one of the choices, no.

But there is a knuckles in Sonic X, which WAS allowed as per fferysci's role...

https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Knuckles_ ... _(Sonic_X)

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:29 pm

In post 4788, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 4785, GuyInFreezer wrote:Given that knuckles was one of the choices, no.
Ok. was wondering if FGO was an option to be in this game, why Cabd didn't pick Medea!

I think we clarified that it wasn't and I misread which oda it was?

Because yeah if FGO was an isekai I'd have 50000000% picked a servant.

Technically speaking one could rules lawyer that rayshifting is travel to another world, but that would only allow the servants from Babylonia, which got animated.

Spoiler:

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:30 pm

In post 4789, GuyInFreezer wrote:Gabiru, Megumin, Kanna, Wanibe, Otto, Cerceus, Mizarisa, Chiho, Aira, Melty, Geordo, Pisto Shaz XI, Krusty, Millhiore, Knukcles, Aku, Oda Nobuna, Keita, Tiffania, Kumausa, Nokopara, Tomoe, Dimiurge, Poncho

I believe all of these are from Isekai anime?

Slime
Konasuba
Bookworm
Goblin Slayer
Sonic X
Overlord
Realist Hero

just the ones I recognize on a skim.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:32 pm

In post 4789, GuyInFreezer wrote:I don't know half of these characters so y'all decide.

Gabiru, Megumin, Kanna, Wanibe, Otto, Cerceus, Mizarisa, Chiho, Aira, Melty, Geordo, Pisto Shaz XI, Krusty, Millhiore, Knukcles, Aku, Oda Nobuna, Keita, Tiffania, Kumausa, Nokopara, Tomoe, Dimiurge, Poncho

Also, why did one anime get two names?

Tomoe Inui

AND

Poncho Panacotta Ishizuka

Did JJH bias towards currently airing series? Both of those are from Realist Hero which is still airing.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:38 pm

It's literally impossible for all of these to be from our flavors.

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:39 pm

In post 4798, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 4794, Cabd wrote:Tomoe Inui
Wrong Tomoe actually. Tomoe here doesn't have animal ear.

I mean in fairness it's a very generic Japanese name, a lot of the ones in your list were.

Did the game actually state their series/flavor and you were just testing the thread now, or how exactly would one know with such a generic?

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:42 pm

Nah JJH is in the camp of "anything but a provable copy paste is prolly fine" remember?

Cabd · Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:42 pm

In post 0, jjh927 wrote:7. No copying exactly what is stated in either private topics or in PMs from me. I am fairly lenient with this rule as long as some effort is made.

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:19 am

So.. gif? Either we lim me today and you have to slay out in 4P without your bonus, or you and Kate need to have a nice heart to heart.

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:19 am

Because 4847 does seem to be the final official party line.

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:27 am

In post 4851, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 4849, Cabd wrote:Because 4847 does seem to be the final official party line.
You seem to think we have phenomenal cosmic power over today's vote.

If we eliminate gif as gif wishes, then it becomes me vs luke in F4. That means all hands on deck to have a shot at the win.

What about this is confusing to you?

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:36 am

In post 4854, Kate Bishop wrote:Words that clearly don't get it

...

You dense fucks.

What the hell do you think I've been arguing literally all of today about, and where is my vote right now?

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:37 am

In post 4632, Cabd wrote:VOTE: cabd

Cool I'm Regan Bush get me the fuck out today then kill luke tomorrow probably and it's over. Not my proudest win but I'll take it. Get me out of the way.

I HAVE LITERALLY NOT UNVOTED SINCE THEN AND MY ENTIRE DAY ISO IS ME TALKING ABOUT HOW REMOVING ME OVER GIF IS BETTER UNLESS HE HAS EXTRA INFO THAT MAKES IT ASSUREDLY WORTH IT

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:38 am

Like seriously, what the fuck bizzaro universe have I wandered into when Kate fucking Bishop is pulling a shadi-nacho-hammer level of shitting in their hands and clapping?!?

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:41 am

Do you, like have a guilty on somebody and this entire sequence is your attempt to make me suffer for funsies?

Did you wake up and the entire board is in a different language and you therefore can't read my posts?

Did bork turn the "foe" feature on for games and Kate had me in the foe list for meme usage potential?

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:42 am

...

Okay this ~IS~ you trolling me.

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:44 am

In post 4657, Cabd wrote:
In post 4654, GuyInFreezer wrote:Because I never stopped townreading you, silly.

@Cabd.
Well the problem is, who does that leave in your book?

Because you just walked into a bar full of people who HARD disagree.

In post 4667, Cabd wrote:Like I don't understand how "some prize on the same power level as an extra anon pre-day vote" is worth losing an elim here, ever?

In post 4670, Cabd wrote:No..... you'll have to make the rest of this western saloon/bar believe that it somehow makes me confirmed as town.

In post 4675, Cabd wrote:I need to NOT be in any final cross-vote scenario because that is a losing proposition.

Setting aside gif's "prize" potential for a second, we're at 6 alive:

ssbm_Kyouko
Cabd
Lady Lambdadelta
Kate Bishop (hydra of notscience and fferyllt)
Lukewarm
GuyInFreezer

If we lim gif, scum then shoots the tracker, giving us a final four of {lld, luke, kate, cabd} and that ends with a cabd-luke cross which is EXTREMELY bad because then both of us cannot be off the board, and luke wins.

In post 4711, Cabd wrote:Regardless the only options I accept here is me into Luke? Gif into Luke is impossible unless somehow we are sure the gif postdeath prize is so worth it as to be able to confirm me or give us two elims of the four living players.

Gif what were the reads of other dead town?

In post 4715, Cabd wrote:I refuse Luke into me because I don't want to be blamed for the loss if my Luke read is wrong. I'd rather it be collective failure then just another page in the book of Cabd's highs and lows.

And then I'd get in trouble for playing against win condition if I self voted in final four just to end my misery.

In post 4758, Cabd wrote:I mean it's gonna be you vs Luke in final four given GAMESTATE so yeah.

In post 4762, Cabd wrote:You're not seriously entertaining eliminating gif here for some shitty prize that we don't even know what it does here are you?

In post 4765, Cabd wrote:Like, I have two options in front of me. Be absolved of my sins, or bet the entire game on MY luke read being right.

And uh, I'd rather watch the shitshow if I'm wrong from the dead thread, given my track record so far.

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:49 am

Yes? I'm telling him to give up on killing himself unless he is able to convince EVERYONE here that his "cabd town clear" is an actual thing AND has good reason to think that it's actually worth a suicide plan.

Which, spoiler alert, if you want my opinion on that notice my lack of unvote.

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:50 am

>>Cabd tells gif to give up on suicide and just go into F4 with my townflip
>>Kate be like "Wow scumcabd trying to wiggle out by convincing gif to suicide"

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:54 am

I have literally no idea, you keep repeating a point that means absolutely nothing to me because from where I sit it's either him, or it's you.

I could ask the same question of "Can one of the scum-cabd pushers explain to me why the third scum role given the two that flipped would have a player who gets to know the town role cop's flavor at game start" but it's a stupid triviality because clearly ONE of those "why" questions has a non-optimal answer.

I'm getting incredibly frustrated by you beating this drum like it's some panacea.

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:54 am

Gif, hold out your wrists again, please. Pronouns.

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:56 am

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:03 am

Living Players (6/13)

ssbm_Kyouko -
Cabd
Lady Lambdadelta
Kate Bishop (hydra of notscience and fferyllt)
Lukewarm
GuyInFreezer

In post 4674, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 4671, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Like you gotta die Cabd but I still think it is Luke at this point.
I also think Luke is scum btw.

In post 4681, Lukewarm wrote:I am not a Servant Alter Ego level of busser, so I am not sure why so many people are landing on me. Like, how I handled gamma when dunn was going down should be pretty "Luke is not partnered with the people" imo

I think it is one of Cabd/LLD

In post 4840, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Kk that's fine. I do want them later, I wanna make sure the game played out logically before I assume you're telling the truth about isekai. Assuming you are telling the truth it should be mostly proveable and game should be relatively in the bag

In post 4592, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Honestly I just wanna kill Luke.

In post 4728, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 4726, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 4720, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 4718, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Cabd lemme see this okay?

For you to be scum you had to claim a mason partner that actually exists that didnt need to be claimed at all. And even if you assumes as scum that person would be marci, why waste that on marci? Why blow that and then find out oops its wheme? Your role as scum includes, if it exists

"You know Shiro is in the game. Claiming that to have wheme shot over me or Kate makes no sense for you as scum.
I don't think it's quite this cut and dry.
To expand, if the last scum lied about their role, then wheme rolecopping them would be fatal, however low the chance of being targeted was.
Yeah I agree this makes cabd probably town too.

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:04 am

Gee, I can't possibly think why I'd focus on your opinion on Luke via having gif talk to you now when winning the game depends on you voting him over me in 4p if gif gets his way.

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:14 am

I mean I guess we live in the world where "lolcabdscumhighWIM outright campaigns for his own death and somehow masterfully pulls out a uno reverse card to sweep to victory" is something that is possible to fear, but, uh.... *gestures at game state*

LLD already made that joke though.

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:23 am

(Shit)vote or get off the pot. Just stop acting like you're actually debating anything here because it's making me effort for nothing.

I'm literally hated right now, you only need to get two other people to murder me to clear me before final four.

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:27 am

Cool, then vote me and take your final four entry ticket on the chin and stop acting like you give a damn about re-evaluating.

I've tried to explain but reality isn't good enough to overcome the cabd-town-model template, clearly.

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:34 am

I hope he told you your anime tastes are as shit as he told me mine were.

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:42 am

Gabiru is from slime anime and would be male.
Aku is from demon lord retry and would indeed be female.
Keita is... possibly form thousand lives, would be male.
Kumausa is from high school prodogies, and is epxlicitly genderless.
Otto is form bookworm and very much a male.
"Tomoe" is a woman's name, what anime is this tomoe from?

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:56 am

If you have the images, just run them through tinyeye reverse image search.

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:19 am

In post 4893, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 4882, Cabd wrote:Cool, then vote me and take your final four entry ticket on the chin and stop acting like you give a damn about re-evaluating.

I've tried to explain but reality isn't good enough to overcome the cabd-town-model template, clearly.
In this world of yours, who is being shot tonight. Me? Kyouko?

We kill you, Kyouko dies, and it's Luke/Kate/GIF/LLD?

Oh i'd assumed they'd kill kyoukou tonight regardless, but maybe not?

But yeah the f4 i'd envision happens tomorrow when we remove me from contention is LLD/Kate/Luke/Gif

And I imagine it'll be a cross between Luke and one of {LLD, Kate} with the other alongside gif having to pick correctly.

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:26 am

Look dude, there's only one Muffin-shaped parachute in this trainwreck and fuck you, it's mine.

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:28 am

You get back up here and finish your plate and vote me, young man.

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:37 am

In post 4900, GuyInFreezer wrote:Cabd you also gotta understand.
There is going to be a challenge during Night 3 too.
If scum win that we potentially face two scum advantages.

Yes, well, we could also summon Exodia and town is awarded a public loud daycop or something. At some point you gotta stop fearing the unknowns and just commit.

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:53 am

In post 4906, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Cabd, you're gonna need to stop being selfish I think.

Define "selfish"?

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:57 am

Sorry, I'm like, ubertilted.

What do you want to do?

Do you think that gif's prize is worth eliminating him here?

Do you want to just kill luke outright?

Right now it's essentially the gif-cabd-kate three player band here so I'll step back, but nobody else is really... doing anything.

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:55 am

...Posting levels of today?

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:58 am

In post 4921, Kate Bishop wrote:a drive thru

Of which said drivethru is a taco bell and you got a baja blast freeze, rite?

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:58 am

In post 4923, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 4919, Cabd wrote:...Posting levels of today?
I don't think posting levels are an accurate gauge of involvement/investment.

You're the one that divorsed my quote from the greater context of the reply to LLD it was in.

Where I stated that I recognized you-me-gif were posting a lot and choking the other three names out.

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:04 pm

In post 4926, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 4922, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 4920, GuyInFreezer wrote:Oh yeah my cabd read is locktown so I am going to skip reviewing that read.
You’re going to need to lay this out for both of us js
Gut

I am a bad person for laughing at my imagination of how Kate read this post and reacted.

Cabd · Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:13 pm

You're being treated as a collective you when I'm too annoyed to pick apart tonal markers, so nyeh.