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In post 4123, Dunnstral wrote:mhsmith you seem to have completely missed my 1933

In post 3982, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 3981, mhsmith0 wrote:

In post 3979, Dunnstral wrote:She has posts of her own as well*

today she has one post in thread

and ~170 of them in our pt

In post 4124, mhsmith0 wrote:And wolf!pie probably means:
Kagami!scum
Maybe HS!scum

In post 4125, mhsmith0 wrote:

In post 4123, Dunnstral wrote:mhsmith you seem to have completely missed my 1933

you seem to have missed that I was asking what she'd been posting TODDAY since your "170+" comment was in response to my asking what she'd done today in PT, not all game

In post 4127, Dunnstral wrote:Speaking of false dichotomy stop pushing that pie/dunn thing as a reason to push on me

In post 4131, Dunnstral wrote:Seems you were more concerned with the vote on yourself than the big wall about kagami

In post 4134, Dunnstral wrote:I like how you went from "trying to figure kagami out" to ignoring the post about kagami and pushing on me

In post 4121, Dunnstral wrote:Yeah, we talked for 30 minutes or so when she had time

She thinks Jester-MDS definitely has scum n it
She also agreed with me at the time that HS-Parama probably has scum in it
She commented that everybody wants to lynch us but nobody really wants to lynch us (which I said in thread 1000's of posts ago so I agree there)
Off of that she says either I'm scum or we're being saved for a later lynch
She thinks if I were scum I'd be unlikely to bus in this situation, not expecting to live, and so thinks if I'm scum it's with jester pair and SADboys
I asked about me not being scum and she said in that case scum would be in mhsmith-pieguy for that specific pair
Comments that there's not a lot of support for a Jester wagon
We agree that HS is setting up a weird dichotomy between SAD and Parama (at least HS is the biggest contributor and the strangest)

There's more but that's the gist of our recent exchange

In post 4119, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 1933, Dunnstral wrote:I'll start off with Kagami and this is going to be the longest one and contain the most new info... also I'm going to mix in reads on other people a lot here so bear with me I'm not that organized

First of all I may or may not be biased and want her to be town

I don't really know what she's doing. I asked why she wasn't responding to shadow in my pt and she said there was nothing for her to respond to. Thing is I know she her reads did transition in the pt but it didn't show in the main thread and she isn't defending herself so it looks bad. (Says she's posted enough for reads to be interpret-able and pie will get it)

Speaking of the pt, she's active in there too. She's got 65 posts in the main thread and ~60 in the pt and I'm willing to bet that's more than anybody else's half here (might be partially my influence as well)

Going to summarize some of Kagami's thoughts that I don't think need to be hidden (I'm outing mine too so)

-Really early in thinks jesterpair is correct choice. I agree with this
-Early on she thinks one of shadow-mariar and and gamma-vedith are town-town
-This read has shifted to now scumreading gamma, and thinking shadow-maria might be town-town
-Also thinks the ic pairing is town, along with us and hs-parama
-I've voiced suspicions on HS (mostly in-thread and tying in Kagami) while Kagami thinks HS is town but parama might need to be looked at (still thinks they're t-t for now)
. . . -I think Parama is town but question HS. Don't think either of us would lynch this right now/today though
-Says that if she were scum, she'd have paired with sickofit instead of me who scumread her
-Points out that jester townreads shadow but doesn't vote gamma though he scumreads gamma
. . . -This prompted me to ask about him intending to place a vote
. . . -Kagami made a good point very recently saying that Jester's townread on Parama is weird considering the strong townread on Shadow from the start


Note that when I pushed kagami as scum nobody bit, to the point where it seemed like everyone just said she was "lean town" when (imo) the read wasn't deserved
Based off of this I want to feel as if I'm not being pushed at all because I'm paired with Kagami.
In response kagami said she was a little offended that I assumed she was a weak scum player

As for her scumreads, they're jester, gamma, and mhsmith maybe in that order

In response to me she said if mhsmith were scum he'd be spending a low amount of effort sorting out his pt
. . . -This prompted me to ask mhsmith about his pt, to which the response from him and pie was that they hadn't really done anything (pie noted that mhsmith was 'passive')


Just from reading i got a gut townread on pie (not terribly important)
I feel as if mhsmith is mafia. I also feel good about Gamma being mafia

I've come to townread S.A.D and kagami agrees here. We're both "meh" on inspectorscout though it's not something that needs to be sorted immediately.
. . . -Kagami thinks that if mhsmith is scum this pair is very likely t-t


And that's all I have effort to write for now; ended up just being about Kagami... don't regret

To sum up my other reads:

I scumread mhsmith. In fact;
VOTE: Mhsmith-Pieguy

I still scumread gamma pair

Kagami suspects Jester pair
Current thoughts on Kagami pending

Here's my post, where I go into detail on what's going on in our PT. Here are the reactions:

In post 1937, Vedith wrote:It makes me laugh how much Dunn wants to shine away from lynch either group in me/gamma and Maria/Shadow.

For information alone, lynching these hroups are the only option.

In post 1940, MiniDeathStar wrote:Smith wagon I can agree with. VOTE: mshsmith0 x pieguyn

Jester's town though. Dunn's also town. I think he pretty much townslipped with the daychat thing.

In post 1947, Human Sequencer wrote:mhsmith-pie needs to be closely scrutinized but it definitely doesn't need to be today when we have shadowmariar, jestermds and vedithgamma all very helpful and informative lynch targets which are all likely to hit scum and every single pair can't be classified as t-t by a longshot.
Dunn's incredible lust to point the wagon literally anywhere else is concerning.

I really think (and parma agrees) that this DP is dragging on without flips. Namely shadow.

Didn't even say much about mhsmith is this post other than the fact that I scumread him

In post 4136, Dunnstral wrote:Yet you're voting jester

In post 4140, Dunnstral wrote:I didn't say what you should be doing. I'm saying I start talking about Kagami and you attempt to discredit me.

In post 4143, Dunnstral wrote:If your pair and kagami are scum (which is a possibility I'm considering) then Jester pair is the last place I'd lynch

You seem to be considering the same thing but don't seem to care

In post 4142, Dunnstral wrote:Your line of thinking doesn't make sense. Your push on maria/shadow was bad in a way that you were under pressure and voted the next wagon

In post 4144, mhsmith0 wrote:So given the logic of "pie!scum probably = jester!town", where I'm not subscribing to the first part, why does my vote not make sense?

In post 4146, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 4144, mhsmith0 wrote:So given the logic of "pie!scum probably = jester!town", where I'm not subscribing to the first part, why does my vote not make sense?

You just said you thought I'd be scum if kagami were town