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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:38 am
by MathBlade
In post 4347, Bell wrote: In post 4297, Dancing Puppets wrote: In post 4095, MathBlade wrote:Like if y’all elim Roden it’s not the end of the world as we likely get a conf town tomorrow but I’d rather not elim what is probably a true claim.
I don’t think I want to vote Math anymore.
…this isn’t a good take. MB openly stated they would prefer optimal outcomes. Instead of considering how to make this an optimal outcome they made this post which is anti-town.
The absolute worst outcome for town is killing Rosen before their partner claims.
I had already stated how to make it an optimal outcome.
At some point screaming the same thing is silly and it looks like y’all came around to it when I shut up.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:38 am
by MathBlade
In post 4201, MathBlade wrote: In post 4199, Lukewarm wrote: In post 4197, Bell wrote:4. If their partner gets shot first they can claim that their partner got shot. So we know who the partner is.
Because that could let a fake!claiming Roden go through?
Literally any town player dies.
No flip.
Roden says that was their partner.
We have no way to verify?
We do by their crumbs.
It’s not enough to say so.
Eg I crumbed C&G with inner voice because I was speaking for them.
I would expect similar crumbs from before the claim.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:39 am
by Frogsterking
I don't know if Pooky has been updating my reads, but Ceph is now my only scumread.
Roden and Nancy have both brought up independent reasons to scumread Ceph.
I think Mathblade v Bell looks TvT.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:39 am
by Cephrir
ok frogsterking
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:39 am
by Bell
…fair enough I didn’t read all of it, but it’s not even close to not being the end of the world.
It’s exactly what the scum team would want if Roden is town.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:40 am
by Frogsterking
Mathblade are you willing to vote Ceph for your VCA info or whatever?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:40 am
by MathBlade
In post 4352, Frogsterking wrote:I don't know if Pooky has been updating my reads, but Ceph is now my only scumread.
Roden and Nancy have both brought up independent reasons to scumread Ceph.
I think Mathblade v Bell looks TvT.
Bell is a null read for C&G and a scumlean for me. Puppets is much better elim.
I am correcting a mistake/lie. This isn’t a push.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:41 am
by MathBlade
I don’t think Ceph is scum. I would need someone to talk with me about why he is. I think you’re a much better vote to figure out what happened at day open.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:41 am
by Frogsterking
In post 4356, MathBlade wrote: In post 4352, Frogsterking wrote:I don't know if Pooky has been updating my reads, but Ceph is now my only scumread.
Roden and Nancy have both brought up independent reasons to scumread Ceph.
I think Mathblade v Bell looks TvT.
Bell is a null read for C&G and a scumlean for me. Puppets is much better elim.
I am correcting a mistake/lie. This isn’t a push.
Puppets v Mathblade looks TvT
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:42 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 4356, MathBlade wrote: In post 4352, Frogsterking wrote:I don't know if Pooky has been updating my reads, but Ceph is now my only scumread.
Roden and Nancy have both brought up independent reasons to scumread Ceph.
I think Mathblade v Bell looks TvT.
Bell is a null read for C&G and a scumlean for me. Puppets is much better elim.
I am correcting a mistake/lie. This isn’t a push.
Why are you not reading? You never learn anything from past games, do you?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:42 am
by MathBlade
To be fair the last puppets read for C&G was town but I am asking them about it. I haven’t had a chance to go through their numbers though so this is distinctly from the hood chat
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:43 am
by Bell
You corrected me in that you said what would be the appropriate play and then said it wouldn’t be the end of the world if Roden flipped town and their Mason partner was confirmed the next day. Which is still a bad take.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:45 am
by MathBlade
In post 4361, Bell wrote:You corrected me in that you said what would be the appropriate play and then said it wouldn’t be the end of the world if Roden flipped town and their Mason partner was confirmed the next day. Which is still a bad take.
It’s not though?
I want two masons alive. That’s the best. People came around to that.
But one confirmed town is still good. It’s not best but acceptable.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:46 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 4357, MathBlade wrote:
I don’t think Ceph is scum. I would need someone to talk with me about why he is. I think you’re a much better vote to figure out what happened at day open.
Ceph is probably scum because Math trs scum in nearly every game.
This isn’t a serious read btw but generally you want to do the exact opposite of whatever town!Math advocates.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:46 am
by Bell
I’d say they’re just scum but they’ve looped like this before I just don’t think they look for what I look for when they’re scum/town hunting. They don’t look at how a player reacts or whether it’s consistent with their perspective.
Maybe. I’m null reading them still. But their approach to the claim still bothers me.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:47 am
by Frogsterking
In post 4357, MathBlade wrote:
I don’t think Ceph is scum. I would need someone to talk with me about why he is. I think you’re a much better vote to figure out what happened at day open.
Are you sure that on some level you aren't reacting emotionally to having a 0% success rate on determining my alignment?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:47 am
by Bell
In post 4362, MathBlade wrote: In post 4361, Bell wrote:You corrected me in that you said what would be the appropriate play and then said it wouldn’t be the end of the world if Roden flipped town and their Mason partner was confirmed the next day. Which is still a bad take.
It’s not though?
I want two masons alive. That’s the best. People came around to that.
But one confirmed town is still good. It’s not best but acceptable.
Name a worse outcome D2 then the one you listed as not being the end of the world.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:48 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 4360, MathBlade wrote:To be fair the last puppets read for C&G was town but I am asking them about it. I haven’t had a chance to go through their numbers though so this is distinctly from the hood chat
I just hydra’d in a game with RH9 and we won because I killed the last scum.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:50 am
by JohnnyFarrar
I actually wouldn't mind a Mason claim (it's not me)
Being able to tie Roden to someone and potentially getting 1 to 2 conf towns would be good for reads in general right now, since we're all kind of struggling
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:50 am
by Cephrir
it's true that math is wrong sometimes but we can evaluate his points on a case by case basis rather than writing him off entirely
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:51 am
by Cephrir
In post 4368, JohnnyFarrar wrote:I actually wouldn't mind a Mason claim (it's not me)
Being able to tie Roden to someone and potentially getting 1 to 2 conf towns would be good for reads in general right now, since we're all kind of struggling
bad post c:
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:51 am
by Bell
Gunna take a step back and wait for Roden.
I’ll process.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:52 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 4369, Cephrir wrote:
it's true that math is wrong sometimes but we can evaluate his points on a case by case basis rather than writing him off entirely
I know he’s wrong on us if you even care about that and I still don’t see why Johnny’s scum? So tldr, your d1 kill list sucks.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:54 am
by MathBlade
In post 4365, Frogsterking wrote: In post 4357, MathBlade wrote:
I don’t think Ceph is scum. I would need someone to talk with me about why he is. I think you’re a much better vote to figure out what happened at day open.
Are you sure that on some level you aren't reacting emotionally to having a 0% success rate on determining my alignment?
I am pretty poor at hunting everyone so I fail to see your point here?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:55 am
by Cephrir
In post 4372, Dancing Puppets wrote: In post 4369, Cephrir wrote:
it's true that math is wrong sometimes but we can evaluate his points on a case by case basis rather than writing him off entirely
I know he’s wrong on us if you even care about that and I still don’t see why Johnny’s scum? So tldr, your d1 kill list sucks.
you can disagree with someone without saying their opinions suck
im certainly not about to spend the game ignoring mathblade even if he does turn out to have had a single incorrect read on you