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In post 4399, Davsto wrote:

In post 4388, LicketyQuickety wrote:I think Shadoweh is Scum just as much as I think shea is Scum. Both players from that slot have been supremely underwhelming and it makes justifying a TR on them pretty much non-existent.

What exactly makes tsq's play "underwhelming"?

I didn't say TSQ's play was underwhelming, I was talking about Marquis/Shadoweh.

Oh yeh I see that now you point it out. You saying "both players" confused me a little oops

Okay so my shadoweh lead is basically that I looked at CES' iso in the last team mafia white flag (2015, he was town) to see what his opinion of bussing was, and it was definitely not the "mafia would never ever bus" opinion he was pushing this game. I feel it's gotta mean something but the more I think about it the more it could just as easily be a bluff (i.e. he made a big point about not bussing and actually wasn't bussing) as him actually trying to hide his bussing.

In post 4402, Davsto wrote:Oh yeh I see that now you point it out. You saying "both players" confused me a little oops

Understandable and I am glad you questioned me about it because it was worded kind of weird.

I'm ready to end this game. I don't see any use in dragging it out when no one is posting.

Yeah, same here. Davsto even took the time to reply to himself about what I could have said back to him. (He also could have changed his thinking in three years but etc)

If this was a tribbal council Jeff would be saying it's time to VOTE. I'm at least going to wait until I'm home and see if my team have any final thoughts.

Nothing that's happened today has changed my mind. Not that much has happened. Despite some last minute discussions about Davsto as a sleeper pick fueled by fireball at 3am, Bins is a sweetheart and agrees with me the most powerful force of all is GUT! So one way or another, let's get this show on the ROAD.



If I wake up to this being over I'll feel mildly guilty for fucking up a perfectly servicable game by dropping in but remember everything is Sleepykrew's fault.

I guess we have us a 1v1.

I was really hoping I could vote for Shea, but hey, your slot deserves getting lynched, so I guess I don't mind too much.

VOTE: Shadoweh

Wow. What A Great Typical Licky Response.

In post 4408, Shadoweh wrote:Wow. What A Great Typical Licky Response.

Oh, yes, you've done so much to progress the game.

haha yeah

I'm pretty sure I just have.

In post 4410, Shadoweh wrote:haha yeah

I'm pretty sure I just have.

OK.

I'll be making my decision shortly.

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Davsto: He's looking good due to him being on CES early, and I felt his posts today were quite genuine, trying to game solve. Genuinely, I didn't have a good idea about him otherwise. A50 reads Davsto as town as well.

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Quick: Makes the least sense with Marquis. Is indeed crazy, but I have seen the effort. I have seen some good content from him. I do note that in these last few days, his posts have been more pointed and focused. His content recently is consistent with what he has been saying all game. A50 reads him as town as well.

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Shea: I see his late vote on CES that of scum. It's a bad vote. He said he had CES as 'won't lynch before Dunn NSG Marquis. If he had stuck to that, he'd be off the wagon like myself. Yet, it was more important for his own image to vote on there. Genuinely, I have nothing else. His play Day 1 seemed good, but his play the rest of the phases got lazy. He makes the most sense as scum with Marquis/Shadoweh. Defends him D1, makes a counter wagon to Marquis D3. (After I voted Marq)

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Marquis/Shadodeweh: Seems to be more interested in getting a good position in town, fails and gets wagoned, and lurks out to survive and dodge a lynch. His LQ vote is badly timed after Screen being hammered. He then shades me and never mentions why he changed his read of me from town to scum. He wasn't interested in helping secure a lynch, he was content putting his vote on me, while hailing CES as town. He lurked out through CES's lynch. At first, her content seemed consistent with what Marquis was pushing. She got better though, but my one concern with her slot, is that she wasn't willing to choose between Ran/Shea. I find this more of mindset from scum, wanting to pro-long the fight under the priority of mislynching. "Hey, let's not actually commit to this, let's just go for Dunnstral instead" is what she did. Marquis also stated a lack of motivation for playing, since the very start. There would be no good reason to have a lack of motivation without any pressure on his slot from the beginning. (Although he was rightfully pressured after)

CES was awkwardly bussing Marquis. He had it as his trump card, but let others push over him. Marquis, stayed in the position he was, which helped CES prop himself up further. It would be a win-win case for them in this scenario. Either CES gets lynched, and Marquis might get some leeway, or Marquis gets lynched and CES would get some town cred. Again, I do think CES flipping first was better information wise.

In post 122, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:

In post 121, LicketyQuickety wrote:Don't like how fast the Marquis wagon got going, especially when not everyone has even checked in yet (as far as I am aware).

Making it harder for scum to just ease into the game seems like a good thing to me. What downside do you see to the Marquiswagon?

This post is still looking bad on Marquis/Shadoweh. Ask yourself why CES would make this post, when he never voted Marquis himself, nor talked about him before that point.

In post 349, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:'Marble, why do you consider Marquis to be the towniest of the three lurkers {Dunnstral, wgeurts, Marquis} when his posts have a) been scummier and his lurking has been more in the style of a scumbag?

Vote: Marquis

Reminder that CES made this post when Marquis was down to 2 votes.

In post 4414, Ranmaru wrote:

Vote: Shadoweh

You're a wonderful human being.

Of course the fucking 1v1 is between the two players I'm least certain about either way

Of fucking course

I just think between the two, Shadoweh is most likely scum. Quick has tried to progress the game at times, while Shadoweh's predecessor didn't really care to, but prioritized their own survival. Shadoweh says she can't really interact with that, but Marquis let that marinate for a while before replacing, the damage is already done.

In post 4418, Davsto wrote:Of course the fucking 1v1 is between the two players I'm least certain about either way

Of fucking course

If you choose shadoweh, we win. If you chose me, we lose. Pretty much that simple because shea is never voting shadoweh here.

Here is a helping hand.

Creature says shadoweh not touching shea is pretty bad for both of them and that this should mean the game is pretty much on lock.

Davsto, Creature wants me to ask you what you think of shea.

Man if I was right about Ran and got distracted I'm going to be disappointed. TSQ hasn't posted, you still have time to unvote before it's too late.