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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:44 am

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Mastermind of Sin wrote:
BabyJesus wrote:I think I might be leaning Shiryu now.

Either
1 - there was a block last night, which means Shiryu is scum, or MoS IS a role reflector
2 - Scum chose not to kill.

It does seems more likely that someone would stage a battle with scum early on to clear the other, then that CA would no kill this late in the game....although I still suspect that. Better go get my tinfoil hat.....
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:50 am

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One last thing: BJ, why is it that you get three daykills? That seems kind of arbitrary.
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:42 am

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Commodore Amazing wrote:One last thing: BJ, why is it that you get three daykills? That seems kind of arbitrary.
probably because I'd use it everday if it was unlimited....
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:41 am

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Vote Count:

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Umm . . . yeah, you get the point. :?
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:42 am

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vote Shiryu


Either she fakes the spat with Rainbow, or CA did a no kill.
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:58 am

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BabyJesus wrote:
vote Shiryu


Either she fakes the spat with Rainbow, or CA did a no kill.
I'm inclined to go along with this vote. I'll let Shiryu say something just in case MoS tries to speed lynch before voting with BJ.

Also, even if this lynch is wrong, there's still a good chance that the town could win.

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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:07 pm

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Alright! I'm officially on winter break now!

My mind's a bit of a blank as far as the game goes, so I'll definitely have some re-reading to do, both of recent events and of the whole game. For now, I'll just say (again, if I did already) that from my point of view, we either have a serial killer, which might be BJ, or a godfather, which might be MoS. However, BJ has his role as a Smith in his favor, while CA doesn't.

So yeah, I've got some thinking to do here.
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:17 pm

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BabyJesus wrote:
vote Shiryu


Either she fakes the spat with Rainbow, or CA did a no kill.
Just to point out, Shuryu is a male, I've noticed recently that his gender has been confused.

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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:45 am

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Shiryu wrote:Alright! I'm officially on winter break now!

My mind's a bit of a blank as far as the game goes, so I'll definitely have some re-reading to do, both of recent events and of the whole game. For now, I'll just say (again, if I did already) that from my point of view, we either have a serial killer, which might be BJ, or a godfather, which might be MoS. However, BJ has his role as a Smith in his favor, while CA doesn't.

So yeah, I've got some thinking to do here.
ermm, just wanted to point out a few things, though since I haven't died I'm obviously not confirmed on this matter.
1) I am THE Harman Smith.
2) Kun Lan is the most likely godfather if there was one.
3) There was most likely at least one smith in the mafia, so CA NOT being a smith isn't a point against him.
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:48 am

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BabyJesus wrote:
vote Shiryu


Either she fakes the spat with Rainbow, or CA did a no kill.
I'm inclined to go along with this vote. I'll let Shiryu say something just in case MoS tries to speed lynch before voting with BJ.

Also, even if this lynch is wrong, there's still a good chance that the town could win.

Any thoughts, MoS?
well, Shiryu has a good chance of being scum at this point. I don't think BabyJesus is scum, and even if Shiryu isn't scum his role has no use to the town anymore. If you protect me tonight you will protect your self, so in the event that BJ is scum he can't kill us. If you are scum you can't kill me ever so you'd have to tie, and if I am scum I can't kill you because you can always reflect your protect onto yourself.
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:50 am

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vote: Shiryu
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:53 am

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I was going to vote in my last post, but since CA has now brought it to two votes, I'll wait for Shiryu. Shiryu, any last words?
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:55 am

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Wait, so I'm finally ready to get back into the game and you all turn on me? I am just now reading the last few pages. You guys sure had a change of heart while I was gone. Heh, at one point, you were almost certain I WASN'T mafia, MoS.

The only thing I'm fairly certaing about right now is that CA is indeed who he says he is. Again, the rolename goes with the role, and I see no reason why my innocent result on him would be wrong. Plust, he (doc) isn't a smith, same as me (cop). So ignore that Smith commentary in my last post (yeah, good 3rd point in your post 458, MoS).

Furthermore, from what I've been reading, I can definitely see BJ as a SK now. He kills during the day, but only every other day, which is what balances him out. So he would be unable to do anything today.

However, I've also realized that MoS is a good candidate to be scum. Just not godfather, that's where I was probably wrong. As you guys pointed out, he might be scum with the same ability he claims to have. That's why I might have gotten an innocent result on him.

So all we have to do is leave CA and MoS alive all the way to the end, which, if MoS really is scum, will at least give us a draw game. If that means lynching me, then so be it, as my role really is useless now.

I'm leaning more on BJ being a SK though, so I wouldn't expect a night kill tonight, regardless of who CA protects.

Having said that:

Vote: BabyJesus


Sad to say I actually had the chance to lynch him a while back, and turned it down.
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:47 pm

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Oh, and by that I meant that I'm leaning more on BJ being a SK and MoS being pro-town.
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:51 pm

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Shiryu wrote:
Furthermore, from what I've been reading, I can definitely see BJ as a SK now. He kills during the day, but only every other day, which is what balances him out. So he would be unable to do anything today.
Too bad I killed twice in a row the past two nights, huh? So much for that theory....

Please check your facts before you try to spin things though...
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:59 pm

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Oh wait, yeah, you killed CA, RotN and InHim, right?
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:29 pm

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Shiryu wrote:Oh wait, yeah, you killed CA, RotN and InHim, right?
yes...
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:37 pm

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Shiryu wrote:Oh wait, yeah, you killed CA, RotN and InHim, right?
interesting that you notice your mistake but did not unvote....
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:28 pm

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I still think you could very well be a SK somehow, and believe that the play for today is for either you or me to be lynched.

My other train of thought is that MoS is most likely to be scum. His is the only rolename that has yet to actually be confirmed.
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:09 pm

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Shiryu wrote:I still think you could very well be a SK somehow, and believe that the play for today is for either you or me to be lynched..
so think it's possible there's a scum serial killer with only 3 kills?
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:18 pm

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YOU say you have thee kills. There's no way to actually prove that, is there?
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:18 pm

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Shiryu wrote:YOU say you have thee kills. There's no way to actually prove that, is there?
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Fine, so you think I might have been limited to 4 kills then? Still a stretch.
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:51 pm

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I'm thinking more along the lines that you are limited in some other way.

However, now that I've thought it over for a bit, I'm thinking that there's a greater chance of MoS being mafia than you (Dan Smith) being a SK. His actual rolename, after all, remains unconfirmed. I don't care if we ARE missing one Harman Smith.
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:07 pm

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Yeah; Shiryu's pretty much saying the same stuff I said.
unvote: Shiryu
for now... I do think it's possible BJ is restricted in some way we haven't thought of... but that still doesn't explain the lack of a kill last night. The only way I could explain that with Shiryu not being scum is if BJ didn't kill last night to save up for a daykill later or something.
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:17 pm

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Assuming BJ is indeed a day killing SK, he can't kill at night, which would perfectly explain why no one dies last night. The other possibility is that MoS tried to kill you, and failed when you healed protected him, in turn protecting yourself.
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