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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2007 8:50 am

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well it looks like a Theo lynch isnt happenign now... :(
i gotta say, whilst i dislike the use of a nuke, i still think LML is probably protown. at least his nuke has served a purpose, as i feel No-Lynch today would be a waste. i dont think i have a read on Y, but id be intrigued to see his reaction.
as for a Pooky lynch, im not entirely sure. his play early on was scummy, but since then ive been more suspicious of MoS and Theo. i sorta feel his claim is genuine, and he isnt really playing like he does as scum. I think ima reread Raffles, in light of his scummy wagonning. From what i gather, he hasnt exactly been the most active player here.
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2007 9:46 am

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LoudmouthLee wrote:LOL. Absolutely not. I just feel very strongly about Pooky's placeholder vote on Zu Faul. It makes no sense. It also draws a parallel between Zu and Pooky.

I think the lynch of pooky will also clue us in on MoS's alignment. It's the smart play.
How will it give information on my alignment? If he's scum, you can pull out your ridiculous theory that we were scumbuddies together, and if he's town, then me being wrong about him makes me look bad.
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2007 9:51 am

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So... Look what happened while I was not here...

I actually have a feeling that the missile will strike and do nothing. LML talked about nuking since he began playing, but I think he's a better player than that. I believe he didn't like where the deadline was going and preferred to move the deadline in two days, hoping to achieve a better lynch. In case the nuke is real, I think LML just thought he selected the player he'd miss the least and is worth the two extra days.

I don't see LML as a hasty player.

Since I think I'll survive, I'll
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. I have a bad feeling about him for a long time. He's the one that started the waggon on theo and added little info since then.

If it is a nuclear warhead, you just saved Yos the trouble of looking for a replacement...

Being serious for a moment, if it is a live nuke, I don't think the town will be able to recover from a three-townie-kill during D1, especially if a townie gets lynched too.
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2007 9:55 am

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Am I the only one amused that Y followed Pooky in voting for a relatively unpressured person out of the blue?
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2007 10:02 am

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Mastermind of Sin wrote:Am I the only one amused that Y followed Pooky in voting for a relatively unpressured person out of the blue?
Y, post 402 wrote:Another player I noticed was z_F. He was the one who started the Theo waggon and then mostly disappeared.
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2007 10:03 am

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I have a gut feeling, and since I might not survive the nuke, an won't be here after the night for sure, I decided to speak my mind.
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2007 10:05 am

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Ok.
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2007 10:27 am

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Command and control equipment often malfunctions and on more than one occasion has switched to combat mode....We could launch an accidental nuclear attack on the United States within seconds.

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26 hours until the ICBMs hit Y.

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3: Pooky (Raffles, MOS, LML)
2: Zu_Faul (Y, Pooky)
2: theopor_COD (Jack, Battlemage)


After the dust settles, a majority of the vote will cause a lynch.
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2007 12:11 pm

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Y wrote:So... Look what happened while I was not here...

I actually have a feeling that the missile will strike and do nothing. LML talked about nuking since he began playing, but I think he's a better player than that. I believe he didn't like where the deadline was going and preferred to move the deadline in two days, hoping to achieve a better lynch. In case the nuke is real, I think LML just thought he selected the player he'd miss the least and is worth the two extra days.

I don't see LML as a hasty player.

Since I think I'll survive, I'll
vote z_F
. I have a bad feeling about him for a long time. He's the one that started the waggon on theo and added little info since then.

If it is a nuclear warhead, you just saved Yos the trouble of looking for a replacement...

Being serious for a moment, if it is a live nuke, I don't think the town will be able to recover from a three-townie-kill during D1, especially if a townie gets lynched too.
Let's have some game theory, Y.

Y, you need to claim country and warheads now.


If the missile is active, you will be proven in death. If the missile is false, the town will have information based on your role claim, and we can see if you're worth lynching.

Any denial to go alomg with the request will be seen as an anti-town manuver.
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2007 4:12 pm

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I've gotten into China earlier than expected but can't expect to have consistent internet access

I was actually hoping we'd lynch Z-Faul. a NL would actually not hurt us that badly depending on whether Lee's nuke is real or not, I don't think it's real but by the way he's attacking me on it, I'm going to have to assume that it is real, which means we're going into night with possibly only an odd number.

Tell me this Lee, if you actually believed that Game theory you just blurted, why did you choose to put it here now instead of when you fired your nuke at him?

I have a preemptive nuke order going out at about 10 minutes before Lee's nuke hits, this is both because I suspect a certain player as well as because I figure we might as well be gunning for it if we're going to go down.

The nuke is designated to be fired at either Raffles or Lee, both of whom I have suspicions of.(Both of you should do your upmost to make me believe you are not scum at this point, Anix's track record wasn't that good and niether was raffles, Lee's not exactly been on track, the last time he told me I was the right play and got me lynched he turned out to be scum so I'm somewhat skeptical of him this time.)

You can lynch me after my nuke lands, but I humbly submit to you that it may be wiser in game play terms for another player who can't fire nukes to fire a fake nuke in order to extend the deadline in order to see if my nuke hits a scumbag first.
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2007 4:45 pm

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PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I've gotten into China earlier than expected but can't expect to have consistent internet access

I was actually hoping we'd lynch Z-Faul. a NL would actually not hurt us that badly depending on whether Lee's nuke is real or not, I don't think it's real but by the way he's attacking me on it, I'm going to have to assume that it is real, which means we're going into night with possibly only an odd number.

Tell me this Lee, if you actually believed that Game theory you just blurted, why did you choose to put it here now instead of when you fired your nuke at him?

I have a preemptive nuke order going out at about 10 minutes before Lee's nuke hits, this is both because I suspect a certain player as well as because I figure we might as well be gunning for it if we're going to go down.

The nuke is designated to be fired at either Raffles or Lee, both of whom I have suspicions of.(Both of you should do your upmost to make me believe you are not scum at this point, Anix's track record wasn't that good and niether was raffles, Lee's not exactly been on track, the last time he told me I was the right play and got me lynched he turned out to be scum so I'm somewhat skeptical of him this time.)

You can lynch me after my nuke lands, but I humbly submit to you that it may be wiser in game play terms for another player who can't fire nukes to fire a fake nuke in order to extend the deadline in order to see if my nuke hits a scumbag first.
#1) Pooky, you gave NO reason for your vote on Zu Faul. How can you argue that you wanted to actually lynch zu-faul? You made no case for it. How can you assume we'd all decide to lynch him?

#2) You can decide that a NL would be NOT BAD for the town? You're MUCH better than that, Pooks... Last time I checked, it's NOT A GOOD IDEA to go into night WITHOUT a lynch and 2 townie deaths. Just saying.

#3) Go ahead and nuke me. I'll send one RIGHT BACK. If you kill me, you'd be killing a townie, and I'd rather EVERYONE lose rather than JUST the town lose.

#4) Metagaming due to a past game that happened over a YEAR ago? PFFT. You ARE the right lynch today.

#5) Game theory works here. I get information. If I don't have a nuke warhead, we FORCE Y to gain information. It's a matter of gaining information. It's forceful, but it works.

#6) You nuke me, I nuke you. Wanna play? You'll lose the game for everyone, won't you?
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2007 10:10 pm

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#1 i thought the reasoning had already been stated
#2 going in with an even number as opposed to an odd one? what's the difference between a random lynch and a random nuke lee? how many lynches should we have per day?
#3 so should Y nuke you back by your logic?
#4 not my fault you play only so many games and have only used that line on me one time that I can remember. How am I the bloody play? I should be the most confirmed person in this bloody room, I threatened to snuff the entire world unless the terrorists revealed one of their number and would've gotten away with it until Yosa clarified that rule.
#5 I questioned the TIMING of your comment, not why you made it, why would you choose to make the comment at the later time rather than the earlier time? Would it have something to do with trying to seem like you are trying to pump him for information while giving him less time to respond? Or do you want to play the "i forgot oops" card?
#6 I'm pretty bloody sure I made my position on whether I will toss the game down the drain for everyone to get the terrorists to reveal themselves very clear in an earlier post, if you aren't going to read what I've written, don't wave your mighty stick of death doom and threaten to thump me.
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2007 10:13 pm

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I'd state the reasoning for Z-F but i'm late to dinner, will try to post them later, take a look at his posts for yourself
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2007 11:31 pm

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Pooky, I'm sorry for stating the obvious but; how are you going to fire a nuke at me? Last time I remembered, you can't fire at anyone who hasn't fired a nuke previously. Am I seeing an inconsistent scumbag?
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:06 am

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Raffles wrote:Pooky, I'm sorry for stating the obvious but; how are you going to fire a nuke at me? Last time I remembered, you can't fire at anyone who hasn't fired a nuke previously. Am I seeing an inconsistent scumbag?
I was going to say the same thing...
LoudmouthLee wrote:
Y, you need to claim country and warheads now.
I'm Japan. I have no nukes at the moment and I'm pro-town. I'll have nukes later in the game (That, or I'll be dead. Whichever comes first).
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:00 am

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Raffles wrote:Pooky, I'm sorry for stating the obvious but; how are you going to fire a nuke at me? Last time I remembered, you can't fire at anyone who hasn't fired a nuke previously. Am I seeing an inconsistent scumbag?
^This. as far as im aware, you can only fire at MoS, LML or Theo-and only LML if his nuke hits.

@Y-how do you mean, you get more nukes later in the game? :?
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:05 am

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wtf are you firing at LML/Raffles, if your vote is on Z_F? :o
i agree about LMLs 'game theory' being flawed. i dont believe he sent a real nuke, as that would just be stupid.

im starting to dislike Pooky atm. i also REALLY dislike the amount of ill-considered nuke-threats.
in light of his last few posts, id rather see a Pooky lynch at deadline than a no-lynch.
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PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I've gotten into China earlier than expected but can't expect to have consistent internet access

I was actually hoping we'd lynch Z-Faul. a NL would actually not hurt us that badly depending on whether Lee's nuke is real or not, I don't think it's real but by the way he's attacking me on it, I'm going to have to assume that it is real, which means we're going into night with possibly only an odd number.

Tell me this Lee, if you actually believed that Game theory you just blurted, why did you choose to put it here now instead of when you fired your nuke at him?

I have a preemptive nuke order going out at about 10 minutes before Lee's nuke hits, this is both because I suspect a certain player as well as because I figure we might as well be gunning for it if we're going to go down.

The nuke is designated to be fired at either Raffles or Lee, both of whom I have suspicions of.(Both of you should do your upmost to make me believe you are not scum at this point, Anix's track record wasn't that good and niether was raffles, Lee's not exactly been on track, the last time he told me I was the right play and got me lynched he turned out to be scum so I'm somewhat skeptical of him this time.)

You can lynch me after my nuke lands, but I humbly submit to you that it may be wiser in game play terms for another player who can't fire nukes to fire a fake nuke in order to extend the deadline in order to see if my nuke hits a scumbag first.
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:21 am

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We need
more votes on LYING Pookie.


By the way, I fully believe Raffle to be PRO-TOWN, especially if Pookie if/when pookie comes up as scum. That was a professional slip-up catch. Kudos.

All signs point to Pooky. GET TO IT, PEOPLE!

Mod, Vote Count, Deadline Time, and Deadline Lynch Rules again, please?
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:29 am

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Battle Mage wrote:wtf are you firing at LML/Raffles, if your vote is on Z_F? :o
If you were paying attention, he said he can only fire an armed nuke at someone who fired a nuke today. I haven't done so.
Y wrote: He's the one that started the waggon on theo and added little info since then.
Yeah, and Jack was a very active player, you're right. :/

Why should I have done any different if it was until the unvote my honest feeling that theo was scum? You and Pooky are jsut being silly now.
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:42 am

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That makes 5. Do we need more?
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:41 am

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zu_Faul wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:wtf are you firing at LML/Raffles, if your vote is on Z_F? :o
If you were paying attention, he said he can only fire an armed nuke at someone who fired a nuke today. I haven't done so.
thats what i said. if he suspected LML and Raffles, why wasnt he voting for them. why would you be defending him? :?
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:45 am

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I will be away from around 11pm EST Friday, June 1st until Monday, June 4th at around 7am EST for my
bachelor party
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No comments about Belly Dancers, either.
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:12 am

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It's all about the male strippers, eh?

Congrats.
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:58 am

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Approx. 3 hours until the ICBMs hit Y.

VOTE COUNT:

5: Pooky (Raffles, MOS, LML, Battlemage, Zu Faul)
2: Zu_Faul (Y, Pooky)
1: theopor_COD (Jack)


After all the dust settles from the current nuclear exchange, because of deadline rules, a majority of those voting will cause a lynch.

In other words, if there are still 8 people voting after the bombs fall, then 5 votes would cause a deadline lynch.
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:55 am

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Lets rock.

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