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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:48 am
by Magua
Vote Count 6.5
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Harakiri (2): ProHawk, Lord Mhork
Nero Cain (2): 1baldeagle1, uʍop ǝpısdn
Ghostly Penguin (1): BBmolla
Not Voting (7): VoidedMafia, Nero Cain, Lost Butterfly, Garuda, Ghostly Penguin, Harakiri, zMuffinMan
Deadline for Day 6 is Monday, December 23rd, at 5:00am EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:
(expired on 2013-12-23 05:00:00)
Prodded Lost Butterfly and Garuda.
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:26 am
by Lord Mhork
I love how the moment I decide that there's a better lynch than Nero, people start getting all gunghoe about it. >.>
Where were you all for the bast three or so days?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:07 am
by Lost Butterfly
I think that has more to do with Nero having been governed yesterday.
Don't have a lot of time now, but just a heads-up: the mod error has to do with Harakiri's bids. He claimed all his actions in the neighbourhood. After checking it over, I saw he made an illegal bid N2 (as in, he bid more money than he had). Before outing him in the thread, I double-checked with Magua that the math didn't add up, and he confirmed it. But then a mod error was announced in the thread, and Natirasha immediately posted in the neighbourhood QT to go, "Oh, it turns out there was a mistake, one of my bids shouldn't have been allowed, and I have $1 extra now."
FTR, I checked, and a mod error would have been announced whether Harakiri had been allowed to make incorrect bids N2 OR Magua had approved an invalid fakeclaim. I thought Natirasha's reaction to it in the QT was pretty smooth and natural, so was about to say that it might actually be a point in his favour...but his reaction to my telling him I found his mistake was weird, so...I'll get back to you on this one.
Sorry for putting off the QT paraphrase. I've been delaying posting in this game mostly because it's tedious and every time I start a Marketplace post, I go, "Fuck, the QT paraphrase. Do that first." Also, because I'm terrible at this game and might have saved baldeagle-scum by starting a counterwagon on someone I'd second-guessed myself out of thinking was confirmed town. So...yeah.
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:08 am
by zMuffinMan
nero wrote:I just wanted to see what you thought of his dishonesty
i don't see the "dishonesty" in what he said. at best, mistaken because you never made you didn't make your read on him clear at various points in the game.
nero wrote:Can you explain how his looks "genuinely town" but when I said practically the same thing before him its different?
i don't remember where you said anything similar, but i imagine if you did and i read it, it was contextually different
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:36 pm
by ProHawk
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:13 pm
by Garuda
In post 4546, Lost Butterfly wrote:I'm fine shooting tonight, particularly since Gravedigger was never claimed.
That said, do you realize there's an obvious problem with publicly announcing my target?
Nero/Mhork/Eagle are the only real thoughts I will probably contribute to the game. And also your neighbor is the only player in the big 6 to apparently accomplish anything with abilities. Do I find that weird, considering this member of the big 6 was one of the most competent and should have been the biggest threat? Yes, I do find that weird.
Well, it could be they were more afraid of pie's money than my remaining cop shot (given I'd obviously just blown most of my cash on two expensive abilities)...but for the record, I find it weird that both my actions went through, too. It implies the team shooting/with roleblocking power had ways around my second cop result.
The lock-out theory is complete tinfoil hat, but it would explain why ONE team didn't bid on NK.
Garuda, thoughts on Harakiri, and on that eagle post Muffin called town?
It doesn't explain why the other team didn't bid on NK. Why would scum lock out a player that wasn't in the big 6?
Harakiri is town, don't give a shit about the post muffin called town.
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:16 pm
by Garuda
In post 4566, 1baldeagle1 wrote:
Since you are the one townreading him, you can do it. Don't try to push the work over to me.
It was your work to do in the first place; interested in seeing your response.
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:17 pm
by Garuda
In post 4576, Lord Mhork wrote:I love how the moment I decide that there's a better lynch than Nero, people start getting all gunghoe about it. >.>
Where were you all for the bast three or so days?
Why did you stop pushing Nero again?
VOTE: Nero Cain
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:46 pm
by Lord Mhork
Because hara failed to submit and NK went for a dollar?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:45 pm
by uʍop ǝpısdn
In post 4576, Lord Mhork wrote:I love how the moment I decide that there's a better lynch than Nero, people start getting all gunghoe about it. >.>
Where were you all for the bast three or so days?
Who is this post about/to?
If it's me, it's pretty obvious where I've been for the past three days. If it's not, your timing is pretty weird because there was only one other vote on Nero at the time.
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:47 pm
by Lord Mhork
Just the general 'alright let's lynch Nero' feel.
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:52 pm
by uʍop ǝpısdn
That's hardly gunghoe.
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:53 pm
by uʍop ǝpısdn
Your point about hatakiri is good though. What do you think of lb's revelation about the moderror?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:58 pm
by Lord Mhork
I honestly have no idea what he was saying with that. If someone could explain it to me as if I were 5, that'd be greatly appreciated
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:52 pm
by Ghostly Penguin
In post 4588, Lord Mhork wrote:I honestly have no idea what he was saying with that. If someone could explain it to me as if I were 5, that'd be greatly appreciated
I'm not following either. Math error happened, was noted by mod, may or may not have been a math error on a townie's bid or a scum's faked bids, although that begs the question of why the mod would be involved in vetting the specifics of a scum fake claim.
If people don't want to mass claim I'm good with lynching Nero Cain. It would be nice to get an efficiency bonus for a change, and I see no reason for a townie to be governored in that situation yesterday. I'm fine waiting for LB to figure out the mod error interpretation, but not forever.
BBmolla, anything in particular you want to discuss with me?
--PA
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:21 am
by ProHawk
I see no reason for scum to be governored either... auto lynch the next day. If you are going to clamor about money, look at the bids and the amounts. Money is not an issue for scum at this point.
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:36 am
by Magua
Vote Count 6.6
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Nero Cain (3): 1baldeagle1, uʍop ǝpısdn, Garuda
Harakiri (2): ProHawk, Lord Mhork
Ghostly Penguin (1): BBmolla
Not Voting (6): VoidedMafia, Nero Cain, Lost Butterfly, Ghostly Penguin, Harakiri, zMuffinMan
Deadline for Day 6 is Monday, December 23rd, at 5:00am EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:
(expired on 2013-12-23 05:00:00)
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:06 am
by Lost Butterfly
Ghostly Penguin:
Fakeclaim: The Entrepreneur Role PM is posted in the thread. If you give me specific game mechanics, I will write the relevant PM for you incorporating those elements with proper flavor and styling.
In addition upon request I will verify that your math for fake wages, auctions, transfers, etc complies with all publicly known rules.
Otherwise, they'd actually be confirmed
town
right now.
Sakura argued in the QT that they wouldn't have been notified of the error as scum. This is ridiculous ("Oops, I accidentally approved an invalid fakeclaim...but I'm just not going to tell them and wait for them to get lynched for it"), but I like the fact that
she
thought this would confirm them, because it's kind of an adorably town mindset. (Also, I'll answer your posts in the neighbourhood later.)
ProHawk: I considered Garuda, upside down, and Muffin, but I neighbourized Harakiri because I thought they were town, pieguyn was the likely NK if I wasn't dying, and because they asked and I thought I'd be nice and accept their request in case they had important role stuff to discuss.
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:05 am
by ProHawk
See... you and someone else has put out the theme "Why would we do this when people have called us town" thing. Well, thinking about it you COULDN'T have kept quiet over who you neighborized because you CLAIMED to have won it. As scum you know that it is both advantageous to neighborize the other team as well as how scummy it would look if you just claimed to have not neighborized anyone/not said anything about your neighborhood. Therefore you had to claim. Then came the bussing and all of that to help people not think you were both scum.
Why did you think they were town? I absolutely think they are scum.
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:34 am
by Garuda
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:35 am
by Garuda
Do you really think scumhunting is gonna be like "oh damn I forgot to submit for the night kill last night" when it ends up going for a dollar?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:35 am
by Garuda
This might have something to do with the whole governing thing.
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:37 am
by Garuda
In post 4590, ProHawk wrote:I see no reason for scum to be governored either... auto lynch the next day. If you are going to clamor about money, look at the bids and the amounts. Money is not an issue for scum at this point.
Panic mislynch, a chance at survival when scum would otherwise die. Why not govern scum?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:09 pm
by Lord Mhork
See that's what really bothers me. For the first time all game I'm thinking that Nero might actually be town. Scum sets up the endgame with a governing and then wins.
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:52 pm
by BBmolla
I'm a bit out of touch with everything at this point, I do remember thinking you're scum so I'm going with that. Anything you want to dicuss with me?