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You don't have to trust me. You just have to lynch scum.In post 4647, Nero Cain wrote:Slandaar is a good lynch, I still don't trust you as town though.
I disagreed with your calling what AK did a deflection, and I explained why (although AK doesn't seem to agree with me, so it's more of a null point now). I also didn't think what Mollie did was a deflection, although I do think it was a dodge. That one may just be a simple difference in definitions.In post 4647, Nero Cain wrote: I think your "Nero deflected but no one else did!!" is silly and scummy
I was more interested in saving def. town than directing the vig. I think now that CTD has been taken away as an option, ThAd can make a better choice for the town. At least you came through with the vig. pool, and, with the exception of Rena, I approve.In post 4647, Nero Cain wrote: and that whole "Thad can vig anyone but CTD" seems incredibly lazy.
I disagree. Khan's defense of Slaandar was strange, and he's been suspected by AK, and to a degree Ffullisade. Bacde or Nacho being viged would shed some light on a more contentious part of the game and would allow town to finally unify like it needs to.In post 4654, Cephrir wrote:At the very least, KK, Bacde and Nacho are like the absolute worst vig targets in the game
Uh, yes?In post 4646, Bulbazak wrote: So your reason when previously asked about it was that you thought PV and Desp. were on a scumteam together, even though they are both in separate neighborhoods in a normal game? And the reasoning for that was, "I have reasoning, but I don't feel like saying what it is and backing up my absurd accusation which I just made up."? Yeah, not buying it.
Ugh it really doesn't matter than much its such a pointless thing to argue, if you assume the higher number you avoid issues later. That is literally the only difference so its better. There is no reason to assume 3/3 instead of 4/4. I have lots of scum reads and they fit nicely in 4/4 so I assume 4 its just logical.In post 4646, Bulbazak wrote: Actually, it's in town's best interest to assume the best case scenario, i.e. Shaheed's Law, and in the event that we're wrong, we can always recalibrate on the fly. Scum tends to congregate on preparing for the town's worst case scenario, since that is what they need in order to win. Therefore, assume 1 team until it becomes evident that it's multiball, and assume a ratio of 1:3 until it becomes evident that you're wrong. Scum will react in the opposite way, and then we can catch them and lynch them.
I have done plenty of scumhunting thanks, but after making a case and showing someone is scum what more can one do? Rewrite the case with pretty colours?In post 4646, Bulbazak wrote: I think it's funny that you have been calling me scum all game for saying something similar, and then when you are called out on doing little scumhunting, your reasoning is, "Well, I can't make people do anything.".
Well heres a case, between Fuzzy and Rena they have managed to do a total of zero scumhunting. Rena managed more posts as breadcrumb posts and talk about watcher than actual content posts. I mean its pretty obvious she is scum coasting.In post 4646, Bulbazak wrote: Her posts have felt genuine and have given me an overall town feel. I have never understood the case on her, and whenever I asked people to elaborate on it, they refused to do so. As far as I understand, it's based on Fuzzy's early posts, which are taken out of context given the nature of ISOs. If anybody has anything more than that, I'd like to hear it.
This can't be all you had. I dropped it without ever revisiting because DLG got replaced. And I didn't follow up on Ryu accusations because he fucking died that night.In post 4656, Slandaar wrote:I have reasoning actually... Desp made case on DLG, his best contribution of the Day which he dropped without ever revisiting he also made some weak accusations towards Ryu without following up.
Really? They're scumbuddies because they aren't bussing each other? I'm sure there are a variety of pairs in this game who aren't attacking one another and, newsflash, they aren't all scum.Slandaar wrote:Then PV comes in and voted Oversoul D1 out of the blue over Desp; PV who doesn't like to bus.
Because it would be unbalanced and give them an advantage over both town and the other team.In post 4656, Slandaar wrote: Why can't 2 bluescum be in 2 different neighbourhoods Bulba?
That's pretty weak, actually. IIRC, Desp. dropped DLG to focus on Nacho, by which point another player replaced into the slot. Also, PV not attacking who his predecessor attacked is not alignment indicative. This looks more like you made up a reason on the fly to justify your previous reason that you made up on the fly.In post 4656, Slandaar wrote: I have reasoning actually... Desp made case on DLG, his best contribution of the Day which he dropped without ever revisiting he also made some weak accusations towards Ryu without following up. DLG made case on Ryu and was adamant to lynch Ryu (see previous case) but dropped it without a word. Then PV comes in and voted Oversoul D1 out of the blue over Desp; PV who doesn't like to bus.
So your new reason to suspect 8 scum players is that you don't want to give up scumreads? If that was the case, I would have thought that there were still 10 scum left as I entered this day phase, instead of acknowledging that I was probably wrong about some of my reads and still needed to work through them.In post 4656, Slandaar wrote: Ugh it really doesn't matter than much its such a pointless thing to argue, if you assume the higher number you avoid issues later. That is literally the only difference so its better. There is no reason to assume 3/3 instead of 4/4. I have lots of scum reads and they fit nicely in 4/4 so I assume 4 its just logical.
Probably one of the best cases you've made all game was on PV, and that was actually made as a way to lynch his neighbor, ThAd, who was actually under heat at the time. So sorry, I don't buy the "I've done plenty of scumhunting" line, especially coupled with "I can't make people do anything", which is hypocritical, since you've been attacking me for saying the same thing.In post 4656, Slandaar wrote:I have done plenty of scumhunting thanks, but after making a case and showing someone is scum what more can one do? Rewrite the case with pretty colours?In post 4646, Bulbazak wrote: I think it's funny that you have been calling me scum all game for saying something similar, and then when you are called out on doing little scumhunting, your reasoning is, "Well, I can't make people do anything.".
If you think that's what I've been doing, then you are highly mistaken. I've been hounding various players on things that I find scummy. Sure I might not make a pretty point by point case, but I still do my best to find scum and reveal them to the town. Meanwhile, you spent 2 whole day phases just pointlessly arguing with Thor on semantics. And then you have the audacity to accuse me about arguing inane things?In post 4656, Slandaar wrote: You on the other hand don't make cases you just argue innane things repetedly. Huge difference.
ScumslipIn post 4661, Bulbazak wrote:Because it would be unbalanced and give them an advantage over both town and the other team.In post 4656, Slandaar wrote: Why can't 2 bluescum be in 2 different neighbourhoods Bulba?
Common sense.In post 4662, Slandaar wrote:ScumslipIn post 4661, Bulbazak wrote:Because it would be unbalanced and give them an advantage over both town and the other team.In post 4656, Slandaar wrote: Why can't 2 bluescum be in 2 different neighbourhoods Bulba?
Because either team having more than 1 scum in the neighborhoods would be unbalanced. Seriously, your attacks are getting weaker and more desperate.In post 4663, Slandaar wrote:How does Bulb know red don't have 2 scum in hoods?
Its like you are redscum Bulb
Hi Bulbas buddy.In post 4665, Cephrir wrote:The suggestion is, then, that Bulb has scumslipped the knowledge that there aren't 4 scum neighbors out of 6 neighbors, in a normal game...
Get real.
It would be unfair on poor redscum.Because it would be unbalancedand give them an advantage over both town and the other team.
Don't worry, I won't be using it.