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In post 470, skitter30 wrote:

In post 465, Micc wrote:Skitter continuing to scumread Farren is scummy to me.

Do tell
How are u reading norwegian?

Farren’s been incredibly Town over the last 72 hours or so, and if you haven’t seen that I think it’s because you haven’t been looking for it.

I don’t know how Norwegian got out of my lynch pool originally but I would consider him back in now. Not that I think he’s particularly scummy, but he’s not someone I’d go out of my way to defend/work with.

So just highlighting that the rationale ur giving for ur two scumreads pushing you is 'why not'

Leu probably, i'm rethinking farren

Rn i think ur the scummiest tho

@norwegian ^

In post 475, Micc wrote:

In post 470, skitter30 wrote:

In post 465, Micc wrote:Skitter continuing to scumread Farren is scummy to me.

Do tell
How are u reading norwegian?

Farren’s been incredibly Town over the last 72 hours or so, and if you haven’t seen that I think it’s because you haven’t been looking for it.

I don’t know how Norwegian got out of my lynch pool originally but I would consider him back in now. Not that I think he’s particularly scummy, but he’s not someone I’d go out of my way to defend/work with.

Yeah he pointed out i may be tunneled, which is fair, i think, i want to reconsider a bit

Also i dont get why norwegian is in your lynchpool ... 'he's not someone i'd go out of my way to defend / work with' - why is this a reason to put someone in your lynchpool day1?

@Skitter30
If you think my rationale is "why not" then you're incredibly dishonest Skitter30.
I'm sticking with my Chemist vote anyways, so if you're not worried about his flip i'd advice you to do the same. If he's town the suspicion will be directed towards me in any case.

My day 1 lynchpool is anyone who I wouldn’t go out of my way to defend/work with. Also people I respect enough to give space to regardless of what they’re doing, but that’s a short list of people

I don't really care Micc, it's not like you've defended me even a single time in this entire thread.

I’m not talking to you?

Oh, sorry for commenting on what you say. Rude of me.

In post 455, NorwegianboyEE wrote:

In post 448, skitter30 wrote: basically i still don't like his rvs post but like he hasn't done much else ai and i think people are scummier and being suspicious of him became like a ~popular~ opinion so i'm wondering if scum were piling on when it was popular

Such a bad argument. Your only defense of Chemist is that people are voting him because he seems suspicious... That’s why you think he’s town? Seriously?

If she thinks scum is pushing Chemist, that seems a totally logical reason to think Chemist is less likely to be scum to me.

Skitter, I think what I’m saying is that if you’re Town then you Farren and I are a strong voting block that should be looking to consolidate instead of fighting each other. Note that I’m not entirely convinced you’re Town, but I’m happier pretending you are for at least a day than anyone else in the playerlist. As I see it Leucosticte, Norwegian and oobsy are the valid wagons and we should be having a discussion about which is best. I think that probably involves me taking a good look at Norwegian and you taking a good look at Leucosticte.

In post 483, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Oh, sorry for commenting on what you say. Rude of me.

Just felt like a really weird comment. I was unsure if understood the context of my posting and sought to clarify.

I guess my question at this point is, what was the point of your comment?

I doubt either Oobsy or Leucosticte is mafia.

@Micc You said "I'm not talking to you" which made me feel very offended. This is a mafia game, why should it matter who's talking or not? Also i'm disappointed that you're planning to stick together with your veteran buddies rather than looking at who is logically townie or scummy out of everyone.

In post 464, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I wouldn't trust the meta. Might just be scumplayers doing their tricks to fool us into a hard townread.

Meta's a tool, just like any other. It can be used, misused, and abused.

Example, for skitter: Mini Normal 2082.

skitter death-tunnels on Pine. skitter's Town. Pine's Town.

Establishes: skitter can death-tunnel on Town as Town. Therefore, skitter death-tunneling on me cannot be taken as proof of lockscum-skitter.
Does not establish: skitter is definitely Town. I'd need to read a wide enough selection of skitter's scumgames to establish that she doesn't (or does?) do that as scum.

baby kangaroo

Lynching

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Chemist1422

(2): Jamelia, NorwegianboyEE

Jamelia

(2): Dyrenz, Mr Oobsy

Leucosticte

(2): Micc, Farren

NorwegianboyEE

(2): Chemist1422, skitter30

Farren

(1): Leucosticte

Not Voting

(0):

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-09-04 23:00:00).

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In post 469, skitter30 wrote:Ah ok

Not sure how well that represents my scumgame as a whole

Is there a better way of finding game lists and alignment than looking at a player's topics posted in? Takes a lot of digging to find scumgames that way amongst prolific players.

In post 487, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I doubt either Oobsy or Leucosticte is mafia.

@Micc You said "I'm not talking to you" which made me feel very offended. This is a mafia game, why should it matter who's talking or not? Also i'm disappointed that you're planning to stick together with your veteran buddies rather than looking at who is logically townie or scummy out of everyone.

I’m sorry that you were offended by my attempt to clarify that I was talking to skitter and got you. It matters to me because I want my posts to be understood in the context I meant then and not some other way.

Presenting me as allying with veteran buddies irrespective of making reads in the thread is a pretty big misrepresentation of where I’m at.

Finally, please answer what your intent was when you made post 481 without dodging this time.

In post 479, NorwegianboyEE wrote:@Skitter30

If you think my rationale is "why not" then you're incredibly dishonest Skitter30.

I'm sticking with my Chemist vote anyways, so if you're not worried about his flip i'd advice you to do the same. If he's town the suspicion will be directed towards me in any case.

In post 471, NorwegianboyEE wrote:

In post 468, skitter30 wrote:The whole scumteam piles on you because ...

I read someone say on a different mafia thread (Or maybe it was this one, i can't remember) that it's been trendy lately for the mafia team to pile up their votes on one user because "There's no way mafia would do that!!"

So why not?

(underlining added)

This does not look like skitter being dishonest to me. This looks like skitter using your exact words in proper context. I see no other posts afterwards where you expanded upon your rationale.

If there's more to it than that, you need to explain it. If I missed something, please point it out.

In post 490, Farren wrote:

In post 469, skitter30 wrote:Ah ok

Not sure how well that represents my scumgame as a whole

Is there a better way of finding game lists and alignment than looking at a player's topics posted in? Takes a lot of digging to find scumgames that way amongst prolific players.

Some players keep a list of games in their wiki. Only a handful are committed to keeping it up to date. Besides that you’re mostly limited to viewing their past threads, using search or asking them.

In post 491, Micc wrote:

In post 487, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I doubt either Oobsy or Leucosticte is mafia.

@Micc You said "I'm not talking to you" which made me feel very offended. This is a mafia game, why should it matter who's talking or not? Also i'm disappointed that you're planning to stick together with your veteran buddies rather than looking at who is logically townie or scummy out of everyone.

I’m sorry that you were offended by my attempt to clarify that I was talking to skitter and got you. It matters to me because I want my posts to be understood in the context I meant then and not some other way.

Presenting me as allying with veteran buddies irrespective of making reads in the thread is a pretty big misrepresentation of where I’m at.

Finally, please answer what your intent was when you made post 481 without dodging this time.

I thought you knew? I was responding to this:

"I don’t know how Norwegian got out of my lynch pool originally but I would consider him back in now."

In post 493, Micc wrote:Some players keep a list of games in their wiki. Only a handful are committed to keeping it up to date. Besides that you’re mostly limited to viewing their past threads, using search or asking them.

Heh. Asking may be good for post-game, but I wouldn't trust it during the game.

Falls into the same category as "I would never do X as scum!" arguments. Too much WIFOM potential to be meaningful.

@norwegian:
Ok, so what makes you think that I care how much you care about where you are in my reads?

Like how is 481 moving the game forward?

At first I just wanted to give clarification, but now it feels like you were just trying to jump in and throw shade at me or pick a fight...

In post 496, Micc wrote:@norwegian:
Ok, so what makes you think that

anyone

cares...

Ebwop

In post 479, NorwegianboyEE wrote:@Skitter30
If you think my rationale is "why not" then you're incredibly dishonest Skitter30.
I'm sticking with my Chemist vote anyways, so if you're not worried about his flip i'd advice you to do the same. If he's town the suspicion will be directed towards me in any case.

i asked you what scum!me and scum!chemist were doing, both voting you?

and you said that sometimes scum vote together because it's unexpected, but couldn't explain why i'd be doing that more than 'why not'

explain how this is dishonest

i think ur vote on chemist is awful

In post 485, Micc wrote:Skitter, I think what I’m saying is that if you’re Town then you Farren and I are a strong voting block that should be looking to consolidate instead of fighting each other. Note that I’m not entirely convinced you’re Town, but I’m happier pretending you are for at least a day than anyone else in the playerlist. As I see it Leucosticte, Norwegian and oobsy are the valid wagons and we should be having a discussion about which is best. I think that probably involves me taking a good look at Norwegian and you taking a good look at Leucosticte.

i don't townread u tho :/

i'm very very very confident that oobsy is town

i could vote leu, i guess, but i'd much rather norwegian