I knew you were pushing for a mass name claim early on, you've softclaimed a PR but refused to outline exactly what it is, and you've been rolefishing for people hard. That alone is enough to quantify you as scum.
Unless you have a good reason for a mass nameclaim, which I didn't see when I skimmed your posts. Or is your logic just that your vague roleclaim could use names?
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:39 am
by IceGuy
↑McStab wrote:I knew you were pushing for a mass name claim early on, you've softclaimed a PR but refused to outline exactly what it is, and
you've been rolefishing for people hard.
That alone is enough to quantify you as scum.
Where?
And if you know all that, why do you still claim "you're only going to catch stupid scum in a nameclaim"?
Unless you have a good reason for a mass nameclaim, which I didn't see when I skimmed your posts. Or is your logic just that your vague roleclaim could use names?
Loaded question ahoy!
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:46 am
by McStab
By pushing for a mass name claim, presumably those who push harder against it would be the ones with PRs. It's not as obvious as asking someone to claim (like MattP is to you) but obviously VTs won't care about giving names up.
As for why it would only catch stupid scum in a nameclaim, DCL explained exactly why. It's History. Any scum with a brain can comeup with a good name claim, and chances are they won't overlap with any town names.
It may be an aggressive question, but the point still holds that that IS your logic up until now. Dodging the question ahoy?
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:55 am
by IceGuy
↑McStab wrote:By pushing for a mass name claim, presumably those who push harder against it would be the ones with PRs. It's not as obvious as asking someone to claim (like MattP is to you) but obviously VTs won't care about giving names up.
Why do you think VTs wouldn't care about claiming names?
As for why it would only catch stupid scum in a nameclaim, DCL explained exactly why. It's History. Any scum with a brain can comeup with a good name claim, and chances are they won't overlap with any town names.
It may be an aggressive question, but the point still holds that that IS your logic up until now. Dodging the question ahoy?
No, it's just that you either pretend not to understand or you really don't understand.
When I ask for a mass name claim and softclaim a PR, it means I'm looking to use the information gathered in the mass name claim for my PR. This has nothing to do with catching scum by counterclaims.
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:34 am
by DCLXVI
↑IceGuy wrote:When I ask for a mass name claim and softclaim a PR, it means I'm looking to use the information gathered in the mass name claim for my PR.
and why the hell would town claim to have a PR day one? Care to explain that one ICE?
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:43 am
by DCLXVI
↑McStab wrote:I see too many townreads as strange, at this stage of the game. Townvibes may emerge Day One, but as a member of the uninformed majority, I frequently get scumvibes from more players than I do townvibes. With no flips and no reference point to go off, I personally have a sense of paranoia Day One, and so I'm still somewhat concerned about the amount of townreads he has at this stage of the game. That being said, his play hasn't been particularly scummy, but his large amount of town and null reads really stuck out to me.
Who is this paragraph directed at?
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:44 am
by IceGuy
↑DCLXVI wrote:
and why the hell would town claim to have a PR day one? Care to explain that one ICE?
↑MattP wrote:You're being overly aggressive in the push on him
pot, kettle, black
Difference is that I want a question answered and am pushing him for that answer. You're pushing him for the sake of pushing with no apparent direction to it.
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:13 am
by DCLXVI
↑DCLXVI wrote:and why the hell would town claim to have a PR day one? Care to explain that one ICE?
No, I am also pushing him for an answer to a question. Your being a bit hypocritical matt.
I think it is completely valid point that I am pushing at.
He claimed because there was pressure on him when he requested a massclaim, your question tries to incriminate him for that decision, your tunnel-vision on IceGuy this entire game sucks and it just looks like you're nervous to direct your scumreads in too many places
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:24 am
by DCLXVI
↑MattP wrote:your tunnel-vision on IceGuy this entire game sucks and it just looks like you're nervous to direct your scumreads in too many places
....and you weren't having tunnel vision on earlier?
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:25 am
by DCLXVI
Um read through my iso, I've been interacting with almost everyone, I certainly have not had "tunnel vision" on any one person.
As I said, it's always a benefit-risk decision. Always. In every single game something like this happens.
Giving more information would mean fullclaiming.
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:52 am
by DCLXVI
OK, I get that you are saying it is a benefit risk decision.
The risk is obvious, the fact that you have claimed being a pr means you will be dead or role blocked tomorrow, I would be shocked if neither of those things happened.
I just can't see anything that could offset that risk.
What possible benefit could counter out that risk?
The answer is none,
which is why I just can't see you as town right now.