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Btw I didn't state all of the restrictions I had for nuke launching because to do so would mean scum can just be invulnerable to my nukes simply by not launching. I didn't want this to occur because scum don't need to launch nukes to win as we're kinda already losing the war.
I can fire nukes at people who've either launched nukes at anyone OR have voted me sometime during the day.
I have every reason to not state fully the restrictions regarding my nukes, me telling you all how my nukes work would amount to me screwing the town over since the scum can just avoid my nukes by not firing and not voting for me. This game isn't as clear cut as LYING=SCUM, the very fact that Lee is trying to make it sound like it is as clear cut as LYING=SCUM makes me VERY SUSPICIOUS of him, either this is incredibly shoddy play(which I don't see coming from Lee) or he's snowing us.
Don't trigger atomic warfare lee? haha you're a funny man, one second ago it was we'll all go down and screw the scum over, and now it's RAFFLES DONT PRESS THE FREAKING button.
Pretty consistent there enh?
Read my posts people, I have done EVERYTHING I could possibly have thought of for this town. It would be a real shame to lynch me. In fact I challenge the people voting me to give me one post I've made that has not been for the purpose of trying to win this game for the town.
And honestly, HOW THE HECK CAN IT HURT TO LAUNCH A FAKE NUKE TO EXTEND DEADLINE TO SEE IF THE RAFFLES GUY I JUST PUT A NUKE IN IS SCUM OR NOT POSSIBLY HURT THE TOWN?
I'm only asking you, BEGGING you to make the MOST INFORMED DECISION POSSIBLE!!!
CAN IT REALLY HURT TO MAKE A MORE INFORMED DECISION THAN A LESS INFORMED ONE? DOES INFORMATION HURT THE TOWN OR THE SCUM??
I think I have every right to request that you all look at what I've done before you toss me to the hangman, it is gross negiligence on your part if you choose to ignore me.
I can fire nukes at people who've either launched nukes at anyone OR have voted me sometime during the day.
I have every reason to not state fully the restrictions regarding my nukes, me telling you all how my nukes work would amount to me screwing the town over since the scum can just avoid my nukes by not firing and not voting for me. This game isn't as clear cut as LYING=SCUM, the very fact that Lee is trying to make it sound like it is as clear cut as LYING=SCUM makes me VERY SUSPICIOUS of him, either this is incredibly shoddy play(which I don't see coming from Lee) or he's snowing us.
Don't trigger atomic warfare lee? haha you're a funny man, one second ago it was we'll all go down and screw the scum over, and now it's RAFFLES DONT PRESS THE FREAKING button.
Pretty consistent there enh?
Read my posts people, I have done EVERYTHING I could possibly have thought of for this town. It would be a real shame to lynch me. In fact I challenge the people voting me to give me one post I've made that has not been for the purpose of trying to win this game for the town.
And honestly, HOW THE HECK CAN IT HURT TO LAUNCH A FAKE NUKE TO EXTEND DEADLINE TO SEE IF THE RAFFLES GUY I JUST PUT A NUKE IN IS SCUM OR NOT POSSIBLY HURT THE TOWN?
I'm only asking you, BEGGING you to make the MOST INFORMED DECISION POSSIBLE!!!
CAN IT REALLY HURT TO MAKE A MORE INFORMED DECISION THAN A LESS INFORMED ONE? DOES INFORMATION HURT THE TOWN OR THE SCUM??
I think I have every right to request that you all look at what I've done before you toss me to the hangman, it is gross negiligence on your part if you choose to ignore me.
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It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
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"Please refrain from diverting our sleuths out there Pooky."
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I've decided, read over Lee's last posts, he's scum with Raffles somebody put a nuke in him.
I wouldn't be asking this if I was scum, scum is pretty damn close to winning this game, the winter count is at 4 which for all we know is game over, I don't think scum would be asking to put 5 down.
Here's what I want the town to agree to do.
Have 1 of the scum confess, we're already way behind they can afford it.
If we get no confessions by 6 hours before my ICBM hits, we fire every last town nuke we can into the air and take the whole ship down.
They can either help us avert winter or let us take their asses down with us.
I know it's a drastic plan but I think it's our best option at this point.
Lee is scum, read his last couple of posts, blind unthinking demagoguery at its best.
I wouldn't be asking this if I was scum, scum is pretty damn close to winning this game, the winter count is at 4 which for all we know is game over, I don't think scum would be asking to put 5 down.
Here's what I want the town to agree to do.
Have 1 of the scum confess, we're already way behind they can afford it.
If we get no confessions by 6 hours before my ICBM hits, we fire every last town nuke we can into the air and take the whole ship down.
They can either help us avert winter or let us take their asses down with us.
I know it's a drastic plan but I think it's our best option at this point.
Lee is scum, read his last couple of posts, blind unthinking demagoguery at its best.
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That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
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That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
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"Please refrain from diverting our sleuths out there Pooky."
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That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
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That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
-Norwee
"Please refrain from diverting our sleuths out there Pooky."
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And for reasoning on this, check out Lee's response when I threaten to nuke him:
If Lee and Raffles are both protown, WHY DOES LEE GIVE DIFFERENT INSTRUCTIONS TO RAFFLES THAN WHAT HE SAYS HE WOULD DO HIMSELF?
This is a HUGE inconsistency, like MINDBLOWINGLY LARGE. Lee wanted me to believe when he made that statement that he was town, his point was that since he's willing to blow us all to hell, he can't be scum because scum is WAY WAY ahead at this point. HOW THE HELL CAN HE THEN GO AND TELL RAFFLES TO NOT FIRE BACK IF HE BELIEVES RAFFLES IS PROTOWN? If RAFFLES IS PROTOWN AND GETS BLOWN UP BY ME, WE ARE JUST AS FAR BACK AS IF LEE IS PROTOWN AND IS BLOWN UP BY ME.
This inconsistency is attributable to only one thing possible in my opinion, Lee is actually scum, he is actually ahead, he doesn't mind if we blow each other to hell.
Here's Lee's instructions to Raffles who's actually being nuked:LML wrote: #3) Go ahead and nuke me. I'll send one RIGHT BACK. If you kill me, you'd be killing a townie, and I'd rather EVERYONE lose rather than JUST the town lose.
Now Lee says that I am scum, by extension, Raffles then is protown.LML wrote:Raffles. Stay the course. I hope you're unaffected. DO NOT TRIGGER ATOMIC WARFARE HERE.
If Lee and Raffles are both protown, WHY DOES LEE GIVE DIFFERENT INSTRUCTIONS TO RAFFLES THAN WHAT HE SAYS HE WOULD DO HIMSELF?
This is a HUGE inconsistency, like MINDBLOWINGLY LARGE. Lee wanted me to believe when he made that statement that he was town, his point was that since he's willing to blow us all to hell, he can't be scum because scum is WAY WAY ahead at this point. HOW THE HELL CAN HE THEN GO AND TELL RAFFLES TO NOT FIRE BACK IF HE BELIEVES RAFFLES IS PROTOWN? If RAFFLES IS PROTOWN AND GETS BLOWN UP BY ME, WE ARE JUST AS FAR BACK AS IF LEE IS PROTOWN AND IS BLOWN UP BY ME.
This inconsistency is attributable to only one thing possible in my opinion, Lee is actually scum, he is actually ahead, he doesn't mind if we blow each other to hell.
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It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
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That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
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Oh and Lee, if you want to talk bloody game theory, how about this,
Plan A:
Lee: XXX, claim or I nuke you and here's why i suspect you, List:Reasons
XXX:Claims
Lee: I don't believe you, fire nuke.
instead of
Lee: Fires nuke WOOOSH!
XXX: sigh wtfbbq
Lee(24 hours later): claim now even though it's irrelevant and I'm just doing this to convince you not to fire back with bullshit game theory
XXX:Claims
Lee:sucks for you!
or how about
Plan B:
Everyone in town: We agree that in the event that there are no confessions from rogue states within 6 hours of the deadline that we will launch all nuclear weapons available because 1)We are way fucking behind in this game and going to lose anyway in a day 2)we'd rather take you with us than just lose by ourselves, misery loves company. 3)we're really not kidding and we just want to have a shot at the gae that we kinda fucked up for no reason.
Bad Guys(thinking): hmm, if we ignore them, they take every1 down, we have no shot of winning, but if we have one of us confess, we'd have a better shot at winning than if they blew the world to hell and triggered nuclear winter, we're already at four, how much further can we go? we better confess.
THAT IS GAME THEORY
THAT IS USEFUL GAME THEORY
THAT IS GAME THEORY THAT CAN HELP THE TOWN.
THE GAME THEORY YOU PULLED OUT OF YOUR !@# RIGHT BEFORE YOUR NUKE HIT Y DOESN'T HELP US BECAUSE FINDING OUT HIS ROLE 12 HOURS BEFORE THE MOD WAS GOING TO TELL US ANYWAY DOESNT HELP US MAKE A MORE INFORMED !@#$ING DECISION, ALL IT DOES IS TRY TO CONVINCE HIM THAT YOU ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THE TOWN AND NOT FIRE RIGHT BACK AT YOU.
God,
I really !@#$ing hate putting tons and tons of thought and effort into a game to help the town win. because it seems inevitably that the town will either decide to be too lazy to read what the hell i've written or what I've written will fly over their heads or maybe they will decide I am just a psychotic silly little man who must be strung up and it will all be for nothing.
Did you people read what I've threatened to do in this game?
YOU ARE STRINGING UP THE PERSON WHO THREATENED TO BLOW UP THE ENTIRE WORLD BY FIRING EIGHT NUCLEAR MISSILES IN THE FIRST WEEK OF THIS GAME, HE WAS TRYING TO DO THIS TO GET THE SCUM TO CONFESS, BUT NO!!! OBVIOUSLY IT WAS AN ELABORATE PLOY SINCE HE SOMEHOW PSYCHICALLY KNEW THAT THE NUCLEAR WEAPON HEADING FOR HIM WAS A DUD!!!
THROUGH A COMPLETELY AMAZING PSYCHIC READING OF THE MODERATOR'S MIND!!!!
Q:Why would a scumbag claim America?
Either A) He is America, and America is scum(wildly !@#$ING STUPID IDEA)
or B) He isn't America, America was provided as a safeclaim to the scum and HE DECIDED TO USE IT WHEN A NUCLEAR MISSILE WAS IN ROUTE TO BLOW HIM OFF THE FACE OF THE PLANET, THATS RIGHT POOKYSCUM IN HIS INFINITE WISDOM DECIDED TO USE THE MAFIATEAM'S BEST SAFECLAIM(AMERICA) WHEN THERE WAS A ICBM HEADED TO HIM THAT HE DIDNT KNOW WAS ARMED OR NOT, POOKY IS SUCH AN AMAZINGLY BALLSY PLAYER THAT HE DECIDED TO GAMBLE THE SCUMTEAM'S BEST !@#$ING SAFECLAIM ON THE GUESS THAT NAR'S ICBM WAS NOT ARMED!!!
Basically I'm just saying that the logical leap you would have to take to decide that I AM SCUM, is the equivalent of believing that you can discover cold fusion in your basement with half a refrigerator and some gatorade.
Which by all means if you do believe, you should be down there trying to make some amazing engine.
Oh right, but this information(WHICH YOU ALL HAD BEFORE LEE STARTED PULLING WOOL OVER YOUR EYES) is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT COMPARED TO THE FACT THAT I LEFT OUT THAT I COULD NUKE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR ME.
EVEN THOUGH THERE IS A PERFECTLY VALID REASON FOR ME TO NOT STATE THAT FACT!!!
The case against me is complete crap and the reasons why I am not scum are so INCREDIBLY clear.
I feel right now in my guts a deep hatred for ignorance and stupidity and lack of due diligence.
and all I am asking for here guys, is that you check if Raffles is scum first before you decide to lynch me.
Yes I'm ranting but it's kind of annoying for me when it's so bloody clear I'm not scum and the majority of you are voting me.
Like unbelievable.
I am pretty much confirmed town, the only way I can be more confirmed is if the mod came out and said it or if we had a daycop come out and say it and then be struck down by a thunderbolt from God that revealed his role.
Plan A:
Lee: XXX, claim or I nuke you and here's why i suspect you, List:Reasons
XXX:Claims
Lee: I don't believe you, fire nuke.
instead of
Lee: Fires nuke WOOOSH!
XXX: sigh wtfbbq
Lee(24 hours later): claim now even though it's irrelevant and I'm just doing this to convince you not to fire back with bullshit game theory
XXX:Claims
Lee:sucks for you!
or how about
Plan B:
Everyone in town: We agree that in the event that there are no confessions from rogue states within 6 hours of the deadline that we will launch all nuclear weapons available because 1)We are way fucking behind in this game and going to lose anyway in a day 2)we'd rather take you with us than just lose by ourselves, misery loves company. 3)we're really not kidding and we just want to have a shot at the gae that we kinda fucked up for no reason.
Bad Guys(thinking): hmm, if we ignore them, they take every1 down, we have no shot of winning, but if we have one of us confess, we'd have a better shot at winning than if they blew the world to hell and triggered nuclear winter, we're already at four, how much further can we go? we better confess.
THAT IS GAME THEORY
THAT IS USEFUL GAME THEORY
THAT IS GAME THEORY THAT CAN HELP THE TOWN.
THE GAME THEORY YOU PULLED OUT OF YOUR !@# RIGHT BEFORE YOUR NUKE HIT Y DOESN'T HELP US BECAUSE FINDING OUT HIS ROLE 12 HOURS BEFORE THE MOD WAS GOING TO TELL US ANYWAY DOESNT HELP US MAKE A MORE INFORMED !@#$ING DECISION, ALL IT DOES IS TRY TO CONVINCE HIM THAT YOU ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THE TOWN AND NOT FIRE RIGHT BACK AT YOU.
God,
I really !@#$ing hate putting tons and tons of thought and effort into a game to help the town win. because it seems inevitably that the town will either decide to be too lazy to read what the hell i've written or what I've written will fly over their heads or maybe they will decide I am just a psychotic silly little man who must be strung up and it will all be for nothing.
Did you people read what I've threatened to do in this game?
YOU ARE STRINGING UP THE PERSON WHO THREATENED TO BLOW UP THE ENTIRE WORLD BY FIRING EIGHT NUCLEAR MISSILES IN THE FIRST WEEK OF THIS GAME, HE WAS TRYING TO DO THIS TO GET THE SCUM TO CONFESS, BUT NO!!! OBVIOUSLY IT WAS AN ELABORATE PLOY SINCE HE SOMEHOW PSYCHICALLY KNEW THAT THE NUCLEAR WEAPON HEADING FOR HIM WAS A DUD!!!
THROUGH A COMPLETELY AMAZING PSYCHIC READING OF THE MODERATOR'S MIND!!!!
Q:Why would a scumbag claim America?
Either A) He is America, and America is scum(wildly !@#$ING STUPID IDEA)
or B) He isn't America, America was provided as a safeclaim to the scum and HE DECIDED TO USE IT WHEN A NUCLEAR MISSILE WAS IN ROUTE TO BLOW HIM OFF THE FACE OF THE PLANET, THATS RIGHT POOKYSCUM IN HIS INFINITE WISDOM DECIDED TO USE THE MAFIATEAM'S BEST SAFECLAIM(AMERICA) WHEN THERE WAS A ICBM HEADED TO HIM THAT HE DIDNT KNOW WAS ARMED OR NOT, POOKY IS SUCH AN AMAZINGLY BALLSY PLAYER THAT HE DECIDED TO GAMBLE THE SCUMTEAM'S BEST !@#$ING SAFECLAIM ON THE GUESS THAT NAR'S ICBM WAS NOT ARMED!!!
Basically I'm just saying that the logical leap you would have to take to decide that I AM SCUM, is the equivalent of believing that you can discover cold fusion in your basement with half a refrigerator and some gatorade.
Which by all means if you do believe, you should be down there trying to make some amazing engine.
Oh right, but this information(WHICH YOU ALL HAD BEFORE LEE STARTED PULLING WOOL OVER YOUR EYES) is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT COMPARED TO THE FACT THAT I LEFT OUT THAT I COULD NUKE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR ME.
EVEN THOUGH THERE IS A PERFECTLY VALID REASON FOR ME TO NOT STATE THAT FACT!!!
The case against me is complete crap and the reasons why I am not scum are so INCREDIBLY clear.
I feel right now in my guts a deep hatred for ignorance and stupidity and lack of due diligence.
and all I am asking for here guys, is that you check if Raffles is scum first before you decide to lynch me.
Yes I'm ranting but it's kind of annoying for me when it's so bloody clear I'm not scum and the majority of you are voting me.
Like unbelievable.
I am pretty much confirmed town, the only way I can be more confirmed is if the mod came out and said it or if we had a daycop come out and say it and then be struck down by a thunderbolt from God that revealed his role.
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"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
-Norwee
"Please refrain from diverting our sleuths out there Pooky."
~Maple
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
-Norwee
"Please refrain from diverting our sleuths out there Pooky."
~Maple
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Oh and I have another small request.
I hope it doesn't trouble you all too much since it seems you will be stringing me up today.
As I've pointed, I've claimed America and not been counterclaimed or put a nuke in my ass by any Americas.
So really either,
A) I am America and America is scum in this game
or
B) America isn't in the game and is provided as a safeclaim to the scum. Pooky decided to use the best safeclaim the scum were given on the first day even as a nuclear warhead was headed toward him and he was under no pressure to claim, he had no way of knowing if the nuke was armed and he decided to just throw away the scum's best safeclaim even though he could've waited to see if the nuke would kill him and then claim.
or
C) America is an amazingly important role that is in the vital interests of the town that scum do not find her, in fact if scum were to find her, it would result in mindblowing losses for the town that already exceed the casaulties we've suffered so far, in fact these mindblowing losses mean that America's best play here is to lay low, heck in fact Yosa designed an imbalanced game since the town would suffer a HUGE BLOW if America were to be found out.
You have to believe A, B or C to lynch me unless you are scum.
I simply ask you to choose A or B or C.
Heck you can even choose all three if you want.
Or you could make up your own reason that seems valid and put it down.
If you don't choose A,B or C or a combination of them or your own reason, I'm going to assume that you are too lazy to think of something and I would be fairly disappoitned in you and it might possibly bring great shame to your reputation(ok that's unlikely).
I hope it doesn't trouble you all too much since it seems you will be stringing me up today.
As I've pointed, I've claimed America and not been counterclaimed or put a nuke in my ass by any Americas.
So really either,
A) I am America and America is scum in this game
or
B) America isn't in the game and is provided as a safeclaim to the scum. Pooky decided to use the best safeclaim the scum were given on the first day even as a nuclear warhead was headed toward him and he was under no pressure to claim, he had no way of knowing if the nuke was armed and he decided to just throw away the scum's best safeclaim even though he could've waited to see if the nuke would kill him and then claim.
or
C) America is an amazingly important role that is in the vital interests of the town that scum do not find her, in fact if scum were to find her, it would result in mindblowing losses for the town that already exceed the casaulties we've suffered so far, in fact these mindblowing losses mean that America's best play here is to lay low, heck in fact Yosa designed an imbalanced game since the town would suffer a HUGE BLOW if America were to be found out.
You have to believe A, B or C to lynch me unless you are scum.
I simply ask you to choose A or B or C.
Heck you can even choose all three if you want.
Or you could make up your own reason that seems valid and put it down.
If you don't choose A,B or C or a combination of them or your own reason, I'm going to assume that you are too lazy to think of something and I would be fairly disappoitned in you and it might possibly bring great shame to your reputation(ok that's unlikely).
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That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
-Norwee
"Please refrain from diverting our sleuths out there Pooky."
~Maple
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
-Norwee
"Please refrain from diverting our sleuths out there Pooky."
~Maple
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Oh and my deepest apologies if the above posts offended anyone in particular.
I was incredibly upset.
I'll try to care less about my games in the future.
Thank you for understanding,
Love,
Pooks
I was incredibly upset.
I'll try to care less about my games in the future.
Thank you for understanding,
Love,
Pooks
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That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
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"Please refrain from diverting our sleuths out there Pooky."
~Maple
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
-Norwee
"Please refrain from diverting our sleuths out there Pooky."
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this isn't inconsistent. According to your roleclaim, you could nuke people that had already nuked, and Lee had fired on Y. However, Raffles hadn't fired yet, so your nuke fired at Raffles should've been a fake, according to your claim.PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:And for reasoning on this, check out Lee's response when I threaten to nuke him:
Here's Lee's instructions to Raffles who's actually being nuked:LML wrote: #3) Go ahead and nuke me. I'll send one RIGHT BACK. If you kill me, you'd be killing a townie, and I'd rather EVERYONE lose rather than JUST the town lose.Now Lee says that I am scum, by extension, Raffles then is protown.LML wrote:Raffles. Stay the course. I hope you're unaffected. DO NOT TRIGGER ATOMIC WARFARE HERE.
If Lee and Raffles are both protown, WHY DOES LEE GIVE DIFFERENT INSTRUCTIONS TO RAFFLES THAN WHAT HE SAYS HE WOULD DO HIMSELF?
This is a HUGE inconsistency, like MINDBLOWINGLY LARGE. Lee wanted me to believe when he made that statement that he was town, his point was that since he's willing to blow us all to hell, he can't be scum because scum is WAY WAY ahead at this point. HOW THE HELL CAN HE THEN GO AND TELL RAFFLES TO NOT FIRE BACK IF HE BELIEVES RAFFLES IS PROTOWN? If RAFFLES IS PROTOWN AND GETS BLOWN UP BY ME, WE ARE JUST AS FAR BACK AS IF LEE IS PROTOWN AND IS BLOWN UP BY ME.
This inconsistency is attributable to only one thing possible in my opinion, Lee is actually scum, he is actually ahead, he doesn't mind if we blow each other to hell.
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Pass.Mastermind of Sin wrote:On the other hand, the last time I saw Pooky this pissed of was Jack of All Trades mafia, where he is dead and confirmed protown.
He's known to have been caught in a lie.
Lynch ALL liars. Pay no attention to his plea. Away until Monday.
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BS! That makes no sense. It seems to me that you are making it up so you look more useful. I find it hard to see how the Mod would keep track of the role if it worked like that. It just doesnt make sense. Also, it would make sense for you to claim that originally, as it might have saved you from getting so many votes. My vote stands.
oh the benefit of hindsight :p
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Also, i gotta say: LML, what were you thinking? if you knew the nuke would hit, why not get someone to launch a dud? that would extend the deadline, and we'd have 1 more player.PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Btw I didn't state all of the restrictions I had for nuke launching because to do so would mean scum can just be invulnerable to my nukes simply by not launching. I didn't want this to occur because scum don't need to launch nukes to win as we're kinda already losing the war.
I can fire nukes at people who've either launched nukes at anyone OR have voted me sometime during the day.
I have every reason to not state fully the restrictions regarding my nukes, me telling you all how my nukes work would amount to me screwing the town over since the scum can just avoid my nukes by not firing and not voting for me. This game isn't as clear cut as LYING=SCUM, the very fact that Lee is trying to make it sound like it is as clear cut as LYING=SCUM makes me VERY SUSPICIOUS of him, either this is incredibly shoddy play(which I don't see coming from Lee) or he's snowing us.
oh the benefit of hindsight :p
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Pooky that is crap aswell. i admit that its not looking good, but the game is far from over. we still have a majority over the scum, and if we get our acts together and lynch, we can still win. There is very little chance that any scumbag will be stupid enough to confess, knowing that they would probably lose the game aswell.
You see, thats what i think you are doing now. You think: I'm going down, and my scumbuddies are all under lots of suspicion. I really dont think we have a good chance of winning this in the long run, so lets blow the wholeplanet up.
Or, even better, you're actually trying to give cover for a bombardment of nukings BY the scum. Im assuming that the scum in this game have alot of nukes between them, and i wouldnt be surprised if they wanted to rid themselves of some townies quickly, to give them a majority vote.
I mean, think about it. Why WOULDNT America be scum, any more than the other countries that have been claimed thus far. I doubt we will get claims like Iraq or Korea, so its quite possible that a less suspicious country is the actual scum. Alternatively, yes it could be a safeclaim. I see your point about it being unlikely, but you seriously overestimate how good a claim America is.
Another point i should mention. The only time i have seen Pooky-scum, was when me and him were scumbuddies in a game on Marathon Day. I was already dead, but he came up with a rather complicated scheme, in order for us to secure a draw out of it. This is the one thing i look for in Pookys play, that i can regard as a scumtell. in the post quoted below, he has done it.
I think we have our first scum guys
You see, thats what i think you are doing now. You think: I'm going down, and my scumbuddies are all under lots of suspicion. I really dont think we have a good chance of winning this in the long run, so lets blow the wholeplanet up.
Or, even better, you're actually trying to give cover for a bombardment of nukings BY the scum. Im assuming that the scum in this game have alot of nukes between them, and i wouldnt be surprised if they wanted to rid themselves of some townies quickly, to give them a majority vote.
I mean, think about it. Why WOULDNT America be scum, any more than the other countries that have been claimed thus far. I doubt we will get claims like Iraq or Korea, so its quite possible that a less suspicious country is the actual scum. Alternatively, yes it could be a safeclaim. I see your point about it being unlikely, but you seriously overestimate how good a claim America is.
Another point i should mention. The only time i have seen Pooky-scum, was when me and him were scumbuddies in a game on Marathon Day. I was already dead, but he came up with a rather complicated scheme, in order for us to secure a draw out of it. This is the one thing i look for in Pookys play, that i can regard as a scumtell. in the post quoted below, he has done it.
I think we have our first scum guys
PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
Plan B:
Everyone in town: We agree that in the event that there are no confessions from rogue states within 6 hours of the deadline that we will launch all nuclear weapons available because 1)We are way fucking behind in this game and going to lose anyway in a day 2)we'd rather take you with us than just lose by ourselves, misery loves company. 3)we're really not kidding and we just want to have a shot at the gae that we kinda fucked up for no reason.
Bad Guys(thinking): hmm, if we ignore them, they take every1 down, we have no shot of winning, but if we have one of us confess, we'd have a better shot at winning than if they blew the world to hell and triggered nuclear winter, we're already at four, how much further can we go? we better confess.
THAT IS GAME THEORY
THAT IS USEFUL GAME THEORY
THAT IS GAME THEORY THAT CAN HELP THE TOWN.
THE GAME THEORY YOU PULLED OUT OF YOUR !@# RIGHT BEFORE YOUR NUKE HIT Y DOESN'T HELP US BECAUSE FINDING OUT HIS ROLE 12 HOURS BEFORE THE MOD WAS GOING TO TELL US ANYWAY DOESNT HELP US MAKE A MORE INFORMED !@#$ING DECISION, ALL IT DOES IS TRY TO CONVINCE HIM THAT YOU ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THE TOWN AND NOT FIRE RIGHT BACK AT YOU.
God,
I really !@#$ing hate putting tons and tons of thought and effort into a game to help the town win. because it seems inevitably that the town will either decide to be too lazy to read what the hell i've written or what I've written will fly over their heads or maybe they will decide I am just a psychotic silly little man who must be strung up and it will all be for nothing.
Did you people read what I've threatened to do in this game?
YOU ARE STRINGING UP THE PERSON WHO THREATENED TO BLOW UP THE ENTIRE WORLD BY FIRING EIGHT NUCLEAR MISSILES IN THE FIRST WEEK OF THIS GAME, HE WAS TRYING TO DO THIS TO GET THE SCUM TO CONFESS, BUT NO!!! OBVIOUSLY IT WAS AN ELABORATE PLOY SINCE HE SOMEHOW PSYCHICALLY KNEW THAT THE NUCLEAR WEAPON HEADING FOR HIM WAS A DUD!!!
THROUGH A COMPLETELY AMAZING PSYCHIC READING OF THE MODERATOR'S MIND!!!!
Q:Why would a scumbag claim America?
Either A) He is America, and America is scum(wildly !@#$ING STUPID IDEA)
or B) He isn't America, America was provided as a safeclaim to the scum and HE DECIDED TO USE IT WHEN A NUCLEAR MISSILE WAS IN ROUTE TO BLOW HIM OFF THE FACE OF THE PLANET, THATS RIGHT POOKYSCUM IN HIS INFINITE WISDOM DECIDED TO USE THE MAFIATEAM'S BEST SAFECLAIM(AMERICA) WHEN THERE WAS A ICBM HEADED TO HIM THAT HE DIDNT KNOW WAS ARMED OR NOT, POOKY IS SUCH AN AMAZINGLY BALLSY PLAYER THAT HE DECIDED TO GAMBLE THE SCUMTEAM'S BEST !@#$ING SAFECLAIM ON THE GUESS THAT NAR'S ICBM WAS NOT ARMED!!!
Basically I'm just saying that the logical leap you would have to take to decide that I AM SCUM, is the equivalent of believing that you can discover cold fusion in your basement with half a refrigerator and some gatorade.
Which by all means if you do believe, you should be down there trying to make some amazing engine.
Oh right, but this information(WHICH YOU ALL HAD BEFORE LEE STARTED PULLING WOOL OVER YOUR EYES) is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT COMPARED TO THE FACT THAT I LEFT OUT THAT I COULD NUKE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR ME.
EVEN THOUGH THERE IS A PERFECTLY VALID REASON FOR ME TO NOT STATE THAT FACT!!!
The case against me is complete crap and the reasons why I am not scum are so INCREDIBLY clear.
I feel right now in my guts a deep hatred for ignorance and stupidity and lack of due diligence.
and all I am asking for here guys, is that you check if Raffles is scum first before you decide to lynch me.
Yes I'm ranting but it's kind of annoying for me when it's so bloody clear I'm not scum and the majority of you are voting me.
Like unbelievable.
I am pretty much confirmed town, the only way I can be more confirmed is if the mod came out and said it or if we had a daycop come out and say it and then be struck down by a thunderbolt from God that revealed his role.
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Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%
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Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
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if a scumbag confesses, we're playing probly 2 versus 5 after we lynch them.
IF a scumbag doesnt confess, we're playing everybody loses since winter hits.
I think the scum have a better shot at winning a 2-5 than a winter hitting.
Why have you not answered my question about what you believe of my role?
A B or C?(or make up your own reason on this)
Lynch all liars is bullshit Lee and you know it, and I didn't even lie about my role, I just left out one part because it is tactically advantageous for me(and the town in extension) for the scum not to know exactly what I need to fire a nuclear weapon.
Example in point:
7 players left, 1 innocent votes me for some godawful reason, scum pile on expecting not to get nuked since they think i can only fire on someone who's fired before, I get a chance to fire a nuke and take one of them down, saving us from a mislynch AND more or less proving my innocence along the way and exposing the scum.
Giving away my targetting restriction is such an incredibly boneheaded move that it completely cripples me in terms of who I can or can't nuke.
Lee is SO full of crap right now. Either he is playing INCREDIBLY poorly or he's scum.(I know because HE DOESNT EVEN FOLLOd W Lynch-all-liars himself, he's KNOWN to lie as protown if it'll help the town, he is snowing you all so bad right now it's ridiculous)
I'm so regretting firing at Raffles instead of Lee right now.
Lynch him tommorrow or nuke him, I know I'm right here.
America as a rogue state, god MoS, I so want to strangle you right now.
IF a scumbag doesnt confess, we're playing everybody loses since winter hits.
I think the scum have a better shot at winning a 2-5 than a winter hitting.
Why have you not answered my question about what you believe of my role?
A B or C?(or make up your own reason on this)
Lynch all liars is bullshit Lee and you know it, and I didn't even lie about my role, I just left out one part because it is tactically advantageous for me(and the town in extension) for the scum not to know exactly what I need to fire a nuclear weapon.
Example in point:
7 players left, 1 innocent votes me for some godawful reason, scum pile on expecting not to get nuked since they think i can only fire on someone who's fired before, I get a chance to fire a nuke and take one of them down, saving us from a mislynch AND more or less proving my innocence along the way and exposing the scum.
Giving away my targetting restriction is such an incredibly boneheaded move that it completely cripples me in terms of who I can or can't nuke.
Lee is SO full of crap right now. Either he is playing INCREDIBLY poorly or he's scum.(I know because HE DOESNT EVEN FOLLOd W Lynch-all-liars himself, he's KNOWN to lie as protown if it'll help the town, he is snowing you all so bad right now it's ridiculous)
I'm so regretting firing at Raffles instead of Lee right now.
Lynch him tommorrow or nuke him, I know I'm right here.
America as a rogue state, god MoS, I so want to strangle you right now.
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Now you've stated that your votes on me, MoS/BM that you are voting for me because you believe A) That America is scum in this game.Our Lovely Moderator wrote: A handful of rogue states, armed now with nuclear weapons, are trying to overturn the international order and reshape the world in their image. The world community as a whole, also armed with nuclear weapons, will try to maintain the status quo.
I submit to you 2 objections, by the cited game conditions stated by our moderator, why would America be trying to overturn the International Order? Does that even make sense? Who would America be allied with in this attempt to overturn the international order?(everyone already hates us) our closest buddy(england) is already shown to be a dead protown player, heck can you even think of two plausible nuclear weapon holding countries that would ally with America to overturn the world order? Heck WHY THE HELL WOULD AMERICA TRY TO OVERTURN THE WORLD ORDER, it has the LARGEST GDP BY FAR, it has the STRONGEST MILITARY FORCE, it is INCREDIBLY DEPENDENT ON FOREIGN TRADE SINCE IT BLOODY IMPORTS ALMOST HALF OF ITS OIL.
DID I MENTION AMERICA IS RICH?!?!? WE ARE THE WEALTHIEST COUNTRY IN THE PLANET BY FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR.
What REASON would Yosa have for labelling America as a "rogue state that wants to overturn the world order"?
Part 2 of my objections lies in the restrictions I have for my nukes, I can't fire a nuke at anyone who has either not voted for me or not fired a nuclear weapon, basically I can't randomly blow people up. I already proved this since I attempted to fire a nuclear weapon at MoS and it failed so either A)I have no nukes(America has no nukes, honestly why the hell would America have no nukes) or B)I have a restriction as to who I can fire nuclear weapons.(How the hell does a restriction on me firing nuclear weapons make any sense in any way shape or form if I am a ROGUE STATE, the WHOLE POINT OF BEING A ROGUE STATE IS THAT YOU DONT FOLLOW RULES, SO WHY WOULD I HAVE RESTRICTIONS!??)
This is what we call a contradiction, there are two VERY GOOD REASONS for whyt w America is not scum in this game. If you persist in your votes against me without rebuking my reasoning so far as to why your reasoning is faulty, then I will have to consider you as being grossly negiligent towards your duties in this game unless you are scum, in which case I congragulate you for snowing those townies so damn well.
And again, why would you not make a better and more informed decision by firing a fake nuclear missile to extend deadline in order to make a better and more informed decision regarding my fate? Is it honestly that much to ask that someone who has no nukes fires one off to extend deadline so that we can extend the day? What could we possibly lose from making a more informed decision?
The only reason a person with no nukes should not extend deadline right now in my humble opinion is because they are scum and do not want to extend the deadline and make the town make a grevious error in lynching me.
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Hmm Pooky, be honest. Is this nuke armed?
The Flaw in what you say is we have to lynch you on D2, if we decide to follow what you say. Are you suggesting no lynch for the day? (be realistic, LML isn't going to get lynched today)
Now I have 2 questions:
To claim, or not to claim?
To nuke, or not to nuke?
The Flaw in what you say is we have to lynch you on D2, if we decide to follow what you say. Are you suggesting no lynch for the day? (be realistic, LML isn't going to get lynched today)
Now I have 2 questions:
To claim, or not to claim?
To nuke, or not to nuke?
Woof!
I hate how Jack, theo and gameshark are hiding, when we have such a strict deadline pending for so long. Would be pretty ironic if these three were the scum, wouldn't it?
I think we shouldn't try to outguess the mod. If the USA are a Rogue State or not we can't guess. How many Rogue States are there at all? And how would mass claiming be prevented then.
There is no one I can really see as a pro-town player, this is a weird situation. What if there is no scum and it's just the mod trying an experiment on us?
I think we shouldn't try to outguess the mod. If the USA are a Rogue State or not we can't guess. How many Rogue States are there at all? And how would mass claiming be prevented then.
Could be a Gambit and you reasoning that it wouldn't make sense to fire an armed nuke so early. Not saying that it is too probable, but still.Pooky wrote:B) America isn't in the game and is provided as a safeclaim to the scum. Pooky decided to use the best safeclaim the scum were given on the first day even as a nuclear warhead was headed toward him and he was under no pressure to claim, he had no way of knowing if the nuke was armed and he decided to just throw away the scum's best safeclaim even though he could've waited to see if the nuke would kill him and then claim.
There is no one I can really see as a pro-town player, this is a weird situation. What if there is no scum and it's just the mod trying an experiment on us?
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much as i hate to tell the scum how to play their game, you know as well as I do that mafia will not confess, because should a mafia confess, what happens next? we do exactly the same thing again, with the constant threat of nuclear winter. scum lose either way.
I havent answered your question specifically, because ive alredy told you my views, if you read my comments.
i disagree to some extent about you keeping your role quiet aswell. I mean, if i was in that position, id simply come forward honestly about the role, which would suggest that scum would not vote for me, and i would not be lynched, thus the only way scum could kill me is via NK, which they wouldnt do anyway, if they knew you were powerless, thus you would be virtually invincible, and the rest of the town wouldnt waste their time lynching you.
what does snowing mean?
as for MoS comment about America being a potential rogue state, i think it is possible. i believe someone mentioned earlier in game how America could be construed in that way by foreigners.
im not taking any country for granted as protown.
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@ZF-i hope to God your scenario is wrong. :p
surprisingly it could work, as a sort of test, to see whether the town will nuke itself to bits as a result of paranoia, or whether they will actually stop killing each other.
I havent answered your question specifically, because ive alredy told you my views, if you read my comments.
i disagree to some extent about you keeping your role quiet aswell. I mean, if i was in that position, id simply come forward honestly about the role, which would suggest that scum would not vote for me, and i would not be lynched, thus the only way scum could kill me is via NK, which they wouldnt do anyway, if they knew you were powerless, thus you would be virtually invincible, and the rest of the town wouldnt waste their time lynching you.
what does snowing mean?
as for MoS comment about America being a potential rogue state, i think it is possible. i believe someone mentioned earlier in game how America could be construed in that way by foreigners.
im not taking any country for granted as protown.
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@ZF-i hope to God your scenario is wrong. :p
surprisingly it could work, as a sort of test, to see whether the town will nuke itself to bits as a result of paranoia, or whether they will actually stop killing each other.
PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if a scumbag confesses, we're playing probly 2 versus 5 after we lynch them.
IF a scumbag doesnt confess, we're playing everybody loses since winter hits.
I think the scum have a better shot at winning a 2-5 than a winter hitting.
Why have you not answered my question about what you believe of my role?
A B or C?(or make up your own reason on this)
Lynch all liars is bullshit Lee and you know it, and I didn't even lie about my role, I just left out one part because it is tactically advantageous for me(and the town in extension) for the scum not to know exactly what I need to fire a nuclear weapon.
Example in point:
7 players left, 1 innocent votes me for some godawful reason, scum pile on expecting not to get nuked since they think i can only fire on someone who's fired before, I get a chance to fire a nuke and take one of them down, saving us from a mislynch AND more or less proving my innocence along the way and exposing the scum.
Giving away my targetting restriction is such an incredibly boneheaded move that it completely cripples me in terms of who I can or can't nuke.
Lee is SO full of crap right now. Either he is playing INCREDIBLY poorly or he's scum.(I know because HE DOESNT EVEN FOLLOd W Lynch-all-liars himself, he's KNOWN to lie as protown if it'll help the town, he is snowing you all so bad right now it's ridiculous)
I'm so regretting firing at Raffles instead of Lee right now.
Lynch him tommorrow or nuke him, I know I'm right here.
America as a rogue state, god MoS, I so want to strangle you right now.
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Day-elimmed by majority - 4
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Pooky is wrong. Lynch all liars is a perfectly viable metagame choice. I have always felt that way. See: Circus Mafia Mini. I don't know what forum that is in, but half of my posts contain "Lynch All Liars".
I would have loved someone without a damn nuke to extend the day. It NEEDED to be done. Pooky's reaction to a nule not sent torwards him is ridiculous.
The reason I asked for a Y claim at that point was, and the reason I was nuking him, was that I was under the impression that he was breadcrumbing ISRAEL. I didn't WANT to nuke him now, but I didn't have a choice.
Also, I didn't have a choice wether or not to arm my nuke. I just sent it. We haven't hit night yet, so, just to clarify:
Did Pooky sent a missile over yet to anyone besides Raffles? If he did, Was he killed?
Doh. My ride is here. See you guys monday.
I would have loved someone without a damn nuke to extend the day. It NEEDED to be done. Pooky's reaction to a nule not sent torwards him is ridiculous.
The reason I asked for a Y claim at that point was, and the reason I was nuking him, was that I was under the impression that he was breadcrumbing ISRAEL. I didn't WANT to nuke him now, but I didn't have a choice.
Also, I didn't have a choice wether or not to arm my nuke. I just sent it. We haven't hit night yet, so, just to clarify:
Did Pooky sent a missile over yet to anyone besides Raffles? If he did, Was he killed?
Doh. My ride is here. See you guys monday.
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wtf Lee
did you even read the thread?
did you even read the thread?
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Yes raffles, the nuke is armed, you're going to die.
And to those who think America is possibly a rogue state, would you mind rebuking the two VERY good points I've raised against it instead of going "I don't want to outguess the mod, America could be scum, end of story"
God gave us brains for a reason, use them.
And to those who think America is possibly a rogue state, would you mind rebuking the two VERY good points I've raised against it instead of going "I don't want to outguess the mod, America could be scum, end of story"
God gave us brains for a reason, use them.
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How would mass claiming be prevented?
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HOW MANY COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD ARE CONSIDERED "ROGUE"?
HOW MANY COUNTRIES ARE THERE IN THE WORLD TOTAL?
DO YOU HONESTLY THINK ITS HARD TO FAKECLAIM A COUNTRY?
I will post examples of fakeclaims scum could come up with if they weren't given safeclaims if you want.
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HOW MANY COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD ARE CONSIDERED "ROGUE"?
HOW MANY COUNTRIES ARE THERE IN THE WORLD TOTAL?
DO YOU HONESTLY THINK ITS HARD TO FAKECLAIM A COUNTRY?
I will post examples of fakeclaims scum could come up with if they weren't given safeclaims if you want.
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This is disturbing in so many ways, I propose a plan to try to save the town in a last ditch effort,
and I see people saying stuff like,
"Hey what if there aren't any scum and this is just a psych experiment by Yosa? Whatf all the premises of the game are actually not like a normal 3-9 setup and instead there are no scum? Why don't we stop firing nukes now that we're at a drastic disadvantage and instead let the scum if they exist waltz to a victory"
That is the rationale people are using to debunk my "threaten the scum with nuclear winter to force them into the open"
Ok I understand where your'e coming from, however
either A) You believe there are scum in which case you should adopt my "threaten nuclear winter to get 1 confession" stance
or B) You believe there are no scum in which case WHY THE !@#$ ARE YOU VOTING ME!?!?
THERE IS NO SCENARIO WHICH LYNCHING ME WITHOUT THREATEN THE SCUM WITH NUCLEAR WINTER MAKES SENSE OTHER THAN:
C)Pooky is the only scum in this game, his role is to convince us to nuke each other, he wins if there is nuclear winter, Yosa is completely wanking us
WHICH IS COMPLETE !@#$!@#$ and I recommend you get your head examined if you honestly think this.
How is it in MY interest as SCUM to get the town to threaten to nuclear winter the place?(which is what battlemage is suggesting)
if you adopt my proposed stance of NUclear wintering the place if we dont get a scum confession then 2 things can happen
a)scum confesses and gets lynchified(why the !@#$ would i want this to happen as scum?)
b)scum doesnt confess, we blow the joint to hell, scum loses(why the !@#$ would I want this to happen as scum?)
But BM came up with a reason for b)
it is that
C)I am scum and my scumbuddies are feeling the heat so we are trying to con the town into nuclear wintering the whole place
which doesn't make a lot of sense since it leads to
if I'm scum, then raffles is protown and gets blown to hell, we go to night with 8 alive and 2 scum and when scum kill we are at 2/7 scum which isn't exactly BAD numbers for the scum, in fact it's the normal mini numbers!
But right, according to BM, my scum comrades could possibly be under a lot of heat(even though he has no idea who the hell they are)
and I am working my !@# off trying to get us all to lose in nuclear winter.
this is the most ludicrious game I've played in a while
I'm really really upset again
I'm really sorry for acting like an ass everyone.
It's just that I feel the scum are getting away with poor play because the town is either completely blind or playing like complete crap.
Oh and Lee, are you saying you've never lied as a protown role before and Lynch-all-liars should be blindly applied as a metagame stance?
and I see people saying stuff like,
"Hey what if there aren't any scum and this is just a psych experiment by Yosa? Whatf all the premises of the game are actually not like a normal 3-9 setup and instead there are no scum? Why don't we stop firing nukes now that we're at a drastic disadvantage and instead let the scum if they exist waltz to a victory"
That is the rationale people are using to debunk my "threaten the scum with nuclear winter to force them into the open"
Ok I understand where your'e coming from, however
either A) You believe there are scum in which case you should adopt my "threaten nuclear winter to get 1 confession" stance
or B) You believe there are no scum in which case WHY THE !@#$ ARE YOU VOTING ME!?!?
THERE IS NO SCENARIO WHICH LYNCHING ME WITHOUT THREATEN THE SCUM WITH NUCLEAR WINTER MAKES SENSE OTHER THAN:
C)Pooky is the only scum in this game, his role is to convince us to nuke each other, he wins if there is nuclear winter, Yosa is completely wanking us
WHICH IS COMPLETE !@#$!@#$ and I recommend you get your head examined if you honestly think this.
How is it in MY interest as SCUM to get the town to threaten to nuclear winter the place?(which is what battlemage is suggesting)
if you adopt my proposed stance of NUclear wintering the place if we dont get a scum confession then 2 things can happen
a)scum confesses and gets lynchified(why the !@#$ would i want this to happen as scum?)
b)scum doesnt confess, we blow the joint to hell, scum loses(why the !@#$ would I want this to happen as scum?)
But BM came up with a reason for b)
it is that
C)I am scum and my scumbuddies are feeling the heat so we are trying to con the town into nuclear wintering the whole place
which doesn't make a lot of sense since it leads to
if I'm scum, then raffles is protown and gets blown to hell, we go to night with 8 alive and 2 scum and when scum kill we are at 2/7 scum which isn't exactly BAD numbers for the scum, in fact it's the normal mini numbers!
But right, according to BM, my scum comrades could possibly be under a lot of heat(even though he has no idea who the hell they are)
and I am working my !@# off trying to get us all to lose in nuclear winter.
this is the most ludicrious game I've played in a while
I'm really really upset again
I'm really sorry for acting like an ass everyone.
It's just that I feel the scum are getting away with poor play because the town is either completely blind or playing like complete crap.
Oh and Lee, are you saying you've never lied as a protown role before and Lynch-all-liars should be blindly applied as a metagame stance?
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"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
-Norwee
"Please refrain from diverting our sleuths out there Pooky."
~Maple
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
-Norwee
"Please refrain from diverting our sleuths out there Pooky."
~Maple
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what do you think about my proposal to extend by launching another fake nuke so we at least know whether raffles is town or not lee?
and also, A,B, or C for earlier?
Mind not blowing off all the objections and reasons I've provided as to why I'm not scum?
Due deligence and all that?
and also, A,B, or C for earlier?
Mind not blowing off all the objections and reasons I've provided as to why I'm not scum?
Due deligence and all that?
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"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
-Norwee
"Please refrain from diverting our sleuths out there Pooky."
~Maple
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
-Norwee
"Please refrain from diverting our sleuths out there Pooky."
~Maple