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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:16 am
by Menalque
Some people think I’m yoinkers
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:17 am
by shellyc
In post 488, Datisi wrote:i agreed with your conclusion (i.e. teacher townlean), i think the way you're getting there is scummy
one of teacher's posts (i think the last one) felt more fence-sitty than taylor's (note that i don't think fence-sitting is scum!indicative)
yet you were attacking taylor but townreadign teacher
can you elaborate
teachers last post shades taylor and alonzo. i dont think thats fence-sitting at all. he also states noraavBM is TvS which is an Opinion
also where did you get the teacher townpings then?
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:17 am
by Menalque
But I just think I’m free
Man I’m just livin my life there’s nothin crazy bout me
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:18 am
by Menalque
In post 475, Datisi wrote:err, what's the logic behind it? just the "burden of proficiency" thing?
Also respond to this from datisi
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:19 am
by shellyc
yes I missed that
menal shading me for my personality (sarcastic behaviour) isn’t a valid train of logic because it’s not AI for me
your actual arguments is that I change stances and go with the flow but sometimes the consensus is correct and we can’t all have Hot Takes
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:19 am
by Datisi
In post 498, shellyc wrote: In post 488, Datisi wrote:"ico please confirm if you're in a pt" and voting him when he continued ignoring you about that felt very much like a rolefish
I want to hear explanations from people and I vote for them to pressure them into giving explanations
is that not valid
nobody said that voting people to pressure them into giving explanations isn't "valid"???
i'm saying the subject that you were pressing on is scummy
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:20 am
by shellyc
oh why am I missing so many things
firstly the BoP thing, secondly menal doesn't really articulate the point of scum!noraa and just says they're playing in a agenda way
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:21 am
by shellyc
I interpreted that as my vote being scummy
you could see it as rolefish but idrt finding out about a neighbourhood is discovering some real amazing PR
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:21 am
by Menalque
That’s really barely saying anything at all.
Yes, sometimes the consensus is correct. That doesn’t give you carte blanche to justify whatever shift of your reads that you like. I want to see what the thought process was behind you deciding that instead of being likely TvS you decided it was likely TvT. I want to know why, after calling me town/townpings several times you immediately came out with “hmmm maybe mena is scum” the second I so much as breathed in your direction.
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:22 am
by Datisi
In post 501, shellyc wrote: In post 488, Datisi wrote:i agreed with your conclusion (i.e. teacher townlean), i think the way you're getting there is scummy
one of teacher's posts (i think the last one) felt more fence-sitty than taylor's (note that i don't think fence-sitting is scum!indicative)
yet you were attacking taylor but townreadign teacher
can you elaborate
teachers last post shades taylor and alonzo. i dont think thats fence-sitting at all. he also states noraavBM is TvS which is an Opinion
also where did you get the teacher townpings then?
i was thinking of the "BM/Noraa does look TvS to me, but Im not really sure what way" line
like level-zero thinking says that's more fence-sitty than taylor saying bm/noraa are t/t and i'm curious if you think fence-sitting is scummy why don't you think teacher is scummy
also Gut(tm)
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:22 am
by Menalque
In post 504, shellyc wrote:menal shading me for my personality (sarcastic behaviour) isn’t a valid train of logic because it’s not AI for me
Just because something is part of someone’s behaviour also doesn’t make that not dubious in a game context. If someone is a compulsive liar as part of their RL personality and they compulsively lie in game, that doesn’t make their continuous lying less scummy. Scum tactic is a scum tactic
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:24 am
by Datisi
In post 470, Datisi wrote:@shelly, don't think i get it? like is your logic that scum!taylor sees a tvt shitfight but she's afraid of stepping in so she truthfully calls it tvt?
shelly i think you missed this too (response to
429 i think)
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:24 am
by Menalque
In post 506, shellyc wrote:secondly menal doesn't really articulate the point of scum!noraa and just says they're playing in a agenda way
Where did I say this
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:25 am
by shellyc
In post 508, Menalque wrote:Yes, sometimes the consensus is correct. That doesn’t give you carte blanche to justify whatever shift of your reads that you like. I want to see what the thought process was behind you deciding that instead of being likely TvS you decided it was likely TvT. I want to know why, after calling me town/townpings several times you immediately came out with “hmmm maybe mena is scum” the second I so much as breathed in your direction.
Ok I reread things. I also reconsider things.
At first glance noraavsBM looked TvS because it kinda felt like noraas scumgame but noraa is consistently LHF so I was reconsidering + man ico is charismatic
the hmmm maybe menal is scum thing was also slightly exagerrated and the way you deflect that back onto me feels like youre shading me instead of trying to sort me. which is +scumpoints
i'll elaborate tomorrow but i need sleep now
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:25 am
by Menalque
In post 458, Menalque wrote: In post 451, shellyc wrote:Note to self do not reconsider my reads or change my stances ever again.
Note to self do not townread people.
also how am I pocketing you if I now think you're scum
That’s... not what was said? There’s nothing wrong with changing stances/reads nor did I say there was. But there needs to be evidence of a thought process there to back that up and I don’t see it with you, I just see you changing your reads to suit the situation.
I also think you nisunderstanding what I’m saying in a hyperbolic way is scummy fwiw
All of your initial posting is about how I’m townpinging you or towny for this or that, agreeing with my takes etc. Then the moment I start putting pressure on you suddenly all that vanishes and I’m prob!scum?
Also respond to the rest of this. You cherrypicked the part about you being hyperbolic to avoid responding to the other reasons why I think you’re scum.
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:26 am
by shellyc
In post 511, Datisi wrote:shelly i think you missed this too (response to 429 i think)
taylor could be scum with someone of {BM, Noraa} not ruling out TvS just yet
besides whats scum motivation for taylor to step into a tvt shitfight, they can just hang out in the shadows
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:27 am
by shellyc
In post 514, Menalque wrote: In post 458, Menalque wrote: In post 451, shellyc wrote:Note to self do not reconsider my reads or change my stances ever again.
Note to self do not townread people.
also how am I pocketing you if I now think you're scum
That’s... not what was said? There’s nothing wrong with changing stances/reads nor did I say there was. But there needs to be evidence of a thought process there to back that up and I don’t see it with you, I just see you changing your reads to suit the situation.
I also think you nisunderstanding what I’m saying in a hyperbolic way is scummy fwiw
All of your initial posting is about how I’m townpinging you or towny for this or that, agreeing with my takes etc. Then the moment I start putting pressure on you suddenly all that vanishes and I’m prob!scum?
Also respond to the rest of this. You cherrypicked the part about you being hyperbolic to avoid responding to the other reasons why I think you’re scum.
like im overdefensive of myself + play very bad under pressure so i think i just triggered that again
yeah you're townpinging because the Voices of my Gut deem you town but im trying to re-evaluate
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:28 am
by Menalque
@513 okay where are the posts that you reread that made you reconsider? Should be pretty easy to find if it’s true!
I’m not trying to shade you, I’m outright calling you scum and saying I think you need to die today. I’m talking to you to give you an opportunity to show me I’m wrong in the case that you’re town. So far you’re being avoidant and dodging questions which is not doing anything to make me doubt my SR on you
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:28 am
by Noraa
Holy fuck how many pages did I miss?
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:29 am
by Datisi
In post 506, shellyc wrote:oh why am I missing so many things
firstly the BoP thing, secondly menal doesn't really articulate the point of scum!noraa and just says they're playing in a agenda way
wasn't the point about "menal not articulating about scum!noraa" during the time you were calling him town?
In post 507, shellyc wrote:
I interpreted that as my vote being scummy
you could see it as rolefish but idrt finding out about a neighbourhood is discovering some real amazing PR
the vote itself is like nai
sure, "only" a hood not so much, but (1) there might be other PRs as neighbours and (2) pushing ico kinda feels like feeding into the idea of the hood being t/s
pedits are not being read
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:29 am
by Menalque
In post 516, shellyc wrote:like
im overdefensive of myself + play very bad under pressure
so i think i just triggered that again
yeah you're townpinging because the Voices of my Gut deem you town but im trying to re-evaluate
I don’t remember this but I’ll reread your towngame again
I do think that as scum you’re pretty capable under pressure as seen in the two games where you beat ducky
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:30 am
by Menalque
Like 10 or something
Whats your read on shelly?
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:31 am
by Datisi
In post 515, shellyc wrote: In post 511, Datisi wrote:shelly i think you missed this too (response to 429 i think)
taylor could be scum with someone of {BM, Noraa} not ruling out TvS just yet
besides whats scum motivation for taylor to step into a tvt shitfight, they can just hang out in the shadows
i mean the scum!motivation for egging on a tvt fight is pretty simple lol, keep the idiots tunneled at eachother
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:31 am
by shellyc
mental note to reply to that tomorrow
now bye i need sleep
also in the games with ducky, it's quite notable that almost 0 votes were placed on me.
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:32 am
by Menalque
Okay sleep well, I will be chasing you up for answers next time you’re online