Mini 736 - The Masonry Game Over!
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- RestFermata
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Set-up
1 Mafia Infiltrator
- Can join multiple mason groups1 Mafia Contact
- Contact for the Agent1 Mafia Agent
- Unknown to Mafia until they find Mafia Contact1 Suicide Cult Leader (Twilight) - Appears as a normal mason recruiter, but can decide to kill his fellow masons and has the SK win con.
2 Mason Recruiters (1 Red Dawn, 1 Bad Moon)
2 Secret Society members (Black Sun)
- Daytalking group, does not prevent them from being recruited into a masonry2 Secret Society members (Black Sun)
1 Chosen One
- Upon being recruited into a masonry, becomes confirmed town3 Townies
Notes:
Kill flavour for the mafia and the serial killer are indistinguishable.
Players
(With the exception of the Infiltrator)
can only be part of one masonry group and must join the first mason group that recruits them.Any mason groups a player was a part of are revealed on death by name.
Roles
1. Sebguer replaces PookyTheMagicalBear D1 -
Mafia Infiltrator
12. Caboose -
Mafia Contact
7. alcove -
Mafia Agent
6. Jahudo replaces skitzer D2 - Suicide Cult Leader
3. Reecer6 -
Mason Recruiters Red Dawn
10. RestFermata -
Mason Recruiters Bad Moon
2. Max -
Townie
4. zwetschenwasser -
Townie
5. Juls -
Townie
8. Empking -
Chosen One
11. Nightfall -
Secret Society member
9. rokovoj replaces Sipylus D1 -
Secret Society member
Roles
[area="Secret Society Member Role PM (Nightfall & rokovoj)]You are a
Secret Society Member.
You are a member of the Town faction. In addition, you are also a member of the Black Sun society. XXX is also a member of the Black Sun society.Abilities:
None - You have no personal abilities.
Alignment Powers
Black Sun society abilities:
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Black Sun chat
(Passive)
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Rigorous Screening
(Passive)
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Secret Order
(Passive)
You win when all factions that require the town dead have been killed and at least one member of the town survives.[/area]
D1 - Empking lynched
Caboose (Kill) -> rokovoj
alcove (Search) -> rokovoj (Failed)
Reecer6 (Recruit) -> zwetschenwasser
RestFermata (Recruit) -> Sebguer
skitzer (Recruit) -> Nightfall
D2 - Reecer6 lynched
Caboose (Kill) -> Nightfall
alcove (Search) -> Nightfall (Failed)
RestFermata (Recruit) -> Nightfall (Failed)
Jahudo (Recruit) -> RestFermata (Failed)
D3 - zwetschenwasser lynched
Sebguer (Kill) -> Juls
alcove (Search) -> Jahudo (Failed)
RestFermata (Recruit) -> Juls
Jahudo (Recruit) -> Juls
Only Sebguer was in a masonry.
Even assuming everything went right for you, Rest recruited another mafia member and the mafia didn't target you, you would have ended up with an endgame of 1 mafia not in a masonry and you, which would have ended in your death.
If two of them had been in masonries yes, there would have been the possibility of killing them all and ending in scorched earth, but as it stands that was impossible to achieve.
Even assuming everything went right for you, Rest recruited another mafia member and the mafia didn't target you, you would have ended up with an endgame of 1 mafia not in a masonry and you, which would have ended in your death.
If two of them had been in masonries yes, there would have been the possibility of killing them all and ending in scorched earth, but as it stands that was impossible to achieve.
- zwetschenwasser
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zwetschenwasser
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This game rolled out with pretty much the best case scenario for the mafia team, managing to kill all 3 confirmable town roles by night 2.
The mason groups, after getting full recruits day one, managed to not get any further recruits throughout the rest of the game, especially Jahudo, who could have turned things around if he was able to redirect a kill onto one of the mafia.
Biggest regrets would have to be not including a generic mason recruiter PM in the first post, which would have cleared some things up, and also not dividing the night up, making actions resolve before the night ended so new recruits could talk on the same night they were recruited.
The mason groups, after getting full recruits day one, managed to not get any further recruits throughout the rest of the game, especially Jahudo, who could have turned things around if he was able to redirect a kill onto one of the mafia.
Biggest regrets would have to be not including a generic mason recruiter PM in the first post, which would have cleared some things up, and also not dividing the night up, making actions resolve before the night ended so new recruits could talk on the same night they were recruited.
Actually, it's just occurred to me that there is a one tiny chance you could have still won.Jahudo wrote:Why did the game end? I thought I still had a move. Seb was in a masonry and I could have killed him. Though I'm not sure how that could change the end result, but I assumed the all the scum were masons to begin with.
If you and Rest recruited the remaining two mafia members, the mafia killed Max, lynched rest, then tried to kill you with a mafia member that you didn't recruit, and you targeted another member, that would leave you in a 1:1 endgame which would have resulted in victory for you. I didn't even consider this until now and it's a rather unlikely outcome, but I hope you don't feel cheated by me prematurely ending it.
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I hadn't thought of that. I didn't know if there was another masonry so I wasn't thinking in that direction.Darox wrote:If you and Rest recruited the remaining two mafia members, the mafia killed Max, lynched rest, then tried to kill you with a mafia member that you didn't recruit, and you targeted another member, that would leave you in a 1:1 endgame which would have resulted in victory for you. I didn't even consider this until now and it's a rather unlikely outcome, but I hope you don't feel cheated by me prematurely ending it.
I think we all fell into the mafia's hands of accepting easy lynches and we are all guilty of that (though i was happy killing town ).
We got too complacent saying Y is responsible for X's quick lynch, get him! Wait, Z is responsible for Y's quick lynch. get him too! without looking at the other hoppers.
Awwww....I was recruited for my hatred of zwets....but died instead.
I had tunnelvision but FFS, zwets you gotta play better as town...you were so friggin scummy!!!!! I had suspicions of alcove and he was who I was going for the next day...wouldn't have mattered though. The way he jumped on and off zwets bandwagon was very very scummy. I didn't want to mention it though because I wanted zwets lynched.
I really just couldn't get into this game. It was too quiet. My guess is because everyone except me (and Max) could talk in the masonry's and I was bored.
I had tunnelvision but FFS, zwets you gotta play better as town...you were so friggin scummy!!!!! I had suspicions of alcove and he was who I was going for the next day...wouldn't have mattered though. The way he jumped on and off zwets bandwagon was very very scummy. I didn't want to mention it though because I wanted zwets lynched.
I really just couldn't get into this game. It was too quiet. My guess is because everyone except me (and Max) could talk in the masonry's and I was bored.
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rokovoj I missed you... for the one additional day that I was alive... lol
I must give credit to Caboose. When I died I had thoughts that Sebguer and alcove could have been scum, but I thought Caboose was town.
And go figure, he was the one who killed me lol.
I must give credit to Caboose. When I died I had thoughts that Sebguer and alcove could have been scum, but I thought Caboose was town.
And go figure, he was the one who killed me lol.
Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...
My "Scumtell" in the beginning of the game was not really a scum tell, in that I would have done the same as town... Not rest's comment in her chat that I would list pros and cons without deciding, that was legitimately me being undecided (I mean, I was uninformed scum) and also how I play as town. I can't help it, I second-guess myself a lot and prefer to just display the whole thought process for other people to draw conclusions from.
My behavior with the mylo thing, however, was definitely a scum-tell and I was kicking myself the entire time about it. It was just a stupid, stupid, very scummy move on my part.
Of course at the time I THOUGHT my buddies had picked up on my breadcrumbs, in fact I was almost positive of it, and I assumed that was why people were defending me... Course that was wrong, my buddies did defend me but had no clue who I was...
In general I've discovered I prefer being clueless scum to clueless town. It's so nice to be able to quietly cheer in the back of my head over every kill, instead of feeling frustrated.
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Now for quicktopic posts.
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Black Sun Society sure enjoyed leaving breadcrumbs. O_O
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Good game guys.
My behavior with the mylo thing, however, was definitely a scum-tell and I was kicking myself the entire time about it. It was just a stupid, stupid, very scummy move on my part.
Of course at the time I THOUGHT my buddies had picked up on my breadcrumbs, in fact I was almost positive of it, and I assumed that was why people were defending me... Course that was wrong, my buddies did defend me but had no clue who I was...
In general I've discovered I prefer being clueless scum to clueless town. It's so nice to be able to quietly cheer in the back of my head over every kill, instead of feeling frustrated.
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Aw, thanks.rokovoj wrote:Good game guys. Was pretty impressed by alcove's move yesterday.
I'd like to argue that the one who stated this downwards slide for town was Empking. His attack on you made no sense whatsoever.RestFermata wrote:Maybe Empking was right that I handed the game to the scum :/
Now for quicktopic posts.
...I. I can't even respond to that, honestly. (THE FIRST POST TT___TT)Caboose wrote:Well, just be on the lookout for the agent.
=DRF isn't one of the unlynchables. [bShe's really treading in perilous waters with her crap attack of alcove.[/b] We can get RF lynched tomorrow. I think we need to get rid of one of the unlynchables...
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Black Sun Society sure enjoyed leaving breadcrumbs. O_O
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Good game guys.
none of them. you made them impossibly obscure. But reading your quicktopic and then going back and seeing how you deliberately misspelled "today" was fun =D
Black Sun Society was totally the coolest faction, except maybe that suicide cult... OH RIGHT. AND THE SECRET AGENTS. BUT THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING. =DDD
Black Sun Society was totally the coolest faction, except maybe that suicide cult... OH RIGHT. AND THE SECRET AGENTS. BUT THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING. =DDD