Was asking VD not you. But while we are on the subject of you and reads...you light called me scum but needed me to post more which is a fence sit, you called NK15 town on gut and said that tako's post was gross and voted him. Do you have any of your own thoughts or anything based on actual events of this game?
it seems like most setups are low powered setups. Personally, I think town does need a significant amount of power but otherwise, I don't really care about the setup. My frowny face was about the ridiculousness of there being 3 scum in a 16 player. If this were a thing then I think the mod is screwing over the scum team. Only way a 3 scum makes sense to me is if there was a SK.
In post 537, over90 wrote:Gamma, do you have any solid towns? Except Carcalilly
Italiano
explain both reads please?
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 10:35 am
by Nero Cain
You guys need to stop watching real housewives of random city b/c not everything is shade and I don't think the term translates very well. Expressing suspicion on someone is not shade. Shade can only come from scum that's trying to cast doubt on someone.
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 10:41 am
by DeasVail
In post 517, ItalianoVD wrote:My vote doesn’t change. Let’s not make the mistake of letting scum!Nero slip through our fingers!
This feels incredibly exaggerated
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 10:45 am
by ItalianoVD
There's a lot to unpack here. Geez, lol. First, Gamma's vote was a real vote? That's news to me, I had no idea. I thought it was RVS and he was saying what's up. Gamma can confirm, but if so it doesn't change my read on him. Town!Gamma should be scumreading me, if he doesn't that actually makes me more suspicious.
The one major thing about your post that doesn't make sense to me is how you arrive at lhf Nero, given the several scumlean posts you had.
in a not so surprising note, I don't really like him that much.
Didn't really like his soft defense of me in VOTE: 48 and I think his thought that there could be 3 scum is laughable. Would be funny if he was scum that slipped that his team was 3 wich means there'd be a traitor and guy true claimed his traitor role.
Why go for funny? Is this something you believe or not?
In post 101, KittyTacky wrote:Yeah I don't feel this Nero is particularly similar to his town play.
In post 102, KittyTacky wrote:I won't vote him so early, but I'll scrutinize his posts more.
in a not so surprising note, I don't really like him that much.
Didn't really like his soft defense of me in VOTE: 48 and I think his thought that there could be 3 scum is laughable. Would be funny if he was scum that slipped that his team was 3 wich means there'd be a traitor and guy true claimed his traitor role.
scum!nero thinks everything is amusing. And yet more shade.
...ain't it.
So yeah you are SCUM!! You die today!
Interesting post, but all based on meta without backing it up.
pretty sure this is untrue. I mean true, I don't yell I'm town ad nausem but the idea that I don't call myself town as town is ludicrous and I don't think you actually believe this.
I feel like accusing someone of "shade" has prob lost its meaning these days. I and others are accused of "shade" all the time when it's just scumhunting. In this particular case, it was more of a cheeky comment b/c the how many scum are in a particular setup is or should be pretty easy to discern. Now over90 might actually be new and not an alt so I don't hold it against him but hamma's 3 in a 16 is
no, I am not. What makes you think the leading poster is being lazy? "zzzzzzzz" is something I post when I think things are boring. For someone that claims to know me, it sure is odd that you didn't know that.
I think Italiano looks like scum looking for an easy mislim(Nero). Their case is built on sand, and not in a way I'd expect from a wrong town. It is just too wrong.
How you end up where you end up for Nero is very strange.
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 10:45 am
by ItalianoVD
Also when has Nero ever been lhf?
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 10:53 am
by Nero Cain
Why r u town reading gamma? Why should town Gamma scum read you?
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 11:28 am
by ItalianoVD
Why do you keep asking questions I already answer expecting a different one?
In post 557, ItalianoVD wrote:Why do you keep asking questions I already answer expecting a different one?
I don't remember you really talking about why Gamma is town. I know you said something about you light town reading him but nothing preventing you from hard town reading him so you moved him up but I don't remember you giving out the reasons for your town read in the first place.
likewise don't remember you talking about why gamma town should scum read you. He's also not scum reading you and you aren't reacting to that.
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 11:37 am
by RCEnigma
Here i'll try. Why should town!Gamma be scumreading you d1 Italiano? And why does Gamma townreading you right now still make Gamma town from your pov?
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 11:40 am
by over90
Enchant, I really need your updated opinion about nk15, italiano and maybe someone else... And I need to understand your reasons. Please help me with that
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 11:53 am
by Nero Cain
In post 513, ItalianoVD wrote:I was weakly townreading Gamma just because. I had to ask myself if there is anything that is making it weak and there really wasn't so I moved him up to medium townlean. I'm always hesitant to fully townread Gamma but most of the time I just choose to do so and hope I'm right. It feels like that here.
As far as I can tell this is the most you've talked about him and "im town reading him just because" isn't great reasoning so I think my question is plenty valid. Still interested in why he should be scumreading you and why you aren't reacting to his town read of you.
btw, i consider nk15 is a scum right now, so your unvoting looks suspicious. Especially when ppl around us consider last activity of nk15 as very bad, like his voting for tako before that. Nk15 is your susp, but you are the only one who unvoted him for his strange actions with no explanation. you should talk about that, not remain silent
he prepared a huge post, then he create a conclusion after this "analysis"... but when he has talked with me in short fast dialog under this post, it appeared that there was a typo, and new conclusion was with huge logical problems, and when i pointed on that - he just dissappeared, he doesnt know what to say i his defense
and then you are unvoting him like nothing bad happened, moreover nk15 becomes more townie for you with no good reason - how is it possible? explain
It's not that he should it's that if I feel there isn't an attempt to sort me truthfully or just lazily throws out a townread it pings my radar. If I'm scumread me for fair reasons then what can I do, but try to be better.
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 12:05 pm
by Nero Cain
Gamma said that you felt "off" but then landed on a town read for ???? reasons. If you felt like he wasn't trying to sort you why do you have him so up high in your town list?
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 12:59 pm
by ItalianoVD
In post 567, Nero Cain wrote:If you felt like he wasn't trying to sort you why do you have him so up high in your town list?
In post 150, Nero Cain wrote:just making sure. Your play just seems so different. Not sure if that's an alt thing or an alignment thing.
Well Rathe is a complete antithesis to how I truly play, but the foundation has always remained the same.
What does that mean?
Anyone who has played against Rathe knows what that means. What I mean by antithesis is self explanatory. If you've played with both accounts you know there are major differences. Anyone who wants to talk more in depth about it just pm me.
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 5:34 pm
by ItalianoVD
In post 567, Nero Cain wrote:Gamma said that you felt "off" but then landed on a town read for ???? reasons.
Bosco's question was very lamist at the time. Although i do think new scum are likely to make a post like that in rvs I backed off when i checked that was although they had signed up for a newbie game this was their first game on site -- so it got a pass for the time being.
other things I want to speak about are:
1) I think your scumteam is a weird place to land with my slot especially. Like writing off my pushback against Italiano's case as a strawman when I gave evidence that poked holes in it from the beginning is disingenuous. Considering you also agree that the case is not concrete and probably on town. though ive only really come around to nero!town recently.
B) That your scumteam are majority slots carrying the thread in terms of readable content yet the VC's look the way they do with all of the major wagons that have stalled out being on town from your pov. That just doesnt line up.
3) The funky Gamma progression, it seems like you read gamma negatively up until they tell me how to snip OOG quotes -- which is helpful but not in game terms. I fail to see how that would flip a read in any case so maybe there is more to it.
D) you did remind me the other issue I had with carca's posting which was the rolefishing, with my slot is the one that sticks out but I think there was another instance this happened. I remember making mental notes that it was something to keep a tab on but, goldfish memory.
Also the ignoring my question in 87 but its not super important.
Why mix letters and numbers?
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 6:44 pm
by KittyTacky
In post 551, Nero Cain wrote:I think this is the first time I've been called LHF lol
Was asking VD not you. But while we are on the subject of you and reads...you light called me scum but needed me to post more which is a fence sit, you called NK15 town on gut and said that tako's post was gross and voted him. Do you have any of your own thoughts or anything based on actual events of this game?
You played with me before, you know how I play, early on I just kinda flop around before doing things when the game "clicks" for me. But yes I do. I'll need to give this gamestate a good think-over and/or a re-read, maybe later today.
it seems like most setups are low powered setups. Personally, I think town does need a significant amount of power but otherwise, I don't really care about the setup. My frowny face was about the ridiculousness of there being 3 scum in a 16 player. If this were a thing then I think the mod is screwing over the scum team. Only way a 3 scum makes sense to me is if there was a SK.
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