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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:25 am
by Titus
In post 568, yessiree wrote:umm rope NS tomorrow
That means lynch NS I'm assuming.

Are the lynched players allowed to talk in Twilight or is that a "Bah!" post?

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:43 am
by Titus
Hello, that's a serious question? I'd like to talk to Yessiree but I don't want to violate the rules or have him do that inadvertently.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:50 am
by DoctorPepper
He can talk until the flip

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:53 am
by yessiree
Talk to me Titus, or we can chat

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:55 am
by yessiree
Umm I don't have long, Nexus can be here any second to take my life

no walls, bullet points

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:58 am
by Titus
Yeah, that's the idea.

Considering you're dead, would you mind putting together a last will of reads? I know you might be off any second, so don't worry about making each read its own post. The more information the town has the better.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:00 am
by Titus
Also, no one argue with Yessiree's reads. We can debate them tomorrow unless there's an obvious typo or inconsistency (i.e. everyone on his train MUST be scum is obviously wrong because that would require 5 scums). I want Yessiree to be able to say his piece here without fear of judgment.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:02 am
by yessiree
only townreads I have is bacde, JKM, Titus, and doctorpepper

everyone is scummy or herpalurking

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:05 am
by Titus
You have both me and Dr. Pepper as town reads. That's surprising. Can you elaborate on that, now that your initial read is submitted for all to see?

Also, what do you mean by hepalurking?

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:06 am
by yessiree
Also I stayed at L-1 for a week

post #384 was fake to test reactions

there is at least 1 scum riding on that wagon, this I'm sure

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:07 am
by Titus
In post 384, yessiree wrote:Okay, so far four people have voted on me

JKMatthews, CDB, NS, Pebro

These people are confirmed town on my list

Why?

Because if you still don't want me dead after my sketchy as fuck random shit, you don't want to win as town. If you see scrubby shit like yessiree, as a town player, you fucking jump on his wagon and tell him to GTFO.

Only scums imo would be willing to let this wacky shit continue, because they think I'll make an easy wagon on any day. So they are saving this easy wagon for later.
This is post 384. Yessiree stated he faked this post to test reactions.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:08 am
by yessiree
yeah I have townreads on you and DoctorPepper. I think you guys are arguing over silly, minute details that isn't really gonna benefit the town in terms of scum-hunting. Try to broaden your view on the entire playing field, I think you both can do much better.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:12 am
by Titus
You've stated that you think someone on your train is scum.

Yessiree (5 - Not in order) - Channeldelibird, Nobody Special, Pebro, Bacade, JKM

You've also stated town reads on Bacde and JKM.

So that means you think one of Channeldelibird, Nobody's Special and Pebro are likely scum. If I am wrong, please correct me. I'm not stating my opinions here. I'm just trying to help display your thoughts.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:16 am
by DoctorPepper
Yes, im going to tell you right now, in the game of mafia, where scum usually have self-censors to stop them from saying things that could be considered as scummy, sometimes looking for little details, little flaws in logic and slips is one was to find them.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:22 am
by Nexus
Votecount 1.12:


Yessiree (5-LYNCH) -
Channeldelibird, Pebro, Bacde, JKMatthews, Nobody Special
DoctorPepper (2) -
Titus, Bicephalous Bob
Nobody Special (1) -
Yessiree
Titus (1)-
DoctorPepper

Not voting (0) -


Day 1 will end at 11pm BST on Friday 28th June.

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.


Yessiree - Vanilla Townie - Lynched Day 1


Night 1 has now fallen. It will end in 72 hours, at 5pm BST on Friday 28th June 2013

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:58 am
by Nexus
No-one died Night 1!


Day 2 now begins. With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline is at 6pm BST on 12th July 2013.

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:02 am
by DoctorPepper
Lets get things back on track, shall we?

What does everyone think of these issues?
- Me and Titus
- the IC not dying by day 2 in a newbie game
- the fact that no one died last night
- Bob and Titus' slip

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:13 am
by Bacde
hey hey hey whats up guys what do you think of no one dying

I think its pretty sweet

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:14 am
by DoctorPepper
^ this kinda hits me with the "scum talking about the failed nightkill" vibe

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:15 am
by DoctorPepper
Something about Bacde's reaction can go with that or classic Bacde trolling

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:22 am
by Titus
Here's what I think. NS's behavior was totally suspicious at the end of the day. He said he was given the hammer due to the permissions of the town. However, when you are given a hammer you are given trust not to cut short an investigation. Here, Channel hadn't even posted since I replaced in. How could it be appropriate to hammer under those circumstances? When some were expressing doubt as to Yessiree's guilt? I can understand a newbie doing this, but someone with enough experience to host games on this site? That would indicate someone who plays very frequently and shouldn't be in a rush to cut the day short.

Does anyone have a roleblocked claim? It would help determine what scum are in the game if someone was roleblocked.

Now, I'm going to answer Dr. Pepper's questions.

1) I'm me. As for Dr. Pepper, I find it odd he completely glosses over how day 1 ended. It's as if he wouldn't want us discussing that at all. NS's behavior was scummy. No doubt about that. There is almost certainly mafia on Yessiree's train. Does he really not want us discussing that? Was it because he's protecting NS?

2) IC not dying by Day 2. Are you supposing that the mafia targeted the IC? Where do you get that assumption? Did you target him? The IC is experienced but is just a player like anyone else. There's no particular reason the IC must die.

3) The fact no one died last night leaves four possible scenarios. 1) Doctor healed the attacked person. 2) Attacked person was bulletproof. 3) Mafia decided not to kill anyone ("a no kill"). 4) Major host error. I'm going to suppose the only realistic options are one and two. While the last are possible, their odds are very unlikely.

4) Again, you are trying to suggest that Bob and I slipped when no such thing occurred. You do this while totally ignoring how day 1 ended. This is bad gameplay at best.

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:29 am
by DoctorPepper
Dafuq is this misrep?

I will not explain why it would have been okay for me to hammer cause I've done it a shit ton times already

How was I protecting NS?? And when did I stop you from discussing that! Did I tape your fingers to the table so you wouldnt type your opinions?

Besides, in a newbie game, newb scum tend to think the IC is some all powerful scum hunting God, so he usually dies first. IC not dying indicates scum with some experience.

Major host error? Why need to mention that? Do you think one occurred?

We have 4 possible leads.
1) doctor protected target
2) jailkeepr jailed a target or a perpetrator
3) Bulletproof was shot
4) No kill

If the first three did happen, do not claim.

Bad gameplay? What does this have to do with day 1?

Yep, guys Im going back to Titus for scum 2013

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:30 am
by DoctorPepper
BTW, CDB is totally posting on other forums but not this one.

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:33 am
by ChannelDelibird
Hi guys.

I really regret my approach to the end of that day. Having had my head caught up in a couple of other games, I started to think that yessiree was probably actually town after all but I was rather just hoping that we'd hurry up and lynch him so we could get a couple of flips to better inform my reads and come back refreshed on Day 2. The lack of kill doesn't actually do an awful lot of good for me but at least we've ended that really quite long Day 1. Sorry, yessiree, if you're reading - I should have tried harder to get a different result.

I've reread the end of Day 1 but I think I will soon go back and reread the start, because that may prove more useful in the long run. Here's where I am at the moment, though:

I think DoctorPepper is scummier than Titus and think he's the best vote for now. I definitely didn't agree that Titus "slipped" and I got the feeling, reading back, that DocPep was trying to bully through a lynch on flimsy reasoning. I didn't really believe that he believed what he was saying.

Bob's vote on DoctorPepper looks unlikely to be that of a scumbuddy - but if DocPep ends up town, I might come back to it.

I think Bacde is very very likely town and Pebro is probably town. I will reevaluate my previous NS townread as I reread the start of Day 1.

For now, VOTE: DoctorPepper.

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:37 am
by ChannelDelibird
I'll elaborate on my Bacde townread as DocPep is pointing at him being scum (despite already claiming to "know" who the two scum are): As well as general townvibes from earlier in Day 1, I felt that Bacde's behaviour around yessiree in the latter stages of Yesterday accurately reflected how I felt and should have posted had my head been more in the game. It seemed natural and to come at the right time; i.e. not forced.